I know you're trying to be fancy here but this boils down to vote selling. That typically doesn't fly here. Could lead to downvotes in the worst case scenario. You need to know that. And so does everyone else.
And the way voting power works, and with your limited HP, there simply won't be enough to go around. Seemingly, people would be paying for almost nothing, that trickles in over time. A lot of time. Meanwhile all the HP generated in this fashion is YOURS; thousands of dollars worth. HDT has no value, you're simply putting a price on it, then converting those proceeds into HP, then using that HP to vote. You keep the HP and there isn't enough votes to go around to make this worthwhile, yet the votes are your main selling point and what seems to be attracting the interest of the consumer and their money, which gets funneled into you wallet.
I know how the system works here. This does not come across as a fair deal in my mind. And again, exchanging money for votes was eliminated long ago, with downvotes, because selling votes turned into a disaster. It's not worth trying again.
$500 for 6 votes per week at 50% voting power? From accounts that don't even have as much HP as me? Can someone explain how that makes sense?
Don't take it personally, though I understand you're disappointed. Your integrity remains intact. Your reputation remains intact. The project had serious flaws. Not you. If you ever need help with something or have a question, feel free to ask. If I can't answer I'll find someone who can.
It's not the end of the world and I believe what you're saying about bouncing back.
I insist though, just as I had suggested several times previously, next time you come up with something, offer the details, all of them, from the start. This one was dependent on vote selling. Votes are free. $500 for 6 votes per week. That's debt. Those votes are worthless.
Who would pay their boss then go to work to get their money back... ?
You're right, I was wrong a lot, I will work hard to reprove a similar project but with votes that will arrive in a meritocratic way and above all I will try to fix the whole project well which will be announced with all the details in the first post without a turn of words, but first I'll let some other user see it.
Sorry for the past few days, I behaved like one of those users I've always fought against here on HIVE!
Vote selling almost destroyed this place long ago. People fought to get rid of it. I was one of them. Some new code was eventually introduced in a hardfork that included these downvotes in their current form and from there that problem was solved. So now when it comes to vote selling, the downvotes are there to act as a deterrent. Shouldn't have to be used but will be used when necessary. That's where we stand and that's where we've stood for a long time.
About the past few days, these conversations are never easy but I'm always fully prepared for some kind of chaos. I don't take it personally. It's all good. That's life. You weren't even that bad. Just frustrated. I get it.
Yes in fact I was wrong , unfortunately the ideas and enthusiasm clouded my mind.... I apologize to all of you once again and especially to you who were trying to enlighten my head a few days ago!
I really hope that you are able to make a great project mate, but vote selling really isn't the way to go about it. There is a very long history of it here and it took a long time and a lot of effort to get rid of it, as it was strangling the community.
Oh yes it is... the account touting all this was created May 2020. That's post STEEM divorce, and long post the bot days. It's nothing new and we don't want it back.
And now you tell me there will be even less HP backing those votes that are already weak when you say there will be powerdowns.
Have you thought about a different approach that doesn't involve selling votes? Does this entire operation depend on selling votes?
I am wide awake. I noticed you're only releasing one puzzle piece at a time when it comes to offering all the details. I had suggested in our previous conversation you lay it all out on the table for everyone to see.
The people who buy votes in this manner will get downvoted and make no ROI. They may even make negative ROI as the downvotes will cost them reputation and earnings.
You on the other hand will walk away with much profit
It's up to people what they do but selling votes even in disguise doesn't work here
Sorry , I made a mistake , I put my face on it , I will come back with a new project where I will not assure votes or anything else...
I apologize again , I would have liked to have had a little more time to be able to talk about my plan but whatever , I would have gone to split all the HP earnings to the top holders and make them earn from the votes , but I can't say that in the end I went against the rules of HIVE , just one thing next time let's talk first and then act , not that you destroy me hours of work in 10 seconds , just this because I from now until the release of a new project I will be with sto weight of having let down a community because I didn't have time to make up for it
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I think in future you have to think long and hard about projects on Hive and in particular learn from the lessons of the past. There are a lot of us here with bitter memories of how vote buying/trading/selling schemes almost destroyed the platform we love and call home.
When someone puts forth a scheme which says send me money and I will send you votes even if it is in a roundabout way then it sets alarm bells ringing. We don't want to go backward like that. This is why we have free downvotes and this is why those with stake tend to use them
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Wait, I have not finished writing all the things and you are already attacking me ... I do not understand nothing has started yet, I will return 95% of the rewards from the sale of HIVE, and the votes will be the extra income .. .
I would have announced it in another post if you could give me some time
Yes, let's say that my idea was not to sell votes, I know that ethically it is not right and I have always co-battled this thing, there was no bad faith in doing this project of course, my only goal was to sell tokens and give in exchange first of all the votes which should not have been dosed as I did but had to be given in a meritocratic way to users, while as I did it seems that those who have more money earn more, but then I would have gone to give everyone back with the powerdown the HIVE, however I will redo the HDT project by changing their name and dedicating more attention to details, I will certainly eliminate the fixed votes, a question instead, can I do something similar to the table I did for the votes for dividends?
We want you project and your dividend token and you can also payout what you want with powerdowns.
Just dont promise users votes for hodling your token.
Dont throw away your project/name, its not done or gone :D Just change the voting part
The fact 'Hive' was used in the project name makes me cringe.
That's hijacking brand recognition/reputation. Part of the reason why many inexperienced members didn't question the project and accepted it a face value could be because they thought it was coming from "Head Office", even though there is no "Head Office."
Never wise to hijack a name. Much better to build your own brand and reputation. Quite beneficial too, in the long run.
No @ pgm-curator is like that because we offer a lot of AHA services, as sending so many tokens the message is cumbersome let's say, from what I understand on HIVE there is no other token that sends so many tokens with the command! PGM , but @ pgm-curator has a totally different format, those who delegate only receive HIVE back and then we add the pools like PGM and THG which are tokens to thank the community that supports the project, while the votes are sent by a user who takes care the posts manually in fact very often we skip a few posts, they pay $ 0.10 in PGM which are then burned, but PGM can be accumulated in 10 thousand ways
Thanks for the explanations 😎
Please count me in the contest, reblogged
I tag @invest-time who seems interested in the project too
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Ero più che curioso di leggere il tuo post per capire tutte le novità in arrivo, e se era già presente una data di inizio, poiché ammetto che ero piuttosto incuriosito ed interessato a questa novità, che speravo potesse avere lo stesso successo del tuo precedente progetto legato al mondo che ruota intorno al tuo token PGM.
Purtroppo, però, dopo aver letto il post, ho anche notato una discreta mole di downvote che hanno preso di mira il tuo articolo, ma, soprattutto, letto parecchi commenti, piuttosto spiacevoli, che sembrano voler letteralmente massacrare il progetto considerandolo contro le regole.
Ammetto, in tutta onestà, di non poter dire la mia con la dovuta cognizione di causa, e conoscendoti dubito che, se anche vi fosse qualcosa che realmente non tornasse per quanto riguarda alcune regole di questo mondo, tu possa averlo fatto intenzionalmente, e sono, al contrario, convinto che tu stessi cercando di creare un ulteriore opportunità dopo quella che hai fornito a tutti noi, ma ammetto, nello stesso tempo, che dopo questo putiferio, sono un po' preoccupato e dubbioso.
Come alcuni affermano, infatti, se fosse vero che, anche sbagliando, il tuo progetto potesse venir preso di mira, e così tutti coloro che vi partecipano e ricevono degli upvote dallo stesso, si rischierebbe di finire in un circolo di voti al ribasso che, non solo penalizzerebbe quanto si potrebbe riuscire a ricevere dal progetto stesso, ma anche, eventualmente, da eventuali voti organici, con il rischio, poi, di essere presi abbastanza di mira.
Non vorrei, poi, che tutto questo finisse per andare a influire negativamente anche sul tuo precedente progetto, che, al contrario, sta riscuotendo un successo, via, via, sempre crescente.
Ovviamente lungi da me dubitare sulle tue intenzioni, ma semplicemente mi pongo il quesito, a questo punto, se valga la pena di rischiare quanto di buono sei riuscito a fare fino ad oggi, continuando a portare avanti un progetto, che potrebbe metterti al centro dell'occhio del ciclone, causandoti, poi, problemi tanto su questo, appena nato, quanto su quelli precedenti.
La mia ovviamente vuole essere semplicemente una mia considerazione, un mio pensiero, e nulla di più, natomi dopo aver letto tutta la bagarre nata nei commenti qui sotto, e peraltro espresso da una persona che certamente non ha le tue competenze in materia, però mi dispiacerebbe veramente un sacco se realmente succedesse quanto da me paventato poche righe più sopra, poiché, sinceramente, mi spiacerebbe se, anche solo per un incomprensione, potessi ritrovarti in una situazione simile, che potesse andare a farti buttare nel cestino tutto quello che di buono hai realizzato fino adesso.
Spero che la questione venga presto chiarita, ma, soprattutto, che tu non finisca per essere preso di mira, col rischio di ritrovarti penalizzato anche per tutto quello di buono che hai fatto prima.
Ciao , scusa se ti risponderò con poche righe ma ora non riesco a stare al computer sono troppo dispiaciuto per il fallimento prematuro per il mio progetto , davvero perdonami sappi solo che apprezzo molto tutto quello che dici! <3 !PGM
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Devo ammettere di essere rimasto esterrefatto quando mi sono ritrovato a leggere i commenti sotto al tuo post, visto che mai mi sarei aspettato una simile reazione a questo tuo progetto, che, onestamente, mi sembrava molto interessante.
Mai avrei pensato, quindi, di ritrovarmi a leggere di una polemica che, onestamente, forse mancandomi alcune nozioni, che magari mi potrebbero far comprendere meglio le motivazioni della stessa, non sono riuscito a comprendere del tutto.
Conoscendoti sono più che sicuro che, certamente, non era tua intenzione fare realmente quello di cui venivi accusato, e molto probabilmente si è trattato solamente di un fraintendimento, ma resta il fatto che, essere andati avanti lo stesso, visto tutto quello che era successo, sarebbe stato un rischio, che sarebbe potuto, poi, ricadere anche su progetti precedenti, e sarebbe stato veramente un peccato.
Spero che tu riesca a lasciarti presto tutto alle spalle, e che, magari, in futuro, riesca a trovare il modo per riproporre un nuovo progetto, evitando di ricadere, nuovamente, in situazioni di questo genere.
Hanno ragione , ho sbagliato e ora che ho razionalizzato la cosa ho capito che era la via sbagliata , le emozioni offuscano la ragione c'è poco da fare. Tornerò con un altro progetto 100x migliore!
Beh, comunque sia andata, ritengo che, nel caso, l'errore non sia stato certo voluto, ma semplicemente si sia trattato di qualche valutazione errata, o di una qualche svista e nulla di più, e, comunque, ammettere, ora, il tuo eventuale errore, ti rende ancora più meritevole della mia fiducia, per quanto mi riguarda
Sono più che certo che presto ti vedremo rispuntare con un nuovo progetto che, tenuto conto della situazione che si è venuta a creare in questo caso, sarà migliore, ed eviterà qualsiasi discussione di sorta, portando benefici a chiunque vi parteciperà.
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I am more convinced knowing @ zottone444 that it is not his intention to do anything of what he is accused of, but he is running the risk, however, of being targeted, and if this happens, and above all continues, the risk is that, not only the new project would never be able to take off, but that even what has been done previously ends up being questioned, with the consequences of the case.
At this point, therefore, I don't know if it is worth taking such a risk.
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Yes, I agree with you. I also think we should refuse to continue this project, so as not to set ourselves and the old project and all those who can enter the new project...
Obviously the last word will touch a @zottone444 and it is not my intention to condition him in any way in the choice he will make
Unfortunately, however, after all the discussions that have arisen, I fear that wanting to go on, except to completely overturn the project and radically change it, so that we can avoid the recurrence of discussions of this kind, could be, in my opinion, very risky.
The real problem, then, is that it could be risky, not so much only for the new project, as it could have repercussions, and even heavy ones, even on all that was good that had been done previously, and I sincerely believe that, at this point, the risk is not worth the candle
I think it's worth mentioning at this point, from where I stand, there's no problem with the people involved. Only the project. Specifically the vote selling aspect.
Provided everyone can be professional. Things should smooth out. Of course that's only my opinion. I don't speak for everyone. They all have their own minds.
Honestly I am a simple very basic user of this world, and, consequently, I do not think I have the necessary notions to fully understand, and evaluate, the situation that has arisen.
Knowing @ zottone444 I want to believe that it was simply an error of evaluation, and that there was no intention of violating any rules.
I seem to have understood, however, that the project around which all the above controversy was born, was immediately abandoned by the creator himself, and, consequently, I believe that the case can be considered closed even before it was opened.
Pleased to know that there will be no repercussions, neither for the aforementioned, nor for those who wanted to support the project, also in consideration of the fact that the same is already dead
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Ma chiedo per un amico :p
Se un utente acquista degli HDT e poi li trasferisce ad un altro utente, riceverà il voto l'utente che finale che riceve i token immagino, giusto?
I know you're trying to be fancy here but this boils down to vote selling. That typically doesn't fly here. Could lead to downvotes in the worst case scenario. You need to know that. And so does everyone else.
And the way voting power works, and with your limited HP, there simply won't be enough to go around. Seemingly, people would be paying for almost nothing, that trickles in over time. A lot of time. Meanwhile all the HP generated in this fashion is YOURS; thousands of dollars worth. HDT has no value, you're simply putting a price on it, then converting those proceeds into HP, then using that HP to vote. You keep the HP and there isn't enough votes to go around to make this worthwhile, yet the votes are your main selling point and what seems to be attracting the interest of the consumer and their money, which gets funneled into you wallet.
I know how the system works here. This does not come across as a fair deal in my mind. And again, exchanging money for votes was eliminated long ago, with downvotes, because selling votes turned into a disaster. It's not worth trying again.
$500 for 6 votes per week at 50% voting power? From accounts that don't even have as much HP as me? Can someone explain how that makes sense?
I apologize if the project passed like this, I'm so sorry I will come back stronger than before.
Bye
Don't take it personally, though I understand you're disappointed. Your integrity remains intact. Your reputation remains intact. The project had serious flaws. Not you. If you ever need help with something or have a question, feel free to ask. If I can't answer I'll find someone who can.
It's not the end of the world and I believe what you're saying about bouncing back.
I insist though, just as I had suggested several times previously, next time you come up with something, offer the details, all of them, from the start. This one was dependent on vote selling. Votes are free. $500 for 6 votes per week. That's debt. Those votes are worthless.
Who would pay their boss then go to work to get their money back... ?
You're right, I was wrong a lot, I will work hard to reprove a similar project but with votes that will arrive in a meritocratic way and above all I will try to fix the whole project well which will be announced with all the details in the first post without a turn of words, but first I'll let some other user see it.
Sorry for the past few days, I behaved like one of those users I've always fought against here on HIVE!
Vote selling almost destroyed this place long ago. People fought to get rid of it. I was one of them. Some new code was eventually introduced in a hardfork that included these downvotes in their current form and from there that problem was solved. So now when it comes to vote selling, the downvotes are there to act as a deterrent. Shouldn't have to be used but will be used when necessary. That's where we stand and that's where we've stood for a long time.
About the past few days, these conversations are never easy but I'm always fully prepared for some kind of chaos. I don't take it personally. It's all good. That's life. You weren't even that bad. Just frustrated. I get it.
And good luck with your project.
Yes in fact I was wrong , unfortunately the ideas and enthusiasm clouded my mind.... I apologize to all of you once again and especially to you who were trying to enlighten my head a few days ago!
There's really no need to apologize.
I really hope that you are able to make a great project mate, but vote selling really isn't the way to go about it. There is a very long history of it here and it took a long time and a lot of effort to get rid of it, as it was strangling the community.
Good luck with the next one!
Yes yes I know, on steem you bought the votes with tokens etc., ave, you did well otherwise I would not have noticed!
Did you notice that anyone with a stake doesn't give a toss?
That is not true - I happily downvoted it :)
Yes. Could it be because they've been around the block a few times?
Oh yes it is... the account touting all this was created May 2020. That's post STEEM divorce, and long post the bot days. It's nothing new and we don't want it back.
Just out of curiosity, are you aware of any other 'projects' similar to this one?
There are a few 2-3, small projects out there. Someone on Discord have a list.
but I told you that dividends will come and we will do powerdowns but you wake up I will collect 5% the rest will be divided
Still selling votes.
And now you tell me there will be even less HP backing those votes that are already weak when you say there will be powerdowns.
Have you thought about a different approach that doesn't involve selling votes? Does this entire operation depend on selling votes?
I am wide awake. I noticed you're only releasing one puzzle piece at a time when it comes to offering all the details. I had suggested in our previous conversation you lay it all out on the table for everyone to see.
Well, except for dlease.
Delegating for profit is vote selling just as selling them one at a time is.
yeah I probably could have worded that better but I wasn't writing an essay, and I'm not here to play word games.
You know what I meant.
This is vote selling.
The people who buy votes in this manner will get downvoted and make no ROI. They may even make negative ROI as the downvotes will cost them reputation and earnings.
You on the other hand will walk away with much profit
It's up to people what they do but selling votes even in disguise doesn't work here
Sorry , I made a mistake , I put my face on it , I will come back with a new project where I will not assure votes or anything else...
I apologize again , I would have liked to have had a little more time to be able to talk about my plan but whatever , I would have gone to split all the HP earnings to the top holders and make them earn from the votes , but I can't say that in the end I went against the rules of HIVE , just one thing next time let's talk first and then act , not that you destroy me hours of work in 10 seconds , just this because I from now until the release of a new project I will be with sto weight of having let down a community because I didn't have time to make up for it
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I think in future you have to think long and hard about projects on Hive and in particular learn from the lessons of the past. There are a lot of us here with bitter memories of how vote buying/trading/selling schemes almost destroyed the platform we love and call home.
When someone puts forth a scheme which says send me money and I will send you votes even if it is in a roundabout way then it sets alarm bells ringing. We don't want to go backward like that. This is why we have free downvotes and this is why those with stake tend to use them
Quiet, the next day I rationalized and I realized I was wrong! Regardless of whether you did my project well, it was a shit project!
Huh? Where is the dividends?
They will arrive after selling x tokens, all the info is on the old post
Okay. Well because the model where you upvote users, smells like vote selling.
Smells exactly like it.
No no, if you see well, now I don't remember the exact figure, but I think 1550 HDT sold, let's start with dividends!
I agree. This is vote selling.
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Don’t do vote selling. I will nuke this account
Wait, I have not finished writing all the things and you are already attacking me ... I do not understand nothing has started yet, I will return 95% of the rewards from the sale of HIVE, and the votes will be the extra income .. .
I would have announced it in another post if you could give me some time
Sorry , I made a mistake , I put my face on it , I will come back with a new project where I will not assure votes or anything else...
good, in that case there is no problem.
Please don't cook up a vote selling racket in future.
Yes, let's say that my idea was not to sell votes, I know that ethically it is not right and I have always co-battled this thing, there was no bad faith in doing this project of course, my only goal was to sell tokens and give in exchange first of all the votes which should not have been dosed as I did but had to be given in a meritocratic way to users, while as I did it seems that those who have more money earn more, but then I would have gone to give everyone back with the powerdown the HIVE, however I will redo the HDT project by changing their name and dedicating more attention to details, I will certainly eliminate the fixed votes, a question instead, can I do something similar to the table I did for the votes for dividends?
We want you project and your dividend token and you can also payout what you want with powerdowns.
Just dont promise users votes for hodling your token.
Dont throw away your project/name, its not done or gone :D Just change the voting part
The fact 'Hive' was used in the project name makes me cringe.
That's hijacking brand recognition/reputation. Part of the reason why many inexperienced members didn't question the project and accepted it a face value could be because they thought it was coming from "Head Office", even though there is no "Head Office."
Never wise to hijack a name. Much better to build your own brand and reputation. Quite beneficial too, in the long run.
Well, ye properly.
I didn't really think of it as a problem, might because I know there isn't a "Head Office" right :D
Kinda the same SBI did when they changed into HSBI = Hive Stake Based Income.
But they did already have some sort of brand though.
You are properly right :D
is pgm-curator your project too, its comments are quite spammy. Is it built on the same model?
No @ pgm-curator is like that because we offer a lot of AHA services, as sending so many tokens the message is cumbersome let's say, from what I understand on HIVE there is no other token that sends so many tokens with the command! PGM , but @ pgm-curator has a totally different format, those who delegate only receive HIVE back and then we add the pools like PGM and THG which are tokens to thank the community that supports the project, while the votes are sent by a user who takes care the posts manually in fact very often we skip a few posts, they pay $ 0.10 in PGM which are then burned, but PGM can be accumulated in 10 thousand ways
What about dlease?
They sell votes wholesale.
yes, and if they post about it and farm hive rewards I will DV
my ability and capacity is quite limited unfortunately
Yes, it would take a concentrated effort by 'the community'.
Guess I won't be holding my breath.
Thanks for crushing this one.
Thanks for the explanations 😎
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I tag @invest-time who seems interested in the project too
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Ciao @zottone444
Ero più che curioso di leggere il tuo post per capire tutte le novità in arrivo, e se era già presente una data di inizio, poiché ammetto che ero piuttosto incuriosito ed interessato a questa novità, che speravo potesse avere lo stesso successo del tuo precedente progetto legato al mondo che ruota intorno al tuo token PGM.
Purtroppo, però, dopo aver letto il post, ho anche notato una discreta mole di downvote che hanno preso di mira il tuo articolo, ma, soprattutto, letto parecchi commenti, piuttosto spiacevoli, che sembrano voler letteralmente massacrare il progetto considerandolo contro le regole.
Ammetto, in tutta onestà, di non poter dire la mia con la dovuta cognizione di causa, e conoscendoti dubito che, se anche vi fosse qualcosa che realmente non tornasse per quanto riguarda alcune regole di questo mondo, tu possa averlo fatto intenzionalmente, e sono, al contrario, convinto che tu stessi cercando di creare un ulteriore opportunità dopo quella che hai fornito a tutti noi, ma ammetto, nello stesso tempo, che dopo questo putiferio, sono un po' preoccupato e dubbioso.
Come alcuni affermano, infatti, se fosse vero che, anche sbagliando, il tuo progetto potesse venir preso di mira, e così tutti coloro che vi partecipano e ricevono degli upvote dallo stesso, si rischierebbe di finire in un circolo di voti al ribasso che, non solo penalizzerebbe quanto si potrebbe riuscire a ricevere dal progetto stesso, ma anche, eventualmente, da eventuali voti organici, con il rischio, poi, di essere presi abbastanza di mira.
Non vorrei, poi, che tutto questo finisse per andare a influire negativamente anche sul tuo precedente progetto, che, al contrario, sta riscuotendo un successo, via, via, sempre crescente.
Ovviamente lungi da me dubitare sulle tue intenzioni, ma semplicemente mi pongo il quesito, a questo punto, se valga la pena di rischiare quanto di buono sei riuscito a fare fino ad oggi, continuando a portare avanti un progetto, che potrebbe metterti al centro dell'occhio del ciclone, causandoti, poi, problemi tanto su questo, appena nato, quanto su quelli precedenti.
La mia ovviamente vuole essere semplicemente una mia considerazione, un mio pensiero, e nulla di più, natomi dopo aver letto tutta la bagarre nata nei commenti qui sotto, e peraltro espresso da una persona che certamente non ha le tue competenze in materia, però mi dispiacerebbe veramente un sacco se realmente succedesse quanto da me paventato poche righe più sopra, poiché, sinceramente, mi spiacerebbe se, anche solo per un incomprensione, potessi ritrovarti in una situazione simile, che potesse andare a farti buttare nel cestino tutto quello che di buono hai realizzato fino adesso.
Spero che la questione venga presto chiarita, ma, soprattutto, che tu non finisca per essere preso di mira, col rischio di ritrovarti penalizzato anche per tutto quello di buono che hai fatto prima.
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Ciao , scusa se ti risponderò con poche righe ma ora non riesco a stare al computer sono troppo dispiaciuto per il fallimento prematuro per il mio progetto , davvero perdonami sappi solo che apprezzo molto tutto quello che dici! <3 !PGM
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Devo ammettere di essere rimasto esterrefatto quando mi sono ritrovato a leggere i commenti sotto al tuo post, visto che mai mi sarei aspettato una simile reazione a questo tuo progetto, che, onestamente, mi sembrava molto interessante.
Mai avrei pensato, quindi, di ritrovarmi a leggere di una polemica che, onestamente, forse mancandomi alcune nozioni, che magari mi potrebbero far comprendere meglio le motivazioni della stessa, non sono riuscito a comprendere del tutto.
Conoscendoti sono più che sicuro che, certamente, non era tua intenzione fare realmente quello di cui venivi accusato, e molto probabilmente si è trattato solamente di un fraintendimento, ma resta il fatto che, essere andati avanti lo stesso, visto tutto quello che era successo, sarebbe stato un rischio, che sarebbe potuto, poi, ricadere anche su progetti precedenti, e sarebbe stato veramente un peccato.
Spero che tu riesca a lasciarti presto tutto alle spalle, e che, magari, in futuro, riesca a trovare il modo per riproporre un nuovo progetto, evitando di ricadere, nuovamente, in situazioni di questo genere.
Buona giornata e buon weekend.
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Hanno ragione , ho sbagliato e ora che ho razionalizzato la cosa ho capito che era la via sbagliata , le emozioni offuscano la ragione c'è poco da fare. Tornerò con un altro progetto 100x migliore!
Beh, comunque sia andata, ritengo che, nel caso, l'errore non sia stato certo voluto, ma semplicemente si sia trattato di qualche valutazione errata, o di una qualche svista e nulla di più, e, comunque, ammettere, ora, il tuo eventuale errore, ti rende ancora più meritevole della mia fiducia, per quanto mi riguarda
Sono più che certo che presto ti vedremo rispuntare con un nuovo progetto che, tenuto conto della situazione che si è venuta a creare in questo caso, sarà migliore, ed eviterà qualsiasi discussione di sorta, portando benefici a chiunque vi parteciperà.
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I am of the same opinion. Thank you that I didn't have to write it myself.
@zottone444
It's really going to be dangerous if some whales already see it as a violation. I wouldn't argue with them either...
!ALIVE
It's just what I think after what happened ...
I am more convinced knowing @ zottone444 that it is not his intention to do anything of what he is accused of, but he is running the risk, however, of being targeted, and if this happens, and above all continues, the risk is that, not only the new project would never be able to take off, but that even what has been done previously ends up being questioned, with the consequences of the case.
At this point, therefore, I don't know if it is worth taking such a risk.
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Yes, I agree with you. I also think we should refuse to continue this project, so as not to set ourselves and the old project and all those who can enter the new project...
!LUV all us!
Obviously the last word will touch a @zottone444 and it is not my intention to condition him in any way in the choice he will make
Unfortunately, however, after all the discussions that have arisen, I fear that wanting to go on, except to completely overturn the project and radically change it, so that we can avoid the recurrence of discussions of this kind, could be, in my opinion, very risky.
The real problem, then, is that it could be risky, not so much only for the new project, as it could have repercussions, and even heavy ones, even on all that was good that had been done previously, and I sincerely believe that, at this point, the risk is not worth the candle
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Hi there.
I think it's worth mentioning at this point, from where I stand, there's no problem with the people involved. Only the project. Specifically the vote selling aspect.
Provided everyone can be professional. Things should smooth out. Of course that's only my opinion. I don't speak for everyone. They all have their own minds.
Honestly I am a simple very basic user of this world, and, consequently, I do not think I have the necessary notions to fully understand, and evaluate, the situation that has arisen.
Knowing @ zottone444 I want to believe that it was simply an error of evaluation, and that there was no intention of violating any rules.
I seem to have understood, however, that the project around which all the above controversy was born, was immediately abandoned by the creator himself, and, consequently, I believe that the case can be considered closed even before it was opened.
Pleased to know that there will be no repercussions, neither for the aforementioned, nor for those who wanted to support the project, also in consideration of the fact that the same is already dead
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Yeah, I saw that earlier. What happened? Wrong community?
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@tawadak24 don't miss it. 😁 !PGM !PIZZA
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Excelente iniciativa invito a mi amigo @lanzjoseg para que evalúe el proyecto.
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Ma chiedo per un amico :p
Se un utente acquista degli HDT e poi li trasferisce ad un altro utente, riceverà il voto l'utente che finale che riceve i token immagino, giusto?
Il buon @blumela sa già a cosa sto pensando :p