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I am aware that self voting is frowned upon. I’ve never been compelled to self vote, even since day one. To me, it just didn’t feel right.
but…
My vote value has gone up in regards to pob. Not dramatically, but value is beginning to show.
presence…
I have multiple accounts. I use @hivebeliever to produce informative posts for the community and curate. @beingana is supposed to be for #actifit and fitness posts, but I rarely use that account properly because fitness is constantly being put on the back burner. Then of course, there’s this account @anaclark, that I use actively.
so why self vote now?
It may at first seem like a selfish act, but it isn’t. That being said, self does play a part, but not so much.
I’ve spent years (on and off) tending to my Hive account to bulk up my vote value. Thanks to Proof of Brain, my attempts and hard work has been paying off.
Now that my vote is worth is a small, tangible value, I have the ability to take control of my own goals. I still rely on the community; we all do in one form or another, but now, I can be a part of my own growth.
what does this have to do with others?
Everything! This has everything to do with others. See, the faster and larger my vote power grows, the bigger and better my vote will be for others in the community.
My measly vote isn’t going to pivot my personal post rewards into another realm. It really isn’t going to put funds in my pocket. When the time comes that my vote does have enough power to put income pocket, I’ll have stopped self voting long since. This is only a temporary strategy to work on bulking my vote power up a bit faster so that when I vote for other community members the vote will provide them a little boost (especially for new members).
additionally…
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I’m also working on getting @hivebeliever on its feet. I invested a little more than $400 fiat into that account and it really isn’t doing shit all. $400 isn’t a ton of money, but I really thought that I’d see some kind of revenue by now.
Rapidly, I learned that comprehension of some Hive mechanics had escaped me. Slapping a few hundred dollars into a new account doesn’t cause that account to produce ROI. Alternatively, if I’d invested $400 into this account, I would have seen measurable change.
What a I learned was that vote value is not merely based on Hive Power. I also started paying attention to curation rewards- turns out that they aren’t nearly as great as assumed (not for a new account of low value).
I have a current new post by @hivebeliever that had about 3 pob in votes. I self voted and brought it up to 4 pob. Not much at all. Hardly worth talking about. Growing an account takes time, consistency, and hard work. There’s points where shifts happen, that bring to light viable changes. During those shifts, leveraging and pushing is necessary to keep the momentum and prevent rolling backwards.
I’m not going to sit around and wait for Hive Believer to be noticed. That’s my money. My fiat money. I’m going to do everything in my power to grow my baby as quickly as possible.
That doesn’t mean that I’m going to self vote shit posts to feed my pockets and ego. No! Hive Believer posts are quality content and deserve the attention from this account. In fact, if someone else wrote those articles I would vote them as well. I have no shame in knowing my worth and value. I also have no shame in putting my success in my hands and applying every strategy that I know.
Ultimately, Hive Believer (and all my accounts) add value to Hive, the communities that the accounts are active in, and fellow Hivian Hivers. So plans, strategies, and hard work is not (completely) selfish.
Anyone who feels the need to cease voting me because I’m wise enough to know when to be the master of my sea, well I don’t even know what to say to that. It’s just silly!
and there you have it…
There you have the reason that I’m going to start self voting; to become a bigger, better, supporter of Hive and all its lovely humans. 🤍🌹🤍
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Yeah I remember when I first got here self-voting seemed pretty lame.
I would still never do it on traditional social media.
Things are a little different when money is involved.
Gotta give yourself a salary.
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I believe that that’s exactly the thought process that I navigate through.
Liking my own post elsewhere is just silly, but dynamics are very different here.
I still feel strange about self voting, but have come to the conclusion that it’s actually logical. It’s also beneficial to everyone in the long haul.
I’m aware that there are some account holders who only self vote, that’s different. And if that’s what they want to do, then a I guess that’s what they do. Many people, like myself, actually feed Hive in positive ways. There’s nothing wrong with tossing an extra dollar or two in ones wallet that will ultimately serve as power to sprinkle around to others.
Check out my 8th post ever on the blockchain:
December 20, 2017
Upvoting your own posts is so lame
Such rage.
I see no objection to self vote on this platform and your content has obviously quality content so go ahead and not thing too much about others :-)
Until you get to 1mv, ~530hp, it's all fair, iyam.
After that, you know better, imo.
If you go here:
https://leodex.io/rewards
You can set a multiplier, so you can vote a small hive vote and a 100% pob vote.
I have mine set to ten and vote with 25%, mostly.
This way, nearly everybody gets a 100% h-e vote and I don't waste the vote power not voting things because of the hive involved.
Which way does it work though? Does a 25% vote on the Interface turn into a 100% Hive vote or a 100% POB vote?
I have set my multiplier to 20 so I vote PoB posts usually on Hive / peakds e.g. with 5% Hive Vote which is a 100% POB vote - seeing my voting power for PoB still always drained around 30% I consider to increase multiplier to 30/40 or even 50
I've heard that voting power doesn't start falling off until you get to 10%, or so, but haven't tested that myself.
When you vote with a percentage the service multiplies that by the multiplier you set.
So, if you want to give a 100%pay vote with a 10% hive vote you would set the multiplier to 10.
Self voting has never been frowned upon unless you are a whale who has a massive amount of voting power. There are accounts that reap most of the reward pool on a consistent basis. Minnow users should be attempting to optimize their curation rewards by voting, and if the content they create isnt worth voting on then you should reconsider and revise it before you post. I have seen there are varying points of views, but it is simply a matter of 50% of the reward being curation and when you are attempting to gain enough HP for voting, a user should remember to vote for themself. This discussion will also continue to evolve as the HF25 update changes the voting window, which means the first 5 users to vote will not be the ones who get the most curation reward. If an individual feels that voting for themselves is NOT something they should do, then they do not have to vote for themselves and they can even write a post (or several) explaining their reason and attempt to convince others that it is the correct action to take. I do not believe that any user has the right to dictate what others can or cannot do, as we all have the FREEDOM to use our vote. If you don't think you can reason your reason, withholding your vote is another method of showing your opinion. It doesn't always have to go straight to downvoting, however we do have the ability to use our vote weight to make a point, with all the ramifications that can cause. If you could start downvoting and harassing your neighbor, it could get ugly real fast. If you tell your neighbor that he can't vote for his own stories, you might irritate him. If we all want to live in peace and work together we should be using our logic and reasoning to discuss perspectives and look at the results logically, and informed we can then either consent or decline. That is what we can do here, and I would vote for that. I also vote for my own posts but I let others vote first, sometimes I decline or burn rewards, and I give away a lot of Hive for fun. I try to be the guy who I wished would help explain things for me, and vote on my stuff, when I started five years ago.
Nothing wrong with self voting if you ask me, as long as it isn't abused.
This is it. You have to stay consistent with your activity and content, growth is a natural result of that
I agree.
I still feel strange self voting, and it’l it’s really just for posts that I think need a boost- and the newer account.
I must really do want to try to get my accounts developing a revenue where I can use it for personal expenses while still being a strong supporter of others on Hive.
I’ve been holding off on converting to spendable income because I truly do believe in Hive and want to find a balance between living off it (to some extent) while still being a viable person community member.
Thank you for your kind words. 🌹
I reckon things will fall in place with a little time. There are some accounts that started the same time I joined back then with steem, they are large Orca's now because of their crazy consistency. It will be difficult but the rewards will come
Really?
I remember when you joined back then, because Eddie is your Hive friend and he was also a very motivating person to me. I believe you joined mere months after I did.
I’m not sure if you recall that.
But you are one of the early “faces” to me here.
If you saw minnows become orcas, that could have been us. Sad face. 😞
Granted, my quality was more garbage than good. I’ve looked back at my posts and think, “wth is THAT, Ana?” Lol
It took me a lot of deliberate research to figure out what the audience on hive likes. I guess that’s the transition from social media to Hive.
Still, I wouldn’t mind being an Orca.
Oh thank you! I have been wanting to convert hive to fiat just to know that I know that I’m able to do it when I might actually need to.
I also wanted to prove to skeptics that it’s possible.
When trying to invite friends here, I get two responses: “I have enough accounts” and “isn’t that a pyramid scheme?”
After watching Start Up (series) I was able to see why Hive looks like a scheme. And I’m some ways, it does seem to operate that way. That said, there’s many mechanics here that definitively render the scheme argument to be a misunderstanding.
When I finally came back to Hive, I had $350 + $250 usd value in actifit, and then Steem and Hive on top of that. That was WITHOUT a cent of investment.
I could have pulled those funds out (but I’ve been converting to apprentice tokens and staking everything). If I invested nothing (other than time and equipment) than this isn’t a scheme!
I would like to prove that to the skeptics.
(I wish I wasn’t so long winded sometimes! Sorry)
If you need to convert some fiat money into POB, contact me on Discord. Why don't you post about life in Canada? Is it still like cold-war era Poland?
I covered this in the beginner's guide. You're really not going to make money self-voting. Produce good content and/or invest so you can earn from curation.
The problem with self voting only comes into play when a person isn't participating in the community and they are only self voting.
There are very few motives to hold Hive, and a self vote a day should be encouraged. We have a group of people who like to make up strange rules that don't make sense and try to enforce them.
I think it's great that you are getting value out of your account after your hard work and I think it is insanity people are criticized for benefiting from doing the right things on the platform.
Congrats on your decision and also on building your account to a point you are excited about it. The more active people with a reasonable vote the better!
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If they don't want us to self vote, then they should just change the code. Code is law.