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I've been ignoring them and any other community that tries the same stunt. It's nothing new. PH for example.

What I'm now noticing is this entire Hive community went through hell and back. Years of stagnation turned into a consistent flow of positive results; slowly poking away at those problems. People here are refusing to give others credit when its due, they're bringing up old baggage and presenting it as new, and turning a blind eye to the progress being made. And I think that's because they spent years complaining; now they don't want to be proven wrong. So we get all this sketchy shit like some member throwing sensationalized disinformation my way as evidence this place is falling apart.

I had a feeling long ago the second layer community tokens would come with their own set of challenges. There are people here who feel entitled now to tokens from communities they openly hate, including Hive in general. Community members in lead positions should take notice and realize they're being used and manipulated. So much of this is taken for granted now, but it was intended to solve problems. We barely see a post properly tagged anymore because all they want are those tokens. They don't give a crap about their communities. They're almost all identical when it comes to content, offering very little in the form of exclusives since they're maxing out community tags. Some get downvoted because their content doesn't quite fit with the theme of the community, and they throw a fit.

Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. I try not to get frustrated nowadays. I've witnessed nearly every step of the way here; only missed the first couple months. I can tell when people aren't being fully honest around here when it happens. There's a lot of lopsided viewpoints floating around and some of them are steering the naive in every direction but a clear path. But I guess that's the road some choose to be on. Whatever.

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In @trostparadox defense he's new enough to not have been here when things were worse and may not appreciate how well curation on Hive works right now compared the the 0.001% of abusive downvotes that could possibly easily be countered. I really don't want to judge people to have ulterior motives when it comes to what it is they seem to focus on to complain about Hive but it's really not easy to give them the benefit of the doubt when there's a lot of money/profits on the line for what they adhere to. Naturally the same could be said about my intentions defending Hive out of fear that PoB might take more and more value from Hive but looking at the history of native coins there haven't really been any examples of tokens overtaking them in marketcap in the past nor would it hurt them that badly if they gained a lot of marketcap and other pairings outside of our side-chain market.

Honestly more power to 2nd layer tokens, I'd want to get my own OCD token out at some point (won't release any details about it now) but hopefully will be able to fund it and launch it on a sidechain with less fees. I'm sure ETH has learned a lot from its erc-20 tokens and even integrated some of their solutions so I'm all for people involved in these tokens to experiment and show Hive how things could improve which trostparadox seems to think I'm against even though I've commented that at least twice in this thread before now. What they seem to be doing now doesn't seem like that's their intention, though.

I can see he's wet behind the ears and I don't hold it against him. There's a strong chance as well people are simply unaware of how situations like this when boiled down to 'good vs evil' like that make the ones presenting themselves as good, appear evil. I'm not saying anyone is evil. Simply offering some perspective. And it's not fun sitting here knowing full well if I speak up or don't fully agree, I'm automatically lumped into the evil pile either. All this creates is a general pain in the ass. There's absolutely no need to place a wall between community members and maintain it.

Community members in lead positions should take notice and realize they're being used and manipulated.

Explain?


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Community members in lead positions should take notice and realize they're being used and manipulated.

"Explain?"

For instance, if you create a community about ducks and offer DUCK rewards, but people start posting geese and flamingos, they'll threaten to blow the place up if you downvote their geese and flamingos. These silly lopsided arguments about downvotes that are often blown way the hell out of proportion are on the minds of everyone who runs a community or would like to start. So they just let shit slide. Do you know how hated I'd be if I just wanted to run an actual magazine here and provide consumers with quality instead of just opening the floodgates to all that randomness? It would be WW3. The smear campaign would never end. I'd have to close my doors.

And it's worth mentioning, if one removes the downvotes and replaces with another system, that system is then what the people will lose their shit over.