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RE: Why was I down voted?

in Freewriters2 years ago

Thank you for your response. I appreciate your taking the time to explain this to me.

It looks to me like these two posts may have been beginner's errors by a newbie, but spamminator is still downvoting nearly every single post, even the ones with zero rewards. I believe this will make it very difficult for them to raise their reputation, if that matters, and they are still earning next to nothing on their posts. They are mostly publishing good, original creative writing content, which is very difficult to earn with on hive, especially at the beginning. I'm a fan of freewritehouse, I would not still be here if not for them, and I hate to see any freewriter downvoted for any reason. I can tell from the writing style of his recent non-creative writing posts that he wrote them himself, unlike the two older plagiarized posts you provided above.

Unless there are recent instances of plagiarism, I do feel like this account is being unfairly harassed. It's a bad look for hive.

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  1. I am not responsible or part of any thing responsible for who gets what treatment.

  2. The user recently contacted HW and the blacklist can be removed only after appeal period.

  3. I believe you are misunderstanding how operation spamminator works.

  4. I also think it's just a lame excuse that someone gave their friends keys and they plagarized. I am not open to accept that this happened. It's a Lie in my opinion based on the cases I seen.

  5. Spamminator is not a bully, it's just a dust value downvote Letting people know that users did plagarism recently. So people can decide they wanna upvote or not.

  6. Hive works with proof of stake and spamminator passed the proposal and funding. Unless someone with bigger stake (voting on proposal) or better solution come forward with alternatives, it's here to stay. It's changeable but till it's not changed, this is the best we have.

  7. I would also like to call it shotgun method which treats everyone equally, Newbies or oldies. This is because not many are being active in downvoting or antiabuse. Till things get changed the option is apply for appeal and have guts to say it's their fault (giving keys also is nobody's fault other then him). After that complete the appeal period and don't plagarize again. Downvotes will be gone.

Okay I get all this, but should this account be flagged forever now? People make mistakes. He can appeal, which is a hassle. Is there no provision for ending the downvotes unless you appeal?

I don't downvote often, because I do not presume that I know the whole picture on anything. I don't want to. I just want to post my little stories and to have them be read. Simple. If someone is rude, or gratuitously downvoting me, I retaliate in kind. I know this is not the purpose of downvoting, but you must admit it happens quite a lot.

I remember how hard it was to be a newbie. There were many rules and etiquettes that I knew nothing about. HW left a nice message about plagiarism on at least one of the posts in question. That would most likely have been enough for this account, judging by his subsequent content.

Unless we have alot of people downvoting plagarism on daily bases, we have this shotgun method. We can't go in depth of these cases and the appeal period seems like working to keep hive abuse free. If this person immediately contacted HW by accepting what he did wrong, he might get a lower appeal period and it might have to ended already. An appeal period starts after someone appeals by accepting the fault and giving his keys is not atleast my fault.

I wish he gets a lower appeal period if he approaches clean even after this....

I marked his onboarder too. The content looks AI to me but can't say for sure before checking manually. If his onboarder is also suspicious then I will assume they both are same person based on my personal judgement and others don't have to agree with me. :)

Sorry for grammar and other minor errors in sentences, I am on my phone and in different mood.

Thank again for this info.

If this person immediately contacted HW

Newbies do not know how to do this.

How do you know who his onboarder is? I've often wanted to check that. I don't have an onboarder, I just joined steem way back when I wanted to escape FB.

I just visited profile from top to bottom. In intro post I found his onboarder name.

This detects introduction post of any user based on ofcourse text or tags...

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