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The conversation shifts towards European political figures like Marine Le Pen, representing right-wing extremism, who, once in power, gravitated towards centrist policies. This indicates a notable shift in political strategy where taking control necessitates greater pragmatism. The discussion hints at the failures of left-wing policies in Europe, advocating instead for a political return to the center, drawing a parallel to the political climate in the United States under Donald Trump, where substantial changes have been enacted.