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RE: Hive has surpassed Steem on Alexa!

in LeoFinance4 years ago

I think "evolved" is the wrong word in this case, probably degenerated is a better choice. Most of the stakeholders have sold out of Steem, which leaves most of the coins concentrated in a small number of hands. This is also focusing the rewards into the hands of a relatively few people.

I don't think it's really a Korean thing, so much as a particular group of Koreans (not really the same thing). Looking at the posts on trending, you can see it's the same people, over and over. This might make sense, if those people were devs producing work for the chain or exceptional content creators, but that's not the case.

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Hi,

are you able to say why you downvoted my report about my finding in Germany of this insect?

https://hive.blog/hive-101587/@indextrader24/die-hochmoor-mosaikjungfer-eine-vom-aussterben-bedrohte-edellibelle

Downvoting without comment is a bad style from my point of view.

So please inform me about your reason of the downvote?

SEND with LOVE!

PEACE!

Looks like you received an upvote from @ranchorelaxo and so you became victim of crossfire.

Why is that @blocktrades?
Why must innocent people be the ones who take the L. That's why this operation is so hypocritical. @theycallmedan blows the "building community" trumpet but then you, a partner, works to destroy community (not directly but inadvertently).

These things don't exist as meaningless either. They're part of the reason why the future of this place is in danger of collapsing when options for the user present themselves. You yourself led an exodus out of steemit when tyranny threatened stability.

Surely there's another way to continue the pissing contest without hurting people who are doing exactly what you want, and ask of them.. adding their content and building their communities organically.

You're confused about my motivations for the downvotes. If you actually want to understand them, instead of just making assumptions, you can read my reply to the poster.

I'm going on a previous reply you made regarding the same action, only that time it was against @haejin.
Your words then were that you held the view that he was trying to instigate you so you were downvoting in retaliation.

Either way crossfire was the result.

There was no reply at the time of my comment but I'll proceed to read now to gain better understanding.

There's a guy called haejin who's voting with a possibly stolen account called ranchorelaxo. He randomly votes up the top trending posts with 100% strength without reading them. I have a bot setup that does a lower value downvote to counter some of his upvote, so that trending posts don't get hugely overrewarded versus other posts.

Ok well the stolen account element makes it complex. Crossfire however catches community still.

My point remains.
Surely people and their rewards need not suffer.
To you it's pennies, to the uniformed victim, it's demoralising and disenfranchising.

It's not just the stolen account element: he's randomly voting up posts at 100% strength. Other large stakeholders don't normally do this, unless it's a really good/important post, because they influence rewards too much by doing so. Instead they vote a smaller percentage.

Random 100% votes from a large stakeholder end up distributing the rewards unfairly. Maybe you're not aware of this, but every downvote distributes the downvoted rewards to other posters. Downvoting his super large random votes counters this unfair distribution. And I don't even fully counter them, I just reduce their strength some: you can see this by noting that his vote is higher on the list when you look at voters.

Now it's true that the posters are sometimes confused/upset by this, because they don't understand the system. But once I've explained it to them, most seem to get it. I do wish the vote bot I use for this allowed me to leave an explanatory message, and hopefully @howo will have some time in the future to support that feature in the tool.

I did see that you're a "fair" downvoter.
I'm not against DV, just the collateral damage.
Good that there's focus on provided information then.
I wasn't aware that the rewards are redistributed.
Thanks for the explanation.

I thought those two are the same person?

Yeah I just see Korean but you're right the same accounts dominate. That's the age old complaint of The Trending Page. That it never did represent the whole and the voting system served the few.

You also touched on the major issue of here then. That big money left and doesn't come. So your vision, and future development, does in a way (in my view at least) exist as the make our break for this project.

Because I completely do agree that Hive (regardless of bad history) has a frontrunner position to break out and attract enterprise and a bulk users. The ease-of-use and system stability/scalability is what I see as the missing. The world is also clearly primed for that uptake.