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RE: What Will Hive Look Like With 100K Users?

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Sports Talk Social is a great sports community on Hive. They have been around for quite some time now. I agree though, it hasn't really picked up the way it should. I think part of it is due to the tokenomics, but I think they are working on that finally. I hope so anyway. It is a good community with a ton of potential. 5000 to 6000 users seems pretty horrible when you think of it in the grand scheme of things. I hope we can get that to grow.

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The problem I have with Sportstalk is that there is little being done to either develop or promote it. Also, I think the solution is not in a general sports community as much as a sole focus. How about a community for the Los Angeles Lakers or Dallas Cowboys? Imagine the activity if there was a Rams or Bengals group right now.

And yes I agree that 5K-6K or whatever it is each day is rather poor considering all that is one here. Of course, that doesnt take into account gamers who are a much larger portion.

Either way, plenty of room to grow. 100K daily Hive users should be our focus.

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I'm with you on this one. We do need a sports community but sports talk isn't the one that will do it.

General sport will work no problem but we still run into the same problem. Onboarding and retention. We still don't have proper tribes that can operate as communities without a full team of developers. I have twenty mates that would love sports and crypto but they wont go to the effort of getting a hive account and jumping through all of the hurdles.

It would need to be as simple as the leo infra signup process for any of these to work on a larger scale. Sports talk doesn't have a team of developers and hasn't improved since day one. It's a one man show and that isn't going to cut it.

We still need off the shelf communities that can be monetized to power that community. 1000 LEO sites that can be easily customizable by the community owner.

then each community has the task of marketing and growing that community independently and for their own benefit but to the overall growth of the hive eco system.

Will you ask Khal if he will sell communities for a set fee and yearly subscription since we won't get them any other way? One strong dev team to cover all of the communities would work a lot better than 1000 dev teams trying to do the same thing. It would be a business in itself like wordpress.

A very good idea.

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I do love sportstalk but I can't see it going anywhere in its current form. It needs. A proper team and the whole mess with the original tokens hurt the whole tribe.

If I had the time and money it would be great to do another sports tribe in the shape of Leo with onboarding, good tokenomics and a full team of moderators and content creators.

Until that day we can just enjoy what we have as it stands. Its still good for sports and engaging about them.

Will you ask Khal if he will sell communities for a set fee and yearly subscription since we won't get them any other way?

A very interesting concept and I am not sure how he feels about that. However, we will see what goes forward.

One thing is that any of your mates could sign up through Leofinance, through the ease of use, and then use the Hive account for Sports or anything else.

That is something that we need to keep in mind.

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Just an idea for him.
It would be tribes on steroids.
A much upgraded version without the need for a development team and messing with beeswap and other hurdles.

Pay 1000HBD.
Set up site to your specs.
Grow site organically.
Earn ad revenue.
Use this revenue to power the token on hive.
Pay a yearly HBD fee for maintenance and upgrades to the site.

As he upgrades leo it would be the same to upgrade the communities as well. All done using HBD. No messing with BEE swap. Constant upgrades to the site. Dedicated support team for the communities. dozens of new onboarding portals to begin with that could be grown to 100s if not thousands over the next few years as each samll community branches out to their own space.
If this grew to 1000 communities over time it could be pretty lucrative with 1M HBD upfront and maybe and maybe 250k yearly in maintenance. Then if you can grow your community large enough another 1000 HBD for mobile app version when they have the LEO app up and running to clone.
Win-win.

But lots of work and would need the first groups to be successful to empower more groups to branch out.

One thing is that any of your mates could sign up through Leofinance, through the ease of use, and then use the Hive account for Sports or anything else.

True but it's extra steps. I have created accounts for some of them in the past but until they can log onto my sports site and sign in with twitter or metamsk we are not there yet. Telling them to go to another site. sign up there. Then download keys. Download keychain and then come back to make a comment wont work.

I think they are trying to fix that. Hopefully it isn't a case of too little too late. I can see what you are saying about dedicated communities though. We have a whiskey/whisky community on Hive that you would think should be bumping, but hardly anyone ever posts in there. No token associated with it, so maybe that is the issue. Who knows.

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Also a dedicated front end is vital...like Cowboytalk.io or something.

Whiskeytalk.io

Doesnt have the same impact in my mind.

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Yeah, I was just thinking about that. I was going to scrape up the BEE to make the token, but then I realized without a front end, what is the point. It would definitely be Whiskeybusiness.io by the way. :)

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I would even support it without being a whiskey buff. It is a great idea so it is worthy of pursuit.

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Thanks. Like I said, we have the community, @steevc created it. Maybe it is something that won't come to fruition until those 100k users come to hive. I think a bbq community would be great too.

I think the lack of token has something to do with it. Also, in these early stages, that might be too niche. It is hard to get a growing community with something that isnt that big. How many people talk about and discuss whiskey?

Compare that with the number of blogs about the Cowboys and how people call into talk radio. There are millions of fans of that team.

That would be a great target market.

Going niche is great, just has to be a big enough niche to generate appeal.

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You'd actually be surprised. The Reddit Whiskey sub has over 200k subscribers. The bourbon one as well. There is likely some crossover there. Scotch has over 150k subscribers. Bourbon is big money right now which is why I am a bit disappointed.

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I am sure it is. However, being a part of a reddit group doesnt mean much is commented upon. We know that Reddit doesnt have a huge engagement percentage.

I am not saying it cant excel, it is just very niche. That is why I think a token and its own frontend might do well.

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There are some subs that do get a lot of comments. I think it just depends on the group. How hard is it to spin up a frontend? I might do some probing in Discord.