Agg had to make the second layer work first for SPL to even get off the ground. Imagine if Agg did not have to do all the leg work with Hive Engine or if he built SPL on polygon or wax instead where assets have more exposure and flexibility, it seems. Hive is a bit of a walled garden and hard to buy with other currencies with its main listing and trading volume in a south korean exchange that only south koreans can trade in.
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Firstly, neither Polygon or Wax existed at the time.
And then, much of the value used to create Splinterlands in the first place was derived directly from Hive (Steem at the time) through various means, including bidbots. And, the vast majority of early adopters went into Splinterlands because it was on the blockchain they use and have value, as well as the social capital built with Aggy and Matt over the years that garnered support - for example, I spoke to them both and had drinks with Aggy in Poland at SF3, as did many others. On other blockchains, they would have been starting from scratch and had none of the social trust built, nor personal relationships to help them get started.
People seem to forget this when they look back into the past using the filters of today.
Not sure why you think it is hard to trade, at least Binance has it paired with BT/ BUSD/ USDT there and Bittrex has pairings.
You need to be kyc'd for anything over 1700 bucks to buy Hive on blocktrades and binance is not a viable option in USA. People trying to dec or sps have been having a hell of a time just trying to buy it with their ETH or BTC. Agg has been been making mention of how obscure Hive is and how people are keep requesting for SPL to use other currencies that are easier to acquire.
Stealthex.io has hive and doesn't kyc beyond an email if you need help.
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Thanks!
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Use Bittrex for Hive - that is a US company - it also has HBD. If KYC is your issue, you are going to run into some troubles in the near future.
Also, you failed to address the other points at all. It seems to me like you hadn't considered the first four years of Splinterlands and how it came about. You might be new, I don't know.
You can be defensive all you want. I am not attacking you personally. Facts are facts.
WAX was created in 2019 if I remember, Polygon 2020 - If Aggy and Matt had built on them, they would be at least two years behind.
You are missing the point. Splinterlands is successful not because of hive the blockchain but because Agg and Matt created a killer product, have amazing vision and under estimated the amount of success and volume SPL would eventually have. Not to mention seeing value in the Hive community and capitalizing on the community, in a fair way. Yes the freemium structure, as Agg now puts it, has helped SPL but the isolated nature of the Hive blockchain is now holding SPL back, in my opinion.
What you are saying is exactly what I try to point out. As we all can see SPL is successful, however it is a standalone success story (or one of the few), and this is not prove at all that Hive as a base layer is working. I don't know what the work behind SPL was, and dont claim to understand, but your reasoning makes 100% sense. Hive is not a trash blockchain technically, wonderful things can be build on it, but it's economically broken (and most likely lacks application building support). As you point out they had to do a lot of groundwork. I get you man.
Also if I am not mistaken SPL was steemmonsters in the past. If so their killer product is basically NFTs, which is as we know is a mega killer product. I get you man, and you get it too.
It's unfortunate as I see you trying to give your view, you're being attacked by a large stake holder in the ecosystem. It would be much more wise of him (and most of the Hive community) to convert their defensive stance into actual listening. That's the start of true change, listening.
Lol. I think you are missing the point, it is a symbiotic relationship and without the community backing, the product would have very likely struggled to make an impact. Literally, tens of millions of dollars from Hive directly have been poured into the game in various ways and that is highly unlikely to have happened if they had built elsewhere. At the time, Steem was pretty much the only blockchain (or forks of Steem) that would be able to handle what they did...
How are cryptokitties going btw?