Why can’t I get upvotes on Hive?

in LeoFinance3 years ago

Why can’t I get upvotes on Hive?

Direct from the desk of Dane Williams.




Because you’re either not adding value or you’re not showing that you are to those with stake.

It’s as simple as that.

Every single day on the daily crypto blog or the community Discord, the same question flicks by.

“How can I get upvotes?”

Almost every one of those asking this question have their mind set on cutting corners and taking shortcuts.

Looking to paste their low quality, spammy content that adds zero ongoing value to Hive or the LeoFinance platform

Thinking that a whale with stake thinks their sob story is so much better than the 1000 others whose sob stories they’ve read that day.

There are no shortcuts to getting upvotes on Hive

If you’re struggling to get upvotes on Hive, stop trying to cut corners or ask for handouts.

Hive is a business.

Start treating it like one.

And like any business where money is at stake, all that matters is that you add value to the platform.

Then put that value which you’ve provided in front of those with stake.

You see, the Hive blockchain uses a system of stake weighted voting in order to distribute HIVE inflation via a daily rewards pool.

People stake their HIVE and therefore want to distribute a larger portion of new supply to those who are working to increase the value of their investment.

If you’re writing short, unformatted, random garbage and expecting to be rewarded, it’s just not going to happen.

Why would anyone who has invested and taken a stake in the platform, want to pay you to diminish the value of their investment?

It just doesn't make any sense!

If you want to get upvotes on Hive, you need to focus on producing quality content that adds value to the platform.

There’s no shortcuts to be taken if you want to build a consistent stream of income from your writing.

Write quality content.

Not all upvotes on Hive are created equal

So let’s now fast forward a little down the line.

I can already hear your next complaint, so let me answer it for you before you get a chance to blurt it out.

“I’m creating SEO optimised, well formatted, long form content that will add ongoing value to Hive and LeoFinance.”

“But I’m STILL not getting upvotes!”

“Why not?”

The bottom line is that you need to put yourself in front of those that matter.

And the only ones that matter in this regard are those already on the platform with stake.

You just have to remember that In Hive’s stake weighted voting system, 1000 upvotes from nobodies are worth less than 1 single upvote from a whale.

Those with stake are all that matter

The more significant their stake, the more important it is to be in front of them!

How, you ask?

Well think about this.

For every whale with stake who is actively searching for new, up and coming content creators who continue to add value to the platform, there are 10 either using an autovoter or lurking in their same closed circles.

So take the initiative!

They’re not going to magically find your work so make them find it instead.

It’s up to you to literally put your name and your content in front of them.

Comment on their content directly.

Jump into the comments section of the most popular blogs that they have commented on and add to the conversation.

Literally weave links to your content into the replies by placing them under relevant anchor text.

As long as it’s adding value and related, linking in this manner is actually encouraged as it will help Google index related our content quicker and ultimately drive more traffic to the domain.

Do everything in your power to make them see that your username is adding value to the platform and ultimately helping their investment.

I 100% guarantee that if you do this, those with stake will click your name to dig deeper into your content.

Where if it is the well formatted, value adding content that you say it is, they will upvote you.

Big, fat, juicy whale upvotes.

Best of probabilities to you.

PS. Sorry if I sound like a prick more abrasive today, it's been a long day.

I promise I'll reply to any questions you may have in the comments section in a nicer tone ;)

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Those with stake are all that matter

Another great, straight to the point, no fluff article, and even though I agree with every single word of this, I still want to add something:

While those with stake is all that matter in terms of you earning rewards or not, you never know who's vote that might end up being valuable.

For that reason, I personally think- and believe that everyone, especially newcomers, should always strive to build an audience, grow their followers and increase credibility and reputation on site.

In my opinion, I think that responding to comments on your own content is literally the first step of doing that. Going outside of your own content is the next step, but it's equally important as the first.

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...you never know who's vote that might end up being valuable.

Great point!

Someone with a huge stake might be best friends with someone that you strike up a conversation with.

They see it, engage and you strike up a connection that way.

Just gotta put yourself out there :)

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Or a small little fish/cub suddenly decides to invest because they see the awesome potential.

Might not be so realistic as what you said, but it's definitely something I am striving for to happen.

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99% of the people here with stake started as a n00b with 5 HP.

Who knows, your interaction could be what spurs the next whale to invest.

And then you have a ready made relationship!

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@hitmeasap was one of the first people I followed.

He wrote a post about how he pulled out some earnings and bought himself stuff (it was silly things like jeans and headphones and such) but it made me SEE that I could use this income to get my kids the extra "little stuff" that I thought I wanted to give them.

Then I totally turned on my kids and instead of providing them with little extras, I stopped buying them Friday Night Pizza's so I could invest in HIVE.

LOL

Still not sorry - I bought myself some bags.

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Exactly. I am not currently one, but I was a LEO whale in the past and I will be again ;-) In the meantime, I am still consuming and voting on content.

Those that catch my attention today get small upvotes, but I follow or remember them. Over time, they will continue to get my votes and those will gradually grow larger and larger. Then my vote recipients will be very happy, but they will have to stick it out to get there.

Beggers always get skipped by me. Seems harsh but I guess I am biased because of my upbringing (was always taught not to beg -- and I guess because of that it rubs me the wrong way).

Repeat beggers get put in the memory banks as losing all future chances. Not fair, but it is just how I am wired.

I myself post very little because I often don't think I have much to offer. I realize that I could get more revenue if I did, but don't want to put out lots of low value stuff. A reputation is hard to gain, but easy to lose.

As all above have said, comments are the best way to engage. People are much less judgemental of comments because they view them as a conversation and not a work to be graded. After all, it's just a conversation (and no one likes a conversation where all the other person does is beg them for something).

It is also easier to provide value in a conversation. Just listen and respond with something that shows you were interested and might be helpful or a fresh viewpoint.

Ironically I am ruining this conversation with my blathering :-) So I will go. Rant off!

This blog by the way @forexbrokr was awesome!

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People are much less judgemental of comments because they view them as a conversation and not a work to be graded. After all, it's just a conversation (and no one likes a conversation where all the other person does is beg them for something).

This is probably very true. I've never really looked at it like that, but I have been struggling more than once to create content because I haven't felt that it was good enough. I don't really care about that when it comes to comments, because I'm just basically telling people what's on my mind at that time.

I'll give the beggars an image to use ;)=

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Hahaha!!

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Everything is easier and better when it's a conversation. We were doing that for eons before we ever wrote a word :-)

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It sure is. Engagement is extremely important. I'm glad we have an active community here, but I wish people would step up their game a notch.

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Step up is very important and more also we need to be more creative and engage more and I guess some new members are novice and don't know about so many things on hive generally @hitmeasap

We seem to have a lot of activity recently though, so hopefully it continues in the same pace in the future as well. :)

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I'm looking forward to your triumphant return to LEO whaledom haha.

In the meantime, you should definitely create content if you want to.

You're obviously quite a good writer and with just a little structure, you would definitely not be spamming the community.

Do it!

PS. I just had a sneaky look at your wallet and damn I'm jealous of that LEOMM stack!

Did you buy them all early?

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Yes. :-) Not all at once, but definitely early. Posted about it early on.

https://leofinance.io/@steemstreems/7geqwr-my-stupendously-stupid-steemleo-success-strategy

One of my handful of existing posts.

Was about the only smart thing I have done on LEO in all this time. Of course I didn't know that for sure back then, but I thought it would be smart. Turns out it was. :-)

I have been a LEO believer since it started.

Wish I'd have bought more of course :-)

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Ha, it makes me smile going back and reading those old posts.

Also fun reading all the comments from people agreeing.

Some who now have a huge stake themselves and some... who didn't take their own advice and missed out (awks haha).

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Makes me realize that I need to go back and revise my LEO plans. Lots has changed :-)

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Many of the people I vote for now earned my following when my upvote was worth 0.02 - now my vote is wort .30 + tokens.

So while I still can't support families on my upvote, I can add to the piggy bank with the fat coins as opposed to the pennies.

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One day your vote will support families. Actually a couple of your 0.30 votes will and probably is supporting a family right now.

Thing is, you may never know if you have supported families, but that's ok, because you will have and that family will know.

Maybe that family will go on and support other families in turn with their LEO, once again without even knowing. It's a really neat and virtuous cycle.

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Thanks for that reminder.

Being in California, it gets easy to forget that you are a part of a world wide economy.

I found that over time people's audiences can grow in stake value to. If we are all growing together, then our votes become more valuable over time.

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Do everything in your power to make them see that your username is adding value to the platform and ultimately helping their investment.

This sums it up nicely, in my opinion. If people see your name often enough, they will eventually notice you and remember you the next time they stumble upon one of your posts. Most (if not all whales) have a number of reasons why they want to see Hive and its tribes grow so if they perceive you as a value-generating agent, they will most likely support and upvote your content, provided it meets minimum quality criteria.

As long as it’s adding value and related, linking in this manner is actually encouraged as it will help Google index related our content quicker and ultimately drive more traffic to the domain.

This is a great tip! I don't think I do this enough, actually. I'll keep that in mind next time I think one of my articles can contribute to a conversation.

!hivebits

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It takes some of us longer than others to remember your name.

Of course, it takes me a while to remember what I had for lunch yesterday.

Actually I often cant remember but then is it really that important after the fact?

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Hahah not important at all

I often have the same issue

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Very correct I think it is very important to keep posting and make useful comment and if not notice don't give up keep doing the good work and maybe someday one will get noticed @taskmaster4450le

It's a numbers game, and @forexbrokr is showing us how to make the numbers work in our favor with the advice he provides in this post. @taskmaster4450le can confirm this from his vantage point, and other Hivers can confirm this from how much they improved by heeding their advice.

For some people the effects will be immediate, and for others it will take longer. Sooner or later, the numbers move in our favor. When this happens, we keep moving forward with the advice. In this way, we all benefit.

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Good one friend I hope things change for better and I really want to be a part of this improvement @magnacarta

You've made numerous comments just in this post, to you're already part of the improvement! Post the best you can when you can, but engage relentlessly where the people happen to be.

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Thanks for the information @magnacarta

Your content itself is already well structured and optimised for SEO.

But yep, if you have talked about a related topic, don't be shy to link to it in the comments of another blog that is getting more exposure.

Obviously don't be an annoying spammer begging for a vote, but just subtly include it under relevant anchor text and explain your point of view in a constructive way.

It will both help you get more eyeballs on your content and the domain with SEO.

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Oh that´s nice to know, I've been doing my best to make them a little better :)

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I am still stuck in the old HIVE culture of it being RUDE to leave your link on someone else's posts.

In a way, we are all competing for that upvote so leaving competition on my post can be seen as, well, rude.

BUT

Its time we start thinking big picture, and relevant links are good for SEO

Thanks for the reminder, the blockchain evolves and so do our habits.

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It is not an easy task to add value to hive, but it is achievable. If you put in the effort you will see upvotes coming in in the long run.
Some things you can do to get more people to see your content:

  • share on social media
  • promote with listnerds
  • commenting on other authors posts
  • making guides is a great way to add value
  • genuine unique content without copy pasted shitcontent helps a lot
  • use some of your income to promote your post on the frontends
  • engagement, engagement, engagement

There are lots of ways to add value.

Often the best is to engage in the comment section of other people's posts. That can really enhance what is being created.

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Does it pay to upvote a post that's beyond the 7-day payout window? There won't be any LEO or HIVE involved then, but should we still upvote older posts anyway for the sake of making ourselves visible?

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Great list of tips!

I've actually just started using the promote function on the LeoFinance front-end.

Burn LEO, burnnnnn!

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Using Ecency, a 7-day promotion costs 500 Ecency Points, which is roughly worth 1 HIVE.

Using LEO to promote the same post at LeoFinance, it's still worth whatever amount of LEO equals 1 HIVE. There's no set fee schedule for promoting a LeoFinance post, but that's the math I use.

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How have your ecency promotions treated you?

I used a boost the other day and was happy to get an upvote.

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Ecency promotions have been more helpful than not. Many upvotes I get are due to them, which is why I use them. However, there is minimal overlap between Ecency users and LeoFinance users; I thought the overlap would be greater. Ecency promotions are a great marketing tool, but relying on it primarily is not enough.

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Of course not.

Back in the day we used to be plagued with boosts and upvoting schemes and it made things very... spammy.

We had to learn to grow beyond the bots even though it was so much easier to work with them.

If promotion is used for your own content, then is boosting for someone else's content? I hadn't boosted, so I wasn't sure what that did.

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Hive is a business.

So many people don't understand this because when they introduce them to hive the idea of you will make money is always there not proper orientation. When you see hive as proper working place putting in your best all the time by posting quality content and engaging well you will definitely see improvement

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Thinking about Hive like a business is a good way of going about things.

You want upvotes from people who have taken a stake in the platform by buying HIVE and powering it up.

They haven't done so to lose money, so want to see value being added.

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That's the way to go and been serious with hive the goal. Focus on hive like my life depends on it

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Putting on the business cap is a good step to make. There is money on the line and many different ways to go about it.

However, we have to take ownership of what is taking place.

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Isn't this part of acquiring an ownership mentality, or at least understanding what the ownership mentality expects from us?

I'm asking because after I saw you mention the term a few times I began doing off-chain research. I will not say I went down the rabbit hole since that implies it took me deeper into nowhere and that's not true. However, I need time to review what I had discovered off-chain before I can make sense of it and apply it here.

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It is a simple concept.

You own shares in LEO. Every time you earn another token, you earn another share in the company.

Since you own it, everything you do to help it grow, or tend to it is having the ownership mentality.

You can help grow your business, (the LEO business) by writing great articles, or engaging in a manner that makes people want to stay, you can talk about it to real life people.

Basically anything you do to tend to your LEO garden is taking ownership.

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Since you own it, everything you do to help it grow, or tend to it is having the ownership mentality.

In terms of USD, LEO is my greatest Layer 2 investment. Outside Hive blockchain, my greatest holdings are now in CUB. I've been shifting assets around to focus on these two priorities. Even the diesel pools I'm in are geared to supporting these priorities.

You can help grow your business, (the LEO business) by writing great articles, or engaging in a manner that makes people want to stay, you can talk about it to real life people.

I want to say I write great articles, but that's not for me to say. As Bill Parcells keeps saying, "you are what your record says you are." This means I'm not there yet and have more work to do.

I want to say that I engage in a manner that makes people want to stay, or at least join, or join and stay. Here I may be more successful, even if I come off as being a bit eccentric or "off".

Talking to real life people is something I need to do more of for certain. At least in my area I know that I know more about crypto than many people, and I'm trying to distill that knowledge into a series of "elevator pitches" to get people to consider what I say after we meet. With all we have to deal with in our lives these days, time is even more precious than before and I don't want to waste their time with 5-minute presentations when they can only spare 30 seconds. Here, I need to get my own head clear before I can proceed.

The employee mentality won't get us anywhere no matter what activity we do in life. I'm still at a manager mentality where doing more gets me more than an employee, but essentially that just means i'm a better-compensated employee. Ownership mentality is where true changes can be found and made.

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Some of the people here are mere employees.

They take their wages and leave.

Me, I am an OWNER.

Regarding your articles not being "good enough," there is always room for improvement of course, but more important is bumping into people who like what you have to offer just as it comes.

It is easy for a first grader to be a mentor to a kindergardner sort of thinking.

You already have a wealth of knowledge its just about finding the people who could use that wealth.

I have some CUB too -but I bought in when it was like 2.00 USD and again when it was like 0.65 so I am trying not too look at it too much - though I should make sure everything is staked...

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It is easy for a first grader to be a mentor to a kindergardner sort of thinking.

A few people come to LeoFinance (and Hive) already being "high schoolers" in terms of crypto knowledge and experience, and there are Leos (and Hivers) who provide content at that level.

More Leos come here at a lower level of knowledge. Last year I was one of them. This year I have enough knowledge to offer those coming after me. During the course of the next year we'll both advance in knowledge together. If I repeat this long enough, I'll be one of the "high schoolers" while today's "high schoolers" are "undergraduates" in crypto.

I have some CUB too -but I bought in when it was like 2.00 USD and again when it was like 0.65 so I am trying not too look at it too much - though I should make sure everything is staked...

It's not looking good for CUB these days, with an ATL around the corner each day. However, CUB is the foundation for PolyCub and future projects involving CUB on THORChain and Fantom and who knows what else. The ATLs will stop, and the price rises will resume. Future airdrops will be based in part on what's in Cub Finance on BSC along with POLYCUB at PolyCub. It's not often we get a chance to start over or just start fresh, and we can do that now with CUB.

I want to be as optimistic about POB, but I'm not hearing anything about what's happening there. At least I have hope with CUB, even if hope isn't enough reason to hit that large flashing BUY button.

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Lol...sometimes you've got to be blunt, so don't apologise, its all good. You are right though, constructive, positive commenting is definitely the key!

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constructive, positive commenting is definitely the key!

Yes, always aim to keep it positive.

When it comes to Hive, the reality is that we're after upvotes from those with stake.

Stake that means big upvotes, but also big downvotes.

Play the political game and stroke their ego.

Don't tell them how everything they do is wrong... even if it is haha.

As a smaller account, you will always lose the argument.

Play the game ;)

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please upvote me dear, i will kindly upvote you

HIVE blogging really is about quality content and name recognition. If you blog daily long enough and remain posting quality content, people with bigger stakes will more quickly click that upvote button. If you're reliable enough, sometimes they will autovote, knowing you're not wasting space on the blockchain. Build a following based on trust - trust that you're contributing content consistently that the stake holder wants to promote and see on the chain. This is the key to success here.

But don't try to PANDER to them, that's impossible to maintain and will be recognized as phony. Be yourself, be real, don't back down posting your opinions and content. Be consistent and build trust in your name.

When I see content from the desk of Dane Williams, I know I won't be wasting my time reading, or my vote upvoting.

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HIVE blogging really is about quality content and name recognition. If you blog daily long enough and remain posting quality content, people with bigger stakes will more quickly click that upvote button. If you're reliable enough, sometimes they will autovote, knowing you're not wasting space on the blockchain. Build a following based on trust - trust that you're contributing content consistently that the stake holder wants to promote and see on the chain. This is the key to success here.

Perfectly put.

Our Hive accounts all have an unspoken social reputation that in the long run, leads to earning upvotes (money).

Like you said, earn the community's trust and the upvotes you receive will go up alongside your social rep!


Okay, next part...

Haha, maybe you can set me straight here.

I take it that calling someone 'dear' in certain cultures is used in place of how we'd say 'mate' or 'pal'?

Reading it in comments always makes me laugh because all I can think of is my grandfather talking to grandma: "Yes dear, I'd love a cuppa!"

When I see content from the desk of Dane Williams, I know I won't be wasting my time reading, or my vote upvoting.

Thanks for upvoting dear, I will kindly upvote you.

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This is amazing content, I got to learn this pretty fast and gradually discover what worked for me because even though someone has amazing content, if it is hidden, it wouldn't be valued.

Yep, it's all about making your content as visible as possible.

Like you said, hidden content does nothing for you or the platform itself.

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Exactly,.

Get active and be involved. And put up stuff that adds to what is going on.

That is the major take away.

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I try to do that but I know that sometimes I get a bit comfortable or lost, but ill keep doing all these.

Thank you.

Task and chinco's advice is great.

Put yourself out there by adding value and whales will notice you.

If they haven't noticed you yet, then keep putting yourself out there by adding value.

It will come.

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Or you can also catch the attention of a community.

For example, getting upvotes from the #needleworkmonday crew for sharing needle related arts is just as nice as getting upvoted by a whale.

Communities have clout here.

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Eventually, it just takes time and effort like all good things.

And get in front of whales, hehehe

When it comes to establishing a niche, we have to be where others are not. This is how we differentiate ourselves from everyone else as we determine our own Unique Selling Propositions. What makes us different from everyone else.

When it comes to earning upvotes, however, we have to be where the people are-- and not just any people, but people with stake. It sounds obvious, but it is true.

From my own experience, I can say that it was working for me for a while. Then it stopped working for me, and now I know why. Somewhere along the line I strayed from this advice. Thanks for the reminder.

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Can I ask you a random off topic question haha?

I see you've invested in CARTEL.

Are you happy and would you recommend?

I kinda feel like I've missed the boat, but I'd like to get some exposure.

Definitely one of the cooler projects here in Hive.

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While CARTEL is an up-and-coming project on the gaming side of things here, I missed the boat there as well.

I invested in CARTEL purely to save on swap fees when using Cartel.Swap as a vehicle to go between SWAP.HIVE and HIVE as well as between SWAP.HBD and HBD. The USP was that CARTEL owners save on fees on a sliding scale based on the amount of CARTEL they own. Anyone who owns 100 CARTEL pays ZERO swap fees. However, 1 CARTEL costs roughly 5 HIVE.

Since I bought my 5 CARTEL the other day, I haven't had a chance to use Cartel.Swap, so I don't know what it's like to use.

I used to think BRO was expensive, until I discovered CARTEL!

Seriously, though, Cartel.Swap is what got me into CARTEL, and it's an interesting use case for a token meant for supporting a mini-ecosystem for Hive gaming. Also, Cartel.Swap can be used to manage swaps for other tokens as a 3rd party provided that the Cartel gets a cut of the TX fees. Think of Tesla making money off carbon credits rather than EVs.

CARTEL has value on its own, and Cartel.Swap adds more value to the token. It's not cheap, but I will buy more CARTEL bit by bit; staking BXT to receive daily HIVE rewards is more up my alley. However, with the recent push to have Hivers buy HBD for placement into savings for a 20% APR, Cartel.Swap is another way capitalizing on this push. It's a genius move by @flauwy and the team behind 1UP.

For me, CARTEL is a long-term play just because it will take me a long time to reach 100 CARTEL. Nevertheless, it will pay off even if I never use Cartel.Swap. Of more immediate concern to me is sweeping CUB off the floor of ATL after ATL as fast as I can and HODL while it recovers to what it was just when 2022 began (never mind its ATH in 2020).

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Hey @forexbrokr, I just thought of something more you could cover in this:

  • When to post.

I mean, you are obviously 100% correct that you need to create something of value. Something that others will value enough so they decide to reward it.

If no one is there to read your posts, you won't get any upvotes though. So even though you need to work hard to put your name and content in front of people by creating valuable content, you also need luck & timing. All your hard work prior to you creating posts, can reduce the amount of luck & timing you need though. But as a complete newcomer, I would definitely say that they need some luck on top of the other things you've mentioned. Especially as the competition is rather fierce.

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Yeah, nice idea.

Surely someone else has done the stats to figure out what time of day is best to post for maximum upvotes?

Maybe a dalz stats post or something?

But my quick advice would be to just have a routine and stick to it.

If you post daily, always post at the same time so your followers know what to expect.

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Thank you for this. And true, with lots of contents created daily, we do need to do the work to get noticed.

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Comment. Comment. Comment.

It is the key to open up many magical doors on Hive and Leofinance.

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Thank you, I take that from you and we will do that.

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It is what I do and it seems to work.

My name appears in a few places on Leofinance.

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Yes, and so we are going to keep learning from you and follow your footsteps, hehe

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I hope so. Nothing would make me happier. It is a privilege to share what I learned and to have people focusing upon engagement.

We need more questions asked so the information being shared can help others too.

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Thank you indeed for all you do. And sharing your know-hows even if we don't ask the right questions.

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Yeah I've seen you around here before...

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How underrated is reblogging as a way to engage or open magical doors? It should be part of any strategy we use to seek upvotes, but I'm not sure how it compares with commenting.

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reblogging simply makes it so your followers can see the articles somebody else wrote.

It used to be an important part of curation, back when curation was stupid (there were weights and if you voted first you got more curation rewards than others) and you wanted people to vote on content after you did.

Reblogging is engagement and all forms of engagement can be turned into a strategy.

Do some experiments, let us know how magical this reblogging thing is.

I look forward to seeing your post.

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Reblogging also let's my followers know that they're my followers! So reblogging is a reminder that I'm out there even if I'm not posting as often as I would like. And reblogging is a form of "let me help me help you" in getting their name out there more, right?

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Yeah, and it might get you followers too - because you reblog such good content.

I'd love to read a post about where that's taking you.

We should take advantage of all the tools we have at our disposal.

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Looks like you've caught the eye of the great whale Task!

;)

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I did? Wow, that's cool, lol! I look up to you guys, and I almost teased him 'coz he is like a bot. He's fast and all around engaging.

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Have you seen his videos where he wears those sunglasses?

I mean we haven't seen his eyes to actually confirm if he is a human...

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Hahaha, I did. I was to ask too if he could remove them for a while, lol! I think he's a bot, LOL!

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Thanks for this suggestion. As a newbie, I was looking for the answers and you just fulfilled my desire. I promise I will do what you said here. Best wishes for you.

Spend twice as much time commenting as you do on post creating.

That is the secret.

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I see that Task just spilled the secret in the comment above ;)

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These are all valid points. I also see people just posting in random communities, where their content isn't relative or tagging too many different communities at once. In particular, the OCD Curators don't like that.

Found your post via ListNerds :)

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Tag spamming.

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Okay... Are you saying that because I'm mentioning where I found the content from? Please clarify.

I also see people just posting in random communities, where their content isn't relative or tagging too many different communities at once.

Task means that what you've described here is called "tag spamming".

Obviously this is not adding value and something curators look out for.

My own rule of thumb when tagging is to try and use 5 relevant topic tags and then 5 related or general community tags.

The first 5 tags are key for helping curators find relevant content and Google ultimately crawl our front-end domains.

The second 5 are to help with getting noticed for upvotes because different communities sort their content differently.

Take a look at how I've tagged this one for example.

But yeah, just don't spam random shit like tagging food content with LeoFinance.

It's all common sense stuff!

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But yeah, just don't spam random shit like tagging food content with LeoFinance.

That could actually work, if you talked about the costs of ingredients or whatever. lol

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Haha, don't encourage them!! ;)

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no for real. Once of the most interesting things for me is seeing what money is like in other places.

Like the other day I saw JackFruit for sale for $2.50 here I would pay $40 for it.

Back in the day the @steemitmamas would post about their meals and how much it cost - it was very eye opening.

So like me, here in SoCal, everytime I admit how much I spend on food (at least $1200 per month) someone here has something to say about how expensive that is and someone else is gonna tell me how cheap that is.

Really, encourage the food/money posts, for ME!

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The Hive will be a long-term journey waiting to be discovered. It's important to learn new things every day and move forward on the road. Thanks for the very informative and informative content.

Long term focus and consistent action.

Those are the keys.

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Happy to hear you found it informative ;)

Definitely keep putting yourself out there by adding value and good things will come.

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Nice avatar and good photo won't hurt as well.
Sounds weird but it's true.

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How did it feel finally getting the acorn? The last Ice Age movie he finally caught it!

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Really? I just watched the first part.

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He finally got it

Haha, congrats @oldtimer! ;)

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Headings in posts also help. Easier to upvote something when it is easy to read. Especially as I get older, well more accurately my eyes.

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Yep, nobody wants to read a block of text.

Subheadings, short sentences/paragraphs, dot points.

They all make content more readable and therefore of higher value.

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Without a doubt. People need to be able to move quickly through the post. If not, they will move on.

I know I do that.

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Nice point.

It's all about building your personal brand so you get recognised in the future as that guy who adds value.

  • Username
  • Photo
  • Signature
  • Style
  • Niche

It all helps.

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Ya know what Dane, even if you did sound like a Prick. And I did not think you did. You told it strait. More people need to read this. I have done a lot of bad posts. It takes time, it takes effort, it takes showing up everyday. I know, you know, we did not get to the point we are today with out effort.

You have to learn, and learn from others and people should learn from your post.

Fantastic job.

!BBH

!ALIVE

P.S. Came here from ListNerds

In terms of the quality of our writing, it's like anything - Just takes time, effort and practice.

You're putting in the time and even from the short time I've been reading your work since I've been on ListNerds, you've improved.

(I mean even little things like how those images displayed. Much better now!)

Thanks for taking the time to let me know mate.

It's much appreciated :)

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My pleasure, and thanks for the positive feedback 😀

!BBH

!ALIVE

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Because this is such an awesome post, here is a BBH Tip for you. . Keep up the fantastic work

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Engagement is key, if one wants upvotes and interaction they must provide the same to like minded content creators. Personally I don't focus on the rewards too much. Instead I try to create a successful blog of interaction via the comment section. Create multiple posts that get dozens of comments and someone with stake is bound to take notice.

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Create multiple posts that get dozens of comments and someone with stake is bound to take notice.

The winning formula right here.

If your content is good enough to be generating discussion, then it's driving traffic and thus value.

Keep it up!

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This is what I've been trying to figure out. People read my posts because I get comments and I engage with readers. After a while, that's it.

Once I get through the comments of this post, I'll take the advice I find here and in the daily comment strategy post and see the effect they have on my posts. The missing link for me is in these 2 posts.

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Great post I think there are some shortcuts like adding @null or hive funder as 100% beneficiary or powering up say 1 million HP, people will flock to you with votes in hopes to get yours, there are whales that still shit post and earn $50-100 per shit post with auto votes coming in the first hour. !1UP !PIZZA !PGM !lolz !giphy no shortcuts

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I still think that those whales who shitpost to take advantage of the system will get fucked in the end.

If they're literally sucking value from the platform, then other whales with stake are going to take notice and step in to protect their own investment.

It's all about adding value!

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Indeed, this is all very true!

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Don't apologize, Dane. Topics like this are not effective when you sugarcoat them. Sometimes people need to hear the harsh reality of the world.

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Someone best to slap people in the fast with a wet fish.

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Haha John, you know the youths today get offended by things a lot easier ;)

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it also seems like a lot of the established accounts have a bunch of autovotes for anything they post and those autovoters are not manually curating

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I have a list of bloggers on an autovoter called HiveVote.

These are those that I trust to consistently post quality content and I therefore want to support them no matter what.

I keep the settings set to only vote once per 24 hours so nobody can just go rogue and drain my votes haha.

But I do think it's important to fully support certain authors who are showing up every day no matter what and adding value.


Interesting to note that the last addition to my autovoter was @jerrythefarmer.

His content is excellent and he's always in my comments and the comments on the LMT daily blog.

So I see it ALL THE TIME and just had to add it.

He is pretty much a perfect case study for getting votes on Hive.

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Can confirm. If you have something to bring to the table and can do it fairly consistently the votes keep piling up.

Thanks for the vote of confidence btw!

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That is true. However, in the tribes there is a lot less of that.

At some point, the focus is going to shift away from (primarily on) Hive to other communities. That is when we will know another transition was made.

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I think what you are saying carries a lot of weight, one need to engage and build a network and keep on working on it then you will reap the rewards!!

Comment. Comment. Comment.

Not sure how many different ways there is to say it.

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Agreed!!

Yep, from engagement comes your network which you can rely on.

Hive is unique in this way when compared to other cryptocurrencies because your account also has a social value.

A reputation if you will.

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Any newbie scanning through the comment section - you have to be really smart if you want upvotes early in your journey. If you want to be smart, re-read Dane's blog and follow what he says. :)

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Dane increases the IQ of the average person by .5 per post.

Read a few dozen and you will be really smart.

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Okay okay, this sounds like you're both begging for upvotes ;)

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As evidenced by my track record with women, I am not above begging.

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With a LEO stack as big as yours, you surely level move up from begging for women to now just paying for women ;)

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Not abrasive at all. I have been thinking the same thing. I might write a post about it myself tomorrow. This has been front and center of my mind for quite some time now.

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I might write a post about it myself tomorrow.

Write two. It is allowed.

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:) thanks, as long as I have your permission!

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There you go.

Added value to the conversation by leaving your opinion on the topic.

Then got me to click your profile and read your post.

Which was of course great and made me upvote.

This is the way!

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Thank you!

it's quite an interesting view isn't it. I have been around for 4 years now starting on 0 and just working my way. Over that period I have grown my stack and the people I used to follow have also grown.

Before I used to watch people complain about others, now I see people complain about me and the people who grew along side me.

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Honestly mate, your growth here has been awesome to watch.

Definitely can inspire some n00bs to follow a similar path of just picking a niche, writing quality content and engaging around it.

You're one of the best on LeoFinance and I always try and upvote your content each day.

The only reason I don't have you on my once a day autovoter is because you sometimes put content in those other tribes and I miss out on the LEO curation rewards if it happens to vote those.

Maybe splitting that stuff to another account is something to consider going forward?

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Thank you, I am glad you enjoy the posts it has also been a growth experience for me.

I have tried splitting accounts but then the new account gets missed because no one knows it 😞 you'll get a nice ROI on some of those other community posts some do well. But yes, automatic vote can be hard on the days that I do two posts. I've been less frequent in the other groups as I don't want to sack up all the rewards.

Over that period I have grown my stack and the people I used to follow have also grown.

And as their stack grew, they are helping to keep growing your stack. Amazing how that works.

Before I used to watch people complain about others, now I see people complain about me and the people who grew along side me.

Isnt that interesting. You put in the work and achieve success and other complain about you. Of course, they believe you were "lucky".

It just shows why most are destined to NOT be successful in life. They spend too much time complaining.

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Yup correct, it baffles me..when people see others earning $100 they shouldn't get jealous. They should look to see what others are doing and build their business (that's what this account is) and start working.

Use others success as a visual goal.

Try to motivate yourself to reach higher levels. That is what I always try to do.

Like you said, use others success to motivate oneself.

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Yup that is great advice! I'm sure as long as I keep plugging along I will eventually get there.

More so because as I grow so too does everyone else around me. We'll get there eventually.

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Throw in the second layer rewards and that can really add up. Some of our followers might not big with HIVE but huge with CTP or LEO.

That can make a difference also.

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Yup that's true. Although second Layer tokens been taking a hit lately. Look at VYB :( 😞 ah well. They don't all work out.

ok, but we have to admit that buying HIVE at 0.13 was just a little lucky.

But blogging through 0.13 cent hive was NOT luck, that was sheer HARD work (not really but, yeah).

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It must feel nice to be complained about. Its like winning an award, like you finally got somewhere.

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In my opinion, there isn't a way but ways to get upvotes . For instance, there are people who make low-quality content but still get support based on their other off-chain activities. I guess these are the people the newbies look up to and want to replicate their success.

"if he or she can shit post her way to the top, so can I"

However, if there is anything I can say after years of being on this platform, those who put in the work and genuinely care about what is being built here last. So it is left to all of us to choose our path.

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Dedication is the first thing people have to prove. We saw so many come to Hive, post for a while, get rewards, and disappear.

Those who show they are in for the long haul will have the attention of many of the heavy hitters.

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For instance, there are people who make low-quality content but still get support based on their other off-chain activities. I guess these are the people the newbies look up to and want to replicate their success.

"if he or she can shit post her way to the top, so can I"

Just tag @trumpman haha ;)

Yeah he shitposts, but remember that he's put his money where his mouth is and taken a SHITLOAD of stake.

Also not to mention his work that adds value for Hive/LeoFinance off-chain.

He's shown the value he adds and built relationships in his own way.

And is therefore worth every upvote on a shitpost you send his way :)

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And every chain needs one clown.

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Even strategic shit-posting is more rewarding than blind shit-posting. Not everyone can succeed as shit-posters.

For anyone wishing to pursue that path, see who has mastered it and follow that person's techniques.

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well said. At the end of the day, we all need to know what works and how to apply those strategies--that work. For instance, I cannot afford to be a shit poster. I do not have that luxury. I need to put out sensible/relatable content so I can get engagement and upvotes. For some people, their reputation and stake do the work for them. So in summary, know what will work for you

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It seems like you're shouting. Lol. But yeah, you're totally right. It's expected we put ourselves out there and not sit, waiting for the whales to find us.

He is only shouting because most are not listening. LOL

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😄😄 I hope they can hear clearly now.

But I didn't post in all caps ;)

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I agree with you.
Hive is a business, the fact that it pays for one's content proves that it is a business....and like every other business, consistency is required, and it's not just about being consistent alone.

One needs to make sure that the time they spend here is worth it. One needs to improve themselves.

This is something that pays and it's also a reflection of who is so apart from bringing down the value of the platform, you're also tarnishing your reputation if you keep posting trashy content.

There is joy when you do what's worth doing, well. Keep learning, improve your self, think, and make sure your content has value before hitting on the publish button.

Even if you feel you're giving your all and you're not recognised, don't stop, rated be persistent and consistent.

People spend years developing a following on traditional social media. Yet on Hive, they expect it to come to them in two posts.

Mind boggling.

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Mind boggling.

😅

This is one reason why I get so upset when people around me tell me I'm always "pressing my phone".

The statement get me so upset that I had to put out a public notice that I won't be gentle or polite with whoever stresses me with the word again.

I'd rather they ask me what it is I am always doing and I will politely explain it to them.

Each time I write I always have to think about what to write from the title to the body of the post, I think about how to construct my words on the post, how to edit and format my post, the kind of images to use, and I have to proofread it again before finally publishing it. I must do my best to make sure that all I do is worth it. So when people around don't understand and just conclude it gets me upset. Sometimes I wonder if it's because I'm not doing it with a PC that would make it look professional.
Above all, I don't even care.

That is what it takes. Effort to be dedicated and serious. No different than anywhere else. When one is trying to establish a brand, what are they creating?

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because its crypto.

wen moon?

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Add the fact that those with stake that you're trying to get upvotes from, have spent their hard earned money to buy HIVE off the market.

They don't want that investment to be wasted and therefore want to see value being added to the platform that will ultimately increase its associated token price.

Thanks for stopping by and adding your 2c :)

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Thank you for your contribution.

I actually have a question I have always wanted to ask you:

Who do you think is the better goalkeeper. My cousin Karar or my cousin Baqir?

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I haven't seen either play, but rumour has it that the better keeper is Baqir.

Supposedly, Karar has far superior ball playing ability and distribution.

But from what I've heard, Baqir's pure shot stopping ability and athleticism that allows him to recover and make key double saves, puts the man on another level.

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Not sounding like a prick at all, just wish I read this sooner.

On the other hand, I kinda knew this already. I just focussed on growing on other platforms first. Why? Because Hive and Leo need just a bit more work and attention and I had a lot to learn. But as I grew up on other platforms I am now ready to focus on the real deal and see if I can also become a household name on HIVE and LEO .....

I am giving myself a year and after that year let´s see if I notice the difference. (I think I already notice some difference and I just started )

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Alright, you've got me intrigued.

I've given you a follow and looking forward to following your journey on LeoFinance.

You can obviously write and market yourself, so I'm keen to see how you can use those skills to add value to the platform ;)

See you around!

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Well those of us who were here realized that Hive and Leo did need work and we were willing to do it.

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And even when we spend months off chain, we talk about our HIVE and LEO to randos on the street and some of those randos actually make it here.

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This write up is really helpful thanks @forexbrokr for sharing.
Hive is really an investment and should be treated like one.

An investment of time. That is the most important thing to take away. Once cannot be successful on here without that.

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Yeah time and hardwork

Time is money in the end ;)

It all comes back around!

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Yeah 👍

And while people in LEO with Stake have their differences I think the one thing they ALL have in common is that NONE of them are in the remotest bit interested in posts about 'crypto and religion', even if they were well formatted and in correct English.

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I am. Crypto became the ideal religion for me.

I kneel at the Alter of Satoshi. Or is it Dan Larimer?

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Case closed!

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Well, @edicted's moon cycles would come pretty close.

That shit is whack ;)

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Hahaha

Edicted as a moon god

I like his posts even if they leave my head spinning.

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IDK what you are talking about. Now I want to read about crypto and religion.

Find the crypto in the bible, I bet you CAN!

I am not "religious" but seriously, I got curious... lol.

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I've got to admit I'm kind of curious too!

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Why can’t I get upvotes on Hive?

Because you havent left 5,000 comments on Hive/Leofinance.

Do that and I guarantee upvotes will follow. Hell I would probably upvote a few of them myself. LOL

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The change to not financially penalise those upvoting comments has been one of the best things to happen on Hive.

Encourages engagement and everyone (including the platform due to added exposure) wins!

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Yes it was a great move. Next up, get rid of the dust level which could help really small accounts.

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What's the reason for not paying dust?

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Until then, they can use @dustsweeper - it was a really important service when I was working on getting to 500 HIVE POWER

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I use both @dustsweeper and @dustbunny. They're both so important to me that I delegated some HP to each. Occasionally @dustsweeper sends me drips of HIVE.

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There are no real shortcuts and I have to agree that you need to show your own value first. Things didn't take off for me until I started commenting.

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The master of building a personal brand via engagement himself :)

Someone needs to write a case-study on your Hive journey.

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A case study would probably be tough. What else would they say outside of me commenting? I think it's a bit rough because most of my posts is about games lol.

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While most of your engagement activity comes from commenting, you still produce posts frequently. That's not easy to do, and I know I've tried to keep up.

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I have to say there's been a few times where new people jumped into LEO or even Hive and they provided quality content. However they sold everything lol idk just something to me when I see someone powering down huge amounts and not staking any just feels like an exit and not really providing value to the platform so my vote weight either stops for that person or is greatly diminished.

I feel like I've been here from the very start with a year break however due to the mess that happened. But all that time it was about working with others, building content and commenting on others as well as voting for others. There's a lot more to Hive/Leo besides simply writing great content and expecting people to come.

The whole "Build it and they will come" just doesn't work. It takes consistency, quality and willingness to devote time, money and resources to something. This is a growing business when you think about it.

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Great point!

And yep, I have had exactly the same experience with who I choose to support with my own upvotes.

Now I get that we're all here to make money... and the only way to make money is to cash out.

That's the ultimate goal.

But you can definitely make money and still show you support the future of the platform by taking a stake.

If you truly do believe in the long term value of Hive/LeoFinance, then you will want to keep that initial investment anyway.

It's what's going to allow you to earn an income off the top after all!

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The whole "Build it and they will come" just doesn't work. It takes consistency, quality and willingness to devote time, money and resources to something. This is a growing business when you think about it.

Many people have that attitude in Web 1.0 and Web 2.0, and they fail there, too. Marketing needs to be involved, yet it's a skill people haven't acquired. It's an underrated skill, yet it's what's needed to grow any business of any kind.

At least for tokenized blogging, it helps to have a built-in audience; we just have to put ourselves out there consistently and provide value as best as we can to our fellow Hivers and Leos. Relentless engagement is how we do most of our marketing here, but other forms or marketing exist as well; we should learn those skills too.

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Well, you sure sound like a ... making a lot of points there.

It's all about adding value and mix that with your creativity, recycling content esp trending ones is a nice idea but then it's boring... Adding value to Hive can be done in a lot of ways, you just have to find what best works for you.

Great advice...get there..in front of their faces...I think that's what a lot of us are doing wrong... we're hiding in shadows thinking these votes would find us...ómo..they wouldn't unless we go after them..

Thanks for fueling me up @forexbrokr ❤️

I find the concept that each Hive account has a social value based on your own personal brand, really interesting.

Like all other cryptocurrency wallets are just strings of numbers and nobody cares who they are or what they have to offer.

But on Hive, people know those who spam and those who add value and they ultimately are rewarded for it in the end.

Deep haha.

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My exact heart desires written out for me to read. Hehehe.

It truly is the little things in life ;)

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I have taken q break from hive about twice in the little time I've been here. Both time, I actually thought of quitting because I wasn't getting upvotes and those that I got, had little to nothing in terms of value. But, reading this now, I see what I can do a little differently. Hopefully, it works for me.

I'd recommend trying to pick a more focused niche for your writing.

Then write daily posts on that same topic, always engaging with others talking about the same thing.

Consistency is key and you will ultimately build a following this way.

All the best mate!

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This is a word of wisdom that both newbie and even old members need to read, i got some useful information from it as well....

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Thanks for taking the time to stop by and let me know that you got something from my post.

Much appreciated :)

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I don't think you came off abrasive at all here. I've been noticing that my upvotes are going down recently on my content.

So either my content sucks more now or I've just pissed off too many people. I do like to highlight issues I see and debunk commonly repeated misconceptions people cling to. I don't do it to be negative but to alert people so a difference can be made and we all prosper.

I could see where that would not be in the best interest of the whales to upvote my content.

Oh well, I'll keep trying.

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Whatever is going on with your tags are definitely having an effect.

Your content is as good as it has ever been, don't worry about that.

(I mean opinions and pissing people off drives engagement and makes money - Hence Facebook's algo haha!!)

But you've generated a bit of a following on LeoFinance and when the tags don't work you have to then duplicate the post or use another front-end and it messes everything up.

I'm super frustrated for you because you're one of my fav writers here.

Don't give up!

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This is basically a fact. I've also asked same questions to a lot of veterans on the Blockchain, none has been brutally honest as this. I keep hearing consistency and quality, but the need for pro-level engagements as you've highlighted has not been as emphasized.

Thanks for the reminders. I'll do better, and I'll ensure guide those I onboard properly as well.

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Instead of listening to Dane, just do what I do by sending expertly taking nudes to whoever you need upvote from. It has a 0.005% success rate but it's 100% fun

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I've never received a nude from you.

What, isn't my upvote good enough?

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Bro, I see that you have been making guides for users to do their job better in Hive, if you want and you can you could put a list in your post with links to the other posts you make that talk about the same thing' it would help a lot to those who are looking for help and optimize SEO.

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My plan is to actually edit my How to make money on Hive post and turn it into a long-form guide that ranks.

Bear with me while I get the content written and format it properly.

But I assure you, none of it is going to waste! :)

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All solid advice here sir. Answering all the questions a noob may have right out the gate.

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Ultimately the plan is to combine all these related pieces of content into a single guide.

One that not only ranks on Google, but one that I can then use as like a mini course to onboard new users.

Stay tuned!

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Fuck yes! We need this.

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Most people are so stuck in their egos that everything revolves around me, me, and more me. But if you want to make it on Leofinance, it has to be about the LEO community

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"There's no 'I' in communi..."

Oh wait.

;)

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Comments and engagement are vital. Even if ALL whales were looking for new users who actually write, the chances of them accidentally stumbling upon any particular account is pretty low.

But if you're a new user who can actually write, by simply putting yourself in the comments section of every post in the popular/curated/hot sections of the major communities, you WILL be seen.

Hive really isn't a big ocean when you think about it.

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Exactly, you have to get out away from your own post, or nobody is likely to know or even care what you wrote. Engage, and they'll get curious :)

It's not just about adding value, but you can't come into Leo thinking you can post anything. I used to not post to Leo because I felt like my stuff didn't belong.
It's more about posting your content in the right place with the right tags.
Lat year I earned over 500 Leo by posting my weekly goals here, but I also had Leo on my goals. I still want and need Leo but this year it's not a major part of my goals so I don't post it here. Sometimes I may use the tag but not always and not always in the first 5.
What people need to learn is where do their post fit, there are several general communities and a community for just about everything. You just have to find them.

!CTP

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Totally agree with getting the right tags on content, and it often baffles me which to use when. I am paying more attention and making a note of when they are used when i read articles, but there are so many that could potentially fit, depending on the community you're posting too. !hivebits

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That's very good advice! :)

So I see that you're now focusing on the CTP community a lot more.

While there's definite overlap between the entrepreneurship focus of CTP with the finance focus of LEO, you might earn more upvotes by focusing on just one.

Tailored content always does better.

Very interesting angle, thanks for sharing your story!

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My focus always was with CTP, that's the community I came to Hive with. Leo Finance was strongly recommended buy @jongolson as my mentor even when we were on steem but I never thought I had anything to offer that community but I wanted to get the tokens because of the value, however, I didn't have the means at the time to just buy so I had to figure something out.
Now that CTP has it's new frontend I try to use it because that's the community I'm with and support more then any other. That community has help me to get to where I am today.

Thanks for listening, I sometimes ramble.

Haha you don't have to worry, you're not rambling!

See you around :)

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I think you underestimate the power of the dolphins and whales.

My 11,000 HIVEPOWER mixed with my almost 4000 LEO gives a nice little boost, and I would say that it is easier to make friends with 5 little me's than to make "friends" with 1 whale.

Especially when it comes to attracting the downvoters, one whale friend can only take you so far before the downvoters come to town.

Lastly, I agree with the sob story bit. While I do support great content from people who have been here for years and regularly power down and take money out - I only do so because I know they live in places where HIVE income can make a real difference in the today (while for people like me it will make a difference in 30 years) - which means them spending crypto money brings in real life users -

BUT

I really would rather spend my upvotes on people who I know will keep my upvote income in the system.

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and I would say that it is easier to make friends with 5 little me's than to make "friends" with 1 whale.

This!

Great point.

We saw the power of dolphins during the Steem hostile takeover.

A ton of smaller accounts all pooling their HP made a REAL difference to the chain's governance.

Exactly the same can be said for your votes.


As for the sob story part, I do totally understand that you and I are approaching Hive from a totally different angle to other parts of the world.

I only do so because I know they live in places where HIVE income can make a real difference in the today (while for people like me it will make a difference in 30 years)

Well said and something I definitely need a reminder of from time to time.

Cheers.

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It is important to add value to the system both through sharing quality publications and by engaging.

I believe this has been helping others grow their Hive account over the years and it is still a very good strategy and formula to adopt.

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I couldn't have put it better myself.

Cheers for stopping by :)

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