But do you think that's the main reason Hive is failing? I agree that the Reddit user pointed out a major problem but that should can't be the reason for downward price actions?
It is also that is just now with what Inleo is doing that we are actually connecting with the outside, and creating things that can actually capture the interest of the people on crypto and normies as well.
And VSC is also just now creating something similar to the EVM...
But even when Inleo and VSC are creating the tech and social space for that, some people that doesn't like to see Hive expand beyond its own walls take on their hands to punish people for not following some "unwritten" rules... silly, but that does drive social users away.
It's not a blockchain thing, because Hive is free and censorship resistant on a technical level.
It's projects and individuals that take on their hands the role to patrol what other users do.
Some of those rules are not posting more than once or twice on 24 hours, only doing original personal content because academic content can be considered by some plagiarism, or just not deserving of votes, even with the sources. And stuff like that that make no sense and not everyone endorse, but those individuals annoy and drive away the users
Now, I see. This is the advantage of diversity. What some people find worthy of support, others may find worthless. Diversity should be a strength rather than a weakness. Unfortunately, some people can't just keep their hands to themselves when they disagree with you. When such people have a high stake in a POS platform like Hive, they bully by downvoting.
There is some advantages for downvotes in some cases, but it doesn't compensate the damage some users can cause. They are not that many tho, so it's possible to never cross paths with them, but still they are annoying.
I also thing that a person has the right to vote whatever they want, they made an investment on Hive for a reason. So even a "bad post" having a nice vote is not a big deal in my books.
If they are selling to develop, it would be understandable. I know a couple of witnesses whose contributions are important for the stability of the chain. The silent mover, hardly post about it. Also, I know some may be just getting funded for nothing.
Well I am not sure there is exactly a we per se. I will give an example though.
There are many who complain about some of the old school witnesses who support Hivewatchers and downvoting spam and deciding what should be rewarded.
Those people will need to find others who agree with them, collect lots and lots of HP (if they did not collectively have enough to propel one or many of their own to top 20 witness) and collect enough power to change witness rankings/DHF proposals, etc.
I am free to gripe about any number of things on Hive, but the only real way to effect change is with HP and/or persuasion.
I myself just build HP and use it how I see fit. People are going to do what they do.
HW issue is something witnesses differ about. Also, witnesses do much more than downvoting, many of them work hard for the functionality of the chain. I want to see a robust discussion and solution-seeking arguments. We can find faults with the current top 20 but do we have their replacements ready? Replacements with the necessary skills and technicalities to keep the chain functioning.
Oh I agree with you completely. I don't really care about as many of the things that others complain about and definitely prefer witnesses that are more techy than touchy feely. I thought you were just enquiring about how to go about things.
Witnessing requires a lot of work and money and not many have the staying power to do it actually.
100%
We are our own worst enemy.
But do you think that's the main reason Hive is failing? I agree that the Reddit user pointed out a major problem but that should can't be the reason for downward price actions?
It is also that is just now with what Inleo is doing that we are actually connecting with the outside, and creating things that can actually capture the interest of the people on crypto and normies as well.
And VSC is also just now creating something similar to the EVM...
But even when Inleo and VSC are creating the tech and social space for that, some people that doesn't like to see Hive expand beyond its own walls take on their hands to punish people for not following some "unwritten" rules... silly, but that does drive social users away.
Now, I'm getting lost. What are the unwritten rules? I guess that's a kind of blockchain politics.
It's not a blockchain thing, because Hive is free and censorship resistant on a technical level.
It's projects and individuals that take on their hands the role to patrol what other users do.
Some of those rules are not posting more than once or twice on 24 hours, only doing original personal content because academic content can be considered by some plagiarism, or just not deserving of votes, even with the sources. And stuff like that that make no sense and not everyone endorse, but those individuals annoy and drive away the users
Now, I see. This is the advantage of diversity. What some people find worthy of support, others may find worthless. Diversity should be a strength rather than a weakness. Unfortunately, some people can't just keep their hands to themselves when they disagree with you. When such people have a high stake in a POS platform like Hive, they bully by downvoting.
There is some advantages for downvotes in some cases, but it doesn't compensate the damage some users can cause. They are not that many tho, so it's possible to never cross paths with them, but still they are annoying.
I also thing that a person has the right to vote whatever they want, they made an investment on Hive for a reason. So even a "bad post" having a nice vote is not a big deal in my books.
Constant selling also, but why are they selling?
Mostly top 20 witnesses, DHF proposals and bitter old school users like myself lol
If they are selling to develop, it would be understandable. I know a couple of witnesses whose contributions are important for the stability of the chain. The silent mover, hardly post about it. Also, I know some may be just getting funded for nothing.
I agree with the Reddit user 100%.
Can't even imagine how many users Hive has lost because of that Hive Gestapo.
I agree that the user pointed out a major problem, but that can't be the only reason for the downward price actions.
We live on Hive. If we don't like it we have to change it!
How do we change it?
Get enough hive power to effect the votes or convince enough others with enough hive power to effect the votes.
Who are those we are proffering as alternatives and what have they or can they do differently?
Well I am not sure there is exactly a we per se. I will give an example though.
There are many who complain about some of the old school witnesses who support Hivewatchers and downvoting spam and deciding what should be rewarded.
Those people will need to find others who agree with them, collect lots and lots of HP (if they did not collectively have enough to propel one or many of their own to top 20 witness) and collect enough power to change witness rankings/DHF proposals, etc.
I am free to gripe about any number of things on Hive, but the only real way to effect change is with HP and/or persuasion.
I myself just build HP and use it how I see fit. People are going to do what they do.
HW issue is something witnesses differ about. Also, witnesses do much more than downvoting, many of them work hard for the functionality of the chain. I want to see a robust discussion and solution-seeking arguments. We can find faults with the current top 20 but do we have their replacements ready? Replacements with the necessary skills and technicalities to keep the chain functioning.
Oh I agree with you completely. I don't really care about as many of the things that others complain about and definitely prefer witnesses that are more techy than touchy feely. I thought you were just enquiring about how to go about things.
Witnessing requires a lot of work and money and not many have the staying power to do it actually.