Less gate-keeping.
Web 3.0 should encompass all aspects of online content generation, not just long form blogs. HiveWatcher’s tyrannical plutocracy, (harassing users for short form content, using stake to force users to abide by their arbitrary rules) is constricting the potential of the chain and pushing away new users.
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This is unfortunate, I've been seeing a lot of Hivers who are not in support of HiveWatchers. I think it's time they redo their approach because it seems they are doing more harm than good now. I need to dig more into seeing where their backing is, I used to delegate to them a while ago but pulled it due to complaints. I was told it would improve but it seems it has not. Not happy about this.
They are doing far more harm
It’s actually a huge huge turnoff
I see accounts in good standing
Not spammers
Getting dow notes for “spam” because they
Are on list of some sort
It’s horrible
Hey hey ho ho, Hivewatchers has to go! Lol
Hw has a thankless task.
They do the duties that stakeholders have, but refuse to use.
Hive Downvote Rewards was the crowd sourced initiative, but our dev got taken away by real life and hasn't been able to restart the bot incentivizing downvoting.
The group there now would welcome the support.
https://discord.gg/yfd95Sy
They have an active funded proposal, but in all reality, the flags are very nominal and what I've seen is fairly legitimate. Gatekeeping in itself though, there is a bit of that it seems. But like you say - keep moving forward.
They are the main reason I stopped posting on Hive for sure. I still keep an eye on Hive, but HiveWatcher's the reason I've since moved on for the most part.
Are you sure it is not because you were plagiarizing text and got caught? :)
Got caught plagiarizing? That implies I was knowingly trying to make money off of someone else's work. That couldn't be further from the truth, but that's the reason they gave me yeah. I copied/pasted game descriptions under my videos just like I've been doing my entire YT career and what others on YT do as well. It's such a small part of the post that I never really thought about it, I just carried on like I've always done and focused on the videos themselves.
If you see copying game descriptions under my videos as plagiarizing then I'm the worst criminal on the crypto sphere for sure and HW made sure I got punished for it. Then you have to crawl, beg and jump through hoops in the hopes that maybe they'll stop. It's demeaning. Just a simple "Hey, you shouldn't do that." type of message should've sufficed. I could continue just posting videos without any text of course, but it did open my eyes for how one entity can enforce some arbitrary rules on people or else.
Like, it's actually worse than YT in that regard. I can't recommend Hive to most of the other youtubers I know simply because they're used to having copy/pasted text somewhere in their descriptions. That's such a BS rule someone made up.
As a youtuber Hive just isn't good enough. People need a place they can continue doing what they're already doing on centralized social media platforms, but without the fear of being punished for it. Hive's the opposite.
You are spot on
I see good standing accounts getting totally downvoted on great original posts
And you could have carried on with your posts, but writing the text yourself and sourcing the copied part. It was your decision not to and stop posting instead.
As far as I see no other post after was downvoted. What hoops exactly?
You mean that if you take text from someone else, you should source it? :)
They teach that in schools. You, as a content creator, should at least be aware of that.
Why don't we all start copying text from the internet, because some people on YouTube do it...
People doing everything right
Even posting 100% original posts
Are getting massively downvoted
For no fucking reason
There just on a”list”
Hive will be Steemit soon if this doesn’t change
A new fork will come
There is always a reason.
Did you ask the person that was downvoting?
Did you research on your own before forming opinion?
So if downvotes didn't exist, it would be better?
How would you protect the reward pool? I am genuinely curious about your opinion.
P.S. Selfvoting all your comments with two accounts is probably not the best thing to do if you want to avoid the downvotes ;)
Yes, I already told you that I could've carried on without copy/pasting descriptions and I already told you why I stopped.
If one entity can shut you down in an instant without warning, then why would you bother building an audience here? At least give them a chance to correct their mistakes before taking everything away.
I was talking about the whitelisting process. I got through it, most people won't bother and just leave. Not very good for keeping people around don't you think?
Why such a condescending attitude? Sure, I agree I should've sourced it and no they don't teach that in schools, at least not here.
You're so off the mark here again trying to paint me as the worst scum of the earth. Making videos and copying some text in the description is common practice. Might not be right, but people accept it since description text is not why people watch videos. Most don't even read them.
I mean, if frigging game companies are fully aware and just fine with channels copy/pasting their game descriptions you wouldn't think that you have to link sources on a blockchain built around the idea of censorship resistance. It just doesn't occur to you.
If it was an article and the core content was text, then it would be a different thing in my eyes.
But yes, I understand sourcing copied text would be legally correct regardless.
Now you have an attitude and trying to victimize yourself by calling yourself scum and criminal. I never called you that.
First of all - some of your rewards were removed. Not from all posts ("taking everything away"). There is no need to exaggerate.
Second - people correct their mistakes and continue. And there is in nothing wrong with that. You got pointed out your mistake and since you got to know that copying someone else's writing is not welcome on Hive, you could continue writing your own text. Or not. It was your call.
Censorship free media doesn't mean you can freely copy other people's work. Please do not confuse those two.
You are also forgetting that you monetize your posts on Hive. YOUR content. Not other's. And curators should know which part of the post is actually yours, and which is not before they decide to vote it.
Glad we agree on that.
Agree 💯
Never heard of it before, but it sounds a lot like what that "Smooth" guy does. Really nasty.
HiveWatchers has a low stake? The only people I've seen downvoting are Smooth and Curangel