If they behave like absolute despicable entitled assholes, though, then they can fuck right off.
This guy has done shiteloads of content, over plenty of time, and it's generally not low effort whatsoever. Where's the issue? All I've seen is him getting repeatedly bashed by you and your nuking of HP values, alongside many others.
As I said, I really see no point in downvoting unless someone is doing something insanely morally wrong, what's he done wrong besides from post things you dislike?
Mr comment selfvoter
And? It's quite literally pennies to tick-over the HP APY while I'm away in trails. Again you're finding anything to bully folks with, it's hilarious, and you call others entitled?
On top of that you started downvoting random comments of mine that don't even have anything with Kenny or you to do, isn't that a form of bullying/retaliation/being a dumbass?
You are a whale zeroing out hundreds of dollars worth of people's income.
Might as well do my part against that? Go ahead, laugh at the little minnows whom retaliate to your over-zealous downvotes against certain creators.
You clearly see the disparity between these situations right?
Countered your dumb downvotes to save the returns of the other people that voted them similar to how I added a vote on another account I felt had been overdownvoted today. Something I would've done eventually for your friend Kenny too if he hadn't gone full shithead.
People still don't understand what the word "potential" means?
Look. There is no contract that says you are entitled to whatever the potential reward at any moment says. The only reward that you can actually call "income", is the one payout on the day 7 after the posting.
Of course it varies, I never said otherwise, I'm specifically talking about the zeroing of rewards that happens for folks that make their income on the platform, it feels OTT to have their entire potential rewards wiped.
I never said it's guaranteed or anything of the like, purely the above.
I did talk to Acidyo a bit afterwards though, so can disregard some of what I said outside that, I hope Kenny isn't too discouraged, any creator would be after these events.
No cause I'm not the one self-voting or votetrading while KennyS here is, tribesteemup->xeldal votes.
Post rewards shouldn't be seen as income, they're never guaranteed, same with curation rewards and witness rewards. HP APR is the only guarantee.
Right, but that depends on perspective I suppose. To a blogger or someone whom puts the effort in to write detailed posts and such on a long-term basis, it would be much of their "income" so to speak.
From what I've seen, most long-term folks here certainly write good quality stuff, and IMO don't deserve to be "pushed down" from it. Plus, isn't Hive (especially PeakD and Hive.blog) geared towards bloggers / writers?
Yes quite a lot and people should be earning I don't deny that, but if it so happens that a few posts get overdownvoted it shouldn't mean all hell breaks loose like some people act. I know it's easy for me to say cause I don't do most of my earning from post rewards, but I do know the feeling of getting zero'd, for months even and people need to be prepared for it. Anything can happen. I will however attempt to counter excessive downvotes (and upvotes) as much as I can when I have the extra time or happen to stumble upon them after finding out there was no real reason to (like josediccus recently), unless of course the way people act and the things they say make me not only not want to help them out but to downvote and lose my temper on because I think they're being such pieces of shit that they don't deserve to earn anything for the time being.
I can't disagree with you there. I occasionally view the "muted" area for people that I feel were over-downvoted and I try to help correct that with my little HP (excluding the REALLY weird stuff, spam, plagiarism, nobody likes that 😛).
And well, this is how I found Kenny and started following his posts a bit, I get that some folks are "over rewarded" but I'm really not a fan of the 'zeroing' that can happen to these folks, it feels hostile, and certainly to the creator, and that's what I feel triggered Kenny recently, most creators would probably feel the same way.
True, but he's not just a creator, he's a curator and many other things and has been for so long. Sure you could say I need to take better care of my vulgarity and outbursts but he could also improve on the way he reacts to such occurrences, especially since his actions/words are what triggered mine. I don't just lose my shit on people at random, i.e. don't have anger management issues, lol. You came out of left field as well but I realized you probably just don't know about why I've said and done what I did so I didn't just go on a rampage nuking all your selfvoted comments or harming your reputation score. I do hope people would use their vp in a more "give and take" kind of manner, both for posts and comments but similar to how you want to reward your own posts you've put a lot of effort into I can understand if you do the same for those comments if no one else does. It's just nicer receiving I guess so I kind of strive for that.
Hey look, more baseless conspiracy theory from the King of Hive.
Did you bring evidence of any kind with you this time?
No? Just publishing more libel?
I'm not the one claiming I don't want autovotes and never forfeiting any post rewards (until after getting downvoted) and overreacting to them.
Also muting you at this point cause my time is more valuable doing other things.
Missing the entire point of everything I've said to you, for days, once again.
I guess once all of you mute me, I won't get downvoted for hitting trending anymore, since you won't see it?
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lol, mind telling me what the context is of those votes? Or is this how you do research when you post and call people covidiots, idiot?
Oh look, it's cause the usual suspects that overreward garbage that brings low value to Hive retaliated on me for downvoting cross-posts and links. Nice find bro, you totally won the argument!
Now show me some posts of yours you've forfeited rewards in the past or even self-downvoted cause you felt it got overrewarded. :)
I don't nuke anything, I started adding my downvote on top of the others which most already zero'd him based on what he's been saying about Hive and his intentions which negatively affect it. Someone who's been rewarded well for years, even though he's also provided value to it, shouldn't instantly turn 180. It's not a good look for him nor for the people he's supported as it seems it's all about rewards.
Selfvoting comments, especially short ones saying "welcome" has been frowned upon in forever, voting trails are free to join or delegating your HP to curation projects. Doesn't mean you should get a higher APR than others who don't self-vote their comments no matter the size of your vote. How is what I'm saying entitled?
If you actually read any of the posts or comments I've written to you (or about centralization and censorship on Hive over the years) you'd know there was nothing instant about it. I've wanted to leave for years, but been talked into staying by community, time after time.
Hey, there's a whole section in the post that you're commenting on about this specific nonsensical baseless claim of yours.
Just try to act honestly, for like 5 minutes maybe?