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maybe. The point is HE has nothing to do with Hive it is its own ecosystem

I kinda agree, but not fully. The fact that many HIVE dapps use HE, makes it (at least) has something to do with HIVE. Right?

Nope.
It a side-chain that they are using.
I don't call them Hive dapps.
the more accurate answer is they are Hive-engine dapps.

I get your point but don't agree. A better comparison would be, H-E is to Hive as OP is to ETH.

Two different things but a lot in common as well.

yeah HE has nothing in common with Hive.
Swap.hive is just a wrap function.
Hive logins that is just an auth system.

Tell me what is common.
It is a side-chain trying to capitalize on Hive.

It really is not needed

Again, I get your point and not arguing about that. SOL & ETH are two L1s and so is HIVE. While Arb, and OP are L2s and H-E works on the second layer SO, my point was that a better comparison would've been ETH to some L2 instead of Solana. In other words, still within the ecosystem no matter how we feel about L2s.

I would say HE doesn't work on Layer 2. as their is no real connection.
It is a completely seperate side-chain.

Let's take Inleo for example, build on Hive, LEO token on L2, claimable on H-E, can be staked there as well.
I see a connection there. Similar to what ETH & OP have.

right, but Inleo is also available on other chains not just HE.
i can see this as Leo technically uses the HE smart contract for its L2.

but HE itself has no connection to Hive.

I see what you are saying. I don't disagree, but my point is HE has zero connections to hive other then piggybacking off the userbase with a simple wallet login.
and a wrapped token (swap.hive)

I think the wrapped token here is the key which makes it comparable to ETH L2s, or their DEXs with all of them using ETH as currency similar to that swap.hive is used on H-E for fees.

I don't know, there aren't that good DEXs on Hive anyway. BeeSwap is pretty good though

possibly.
i stil think SOL works as HE has not connection to Hive and is its own L1 side-chain.