This post is low-key brown nosing into blocktrade's colon. What do you think @blocktrades is he too deep or not deep enough?
What was the issue with @heimindanger anyway?
Did DTube get outlawed to give 3Speak exclusivity? This is something I've actually always had in the back of my mind as a "want to know" in order to assess the video element of Hive accurately.
Because...
- DTUBE IS ACTUALLY DOING OK.
- 3SPEAK IS ACTUALLY NOT.
Yet 3Speak guys want to take it to the next level when they don't even have an audience:
@theycallmedan @starkerz that's embarrassing numbers there. To want to pretend that you're going to SAVE FREE SPEECH is both delusional and egotistical.
Basic analysis shows that DTube is much better positioned to do that:
3SPEAK:
DTUBE:
Those stats are clear cut. DTube have a stream into their platform from USA and YouTube.. which is crucial traffic in relation to FREE SPEECH. 3Speak don't even have much recognition in both.
So while people have falling outs and overall this is the world of decentralised that doesn't adhere to business norms. One thing that is obvious.
YOU CAN ONLY BULLSHIT TO BLIND BELIEVERS.
Those here committed will accept anything.
If HIVE and 3SPEAK want to capture a larger slice of mainstream then I just don't see it with what's currently provided. OR what is ENVISIONED. There's much that needs to be transparent if you are going to try gain real investors and LUCID BELIEVERS or even enough activity to be anything but a lowkey operation generating decent gains for some, and pennies for the rest.
Which, is how I see HIVE. That it seems that there's no urgency in changing it because if the system is working for those few then who cares how shit the system really is for the rest true?
@edicted sorry for piggybacking on your post but these discussions need to be had OPENLY. I believe that if the BlockTrades Team has that many developers then it should be seen as reason to hype up Hive. Or ask questions if not true.
Bcause steemit/Hive is clouded in way too much shady operations... so if this project is ever going to get up from the floor then people need to start discussing the real flaws because they get discovered anyway.
Smart money doesn't proceed once they realise all those things. Errors corrected on the other hand, are a sign of good business sense and competent people committed to providing a superior system.
Yeah total brownnosing except I have a long history of talking mad shit about several players in the old guard, including blocktrades.
This is what brownnosing looks like to you? lol
Also, what is the point of comparing 3speak to dTube?
Okay, dTube is better than 3speak! So what? lol
YouTube is x1000 times better than both of them using those metrics. Again, irrelevant.
In my post I set the narrative of:
So obviously the two leading providers determine the status of that. Neither can challenge YT obviously but then BOTH are/were pushing that angle. Trying to be an alternative.
I see it as a BIG negative that HIVE would essentially push one out over the other. Isn't decentralised meant to allow competition and multiples of services?
Don't take the brown nosing comment serious man just like you I speak openly and I opened with that for laughs. The rest was serious though and I take your content seriously. That's why I read your posts often. You're one of only a few that express their view without reservations.
That's why I also made the point that the issues need to be discussed on Hive. This thing isn't going to go anywhere by CLAIMING IT'S SUPERIOR but then anyone that researches a little discovers that it's not quite so (YET).
I see 2021 as a pivotal year.
HIVE's coming of age and the completion of what "SOCIAL WITH REWARDS" could be and should be. So... will that happen or will the community continue to be made to think it's going to happen? See, some win either way. So it's a very important measure of the true future of Hive. Not the speculative dream that so many here are clutching on to.
It takes a lot to piss me off.
I can't think of a time I was actually mad on Hive (3 years).
Is Hive pushing one out?
How so?
The Dinger refuses to build here by design.
Confirmed in this thread.
2021 will be interesting to be sure.
Lol well what I wanted to know is why the split. I've tried to dig in to why DTube fell out with 'the gang' but it seems much of that discussion is on discord and such. All I can find is the angry aftermath.
As a non committed (to the rewards game) user I just think it's a negative to limit service providers on a system that promotes the decentralised mantra.
Like I said though I don't know how it all happened but would you not say that "banned from Hive GitHub" is getting pushed out?
Huge fallout during the hostile takeover.
dTube lost its huge delegation from Steemit or something... rampaged ensued.
It was a pretty bad look.
The witnesses were basically blamed for their actions leading to the loss of the delegation.
Also I'm not sure if he got an airdrop due to witness votes and whatnot.
Lots of spitfire.
Yeah that's what I see as the aftermath but then I think coders were tight enough to be able to work out those differences and move in unison. Back in the old days DTube was a gem of steemit coders. There was also collectively many more coders back then so on that topic...
I wonder if blocktrades actually has this large team now? The video updates show that the cohesion between them isn't really showing "team" because even howo had to be briefed on the second layer idea. Then to find out blocktrades himself is working other non-hive projects makes it even more mysterious as to how this team operates.
I only say this because to make the claim of "we have the largest team in crypto" is a big statement. One that then should mean that this chain should be moving faster and that the Blockchain world needs to know Hive is muscled up as a challenger.
This is what then leaves me a little perplexed about Hive. IN HERE... BIG talks. OUT THERE... not much talks. WHY then... Why significant Hive heads are so quiet out there? See.. that's why I conclude: either shy/not confident to flex or its because that talk is only to the loyalist. To retain some community and keep that money train moving.
I'm not at all saying coders here are EVIL or not building. I just think this thing is less about the people/possibility and more about the money.
I agree with everything you said and that's why I try get the discussion going but those who have become the inner circle here are all shy or don't want to have that discussion.
@blocktrades
@theycallmedan
You two represent the nuclei of this platform. Block the code. Dan the hope. You can't seriously think that selling basic code wrapped in a lot of hope to a tiny audience is ever going to take this thing to any great heights do you?
Who the hell is going to buy in to this with any significant amount?
I'm confident that the long game could work out for this chain but then that would mean that those HERE NOW - LOYAL USERS deserve better reward. Which can be done with the system now. Yet everywhere I see very fractional rewards to those outside of the inner circle.
That's a sure way TO KILL COMMUNITY.
Which is in effect. Holding 10K weekly users is a very thin margin to recover from even if the next year sees amazing development.
ZERO MARKETING means you're relying on that very small community to do the work. Which is also in effect. So really, what the hell is THE HIVE EXPERIENCE?
Work for the inner circle?