Khal has made a good point. We need to attract money into the Hive ecosystem rather than have money escape. We need to provide value to change the flow, not cut rewards.
Question for you Khal, what do you think is important for a whitness to get community support? And what needs to be done to get your support and that of INLEO?
I think this idea of using part of the rewards pool to reward pageviews or traffic would be really amazing. Right now, we have limited views for quality content especially from outside of hive. If we really want to grow and become a global brand, then we need a way to attract that external traffic which would boost hive use as a blockchain.
#question we need better ways to gauge valuable contributions on Hive. What are ways from a developers perspective can we make that happen? If we know what content does best, we can tailor our content to achieve that.
I am not talking about attracting Hive eyeballs. I mean ways to gauge traffic we are receiving from outside of the platform. That's how we will be become relevant
I would like to hear from you what you think of the role assigned to HW? Do they fulfill the function for which DHF pays them? Is it necessary to have 1 or more "groups" to do this control as Hive grows?
I haven't had any personal interaction with them. I know it's a hot topic. I think on the surface, it's a project that was always designed to keep the blockchain clean. I hope that will always be the focus.
i think thats what the original mission was for all these type of projects. hope it gets back to what it's intended to be, and not personal opinion about what deserves rewards and what doesnt.
I've interacted with them primarily on behalf of other members. Essential project, but the implementation has been questionable from my personal POV. I think there may be better options for how it can be run, but it's going to require the involvement of more individuals.
I think I'd actually like to see either a larger amount of people running this type of project (for the purpose of decentralization / consensus) or possibly have someone assigned to each community so that each community could decide how to use this type of project. Easier said than done, of course. I think there's an essential role for them on the chain - if implemented properly.
What bothers me, while some planktons strive to do right, Ive seen abuse from certain curators of whale accounts farming votes on Alts & claiming it belongs to relative. Also Hive user & anti-abuse bot dev @YAZIRIS is highly underrated.
Removing the reward pool on the Hive blockchain doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Rewards are definitely a big motivation for many of us to be here, but it's not the only reason. We also care deeply about the growth and development of our community. Plus, there are lots of people who rely on Hive as their main source of income.
That's the issue ... you are DETACHED, sir. But one does not have to be detached to think logically. And, AGAIN, this is not a game for most people -- Splinterlands cannot be the model for Hive changing lives.
Is it possible for users that were blacklisted to be forgiven and be part of the reward pool? I feel blacklisting shouldn't last forever but for a duration of time.
Coming to the reward pool on hive. Is really helping drive hive to a brighter space in the cryptosphere. Hive is changing live in many places in country and is drawing more people to itself through the reward pool.
as a curator, I speak for myself, I do the work. And to be frank, there isn't much out there but that's because if the model we have adopted overtime. This conversation is quite nunance
Currently the Splinterland curators have been taking curating more seriously for some time now so that all those who make an effort to create content are supported and those who don't are pushed aside.
In the context of curation trails, how can users effectively utilize downvotes to signal undesirable content and promote better curation standards within a community?
What does the panel think about posting your content on multiple platforms and blockchains. Should users be encouraged or punished.
Alternatively should we have post on hive first policy and rest it is up to the user to repost as it is their content.
I have a question about Hive-engine. Does the Hive engine exist in the Coin market cap? Is it valuable for the crypto market? Are bear and bulls affect the Hive Engine tokens?
i personally think rewards are very important. new users have a chance to actually earn some here, instead of having to buy into positions like on other chains.
they have been fantastic at supporting the community. i think Matt mentioned it's a bunch of factors, not just creation. but also the traffic and engagement the video receives.
I read something on 3speak that suggested that to stand a chance to be curated, you should get more views on your vlogs. I wanted to find out what the window of views is from time of publishing your vlog to time of curation.
Please, I want to recommend the effort of the inleo team. I also want to point out that we can do better with the UI because sometimes preview on threads do show until after some minutes. This discourages engagement on thread. #suggestion
Sure, the second layer can be simpler than first layer, it can all be about 2nd layer, but only Splinterlands is mature enough for that right now. Leo maybe in a few months. Give me 10 more of those before we talk about removing the rewards pool
Weldon Arcange!
The decentralized nature of hive is really one thing I love about hive. People love it when they see they can own their information and data. The decentralized layer of hive s driving it far in the cryptosphere.
Make projects like inLeo to divert the community in such a way that scare of AI and the vote abuse would be 2nd thing that community thinks when they login. You can't kill yourself now because terminator is coming to get sarah conor in 2050.
So AI abusing reward pool does not mean we kill hive. Many dapp owners would be using AI to write their code, build their games, so do you want to fund them in proposal?
I must say this is the most valuable space for my hive career. I learn so many thing from you guys. I just get some awesome answer against some of my confusion.
Big thanks to all the speakers of today, you have all done justice to this topic, I really learnt a lot of things from this discussion, and I will keep participating on every space in order to gain more knowledge about the Hive blockchain
Security, is very very important in any organisation, when there is a strong security the members of the organisation can clearly boost about their organisation to other and invite others to the organisation with being afraid
The fact that evey business can be marketed on hive is really amazing, programmers, designers, writers, singers and so on have been given the opportunity to advertise their skill through the hive community
I don't think removing the reward pool is the best way to go. One of the things that makes Hive different from other social media platform is the fact that it rewards content creators for their contents.
I can totally understand users who don't produce content on Hive wanting to remove the reward pool. It's always easy to remove something that you are not involved with.
A Big shout-out to Arcange!! Because he made some awesome software. I love the Hive Buzz most. We can get some special features to create a better Hive career by his softwares.
I thought I was building during my grind but I don't have as much as I thought from just curating and engagement. I need a 10 year bear before the bull.
It is a great idea to empower the communities to have their own fund, also that there are different funds and that everyone with a good project can access the fund without the need for large votes and whales to be approved.
I have a good idea of what I think about this topic, but it's always good to see other points of view! I've already changed mine a few times by listening to some other points of view.
#HIVE communities like venezuela has been wonderful, but the cryptospace is relatively small and we need to open up to partner with other communities like #Ethereum #EOS #Ton #nft
Building houses around the world can offer a way to work, meet and greet the community.
Hive, being a blockchain-based platform, has the potential to explore and adopt sustainable solutions that minimize energy consumption while maintaining the integrity and security of its ecosystem
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Downvotes is a great features, although most users don't like it but it helps regulate the activities being done on hive, because most people Post content that abuse the platform so this contents need a Downvotes
Khal has made a good point. We need to attract money into the Hive ecosystem rather than have money escape. We need to provide value to change the flow, not cut rewards.
Will review my witnesses again, thanks for the reminder.
Damn! Task is killin it, just said a lot of the things I've been saying in the comments with his own twist, thanks @taskmaster4450le
we have so many intelligent people on hive I believe if we work together we can build something
I wonder how many top 20 witnesses on #hive are in this Space
I also wonder if the ones who aren't here consistently should continue to be in the top 20
Gladly we can vote based on that too 😉 Migth just review my votes after this...
Question for you Khal, what do you think is important for a whitness to get community support? And what needs to be done to get your support and that of INLEO?
I think this idea of using part of the rewards pool to reward pageviews or traffic would be really amazing. Right now, we have limited views for quality content especially from outside of hive. If we really want to grow and become a global brand, then we need a way to attract that external traffic which would boost hive use as a blockchain.
Every year we talk about attracting investors and entrepreneurs on hive but how has that worked for us?
You discard the demographic that actually want to use your chain and pursue those who don't
We will learn eventually
No we wont lol
#question we need better ways to gauge valuable contributions on Hive. What are ways from a developers perspective can we make that happen? If we know what content does best, we can tailor our content to achieve that.
that's a little bit of trial and error. rolling up the sleeves and seeing what works for attracting eye balls!
I am not talking about attracting Hive eyeballs. I mean ways to gauge traffic we are receiving from outside of the platform. That's how we will be become relevant
Congratulations for putting up a great show. Very much a learning experience.
Hopefully such Spaces would be awesome to highlight the issues and look for the best possible solutions.
This is the how a community grow together.
Every Hive powerup is good to contribute to the governance.
Hope to see you soon!
QUESTION
I would like to hear from you what you think of the role assigned to HW? Do they fulfill the function for which DHF pays them? Is it necessary to have 1 or more "groups" to do this control as Hive grows?
I haven't had any personal interaction with them. I know it's a hot topic. I think on the surface, it's a project that was always designed to keep the blockchain clean. I hope that will always be the focus.
Someone really needs to do the work to keep Hive clean and prevent abuse. Thanks for giving your point of view!
i think thats what the original mission was for all these type of projects. hope it gets back to what it's intended to be, and not personal opinion about what deserves rewards and what doesnt.
I've interacted with them primarily on behalf of other members. Essential project, but the implementation has been questionable from my personal POV. I think there may be better options for how it can be run, but it's going to require the involvement of more individuals.
I think I'd actually like to see either a larger amount of people running this type of project (for the purpose of decentralization / consensus) or possibly have someone assigned to each community so that each community could decide how to use this type of project. Easier said than done, of course. I think there's an essential role for them on the chain - if implemented properly.
Question
Should we have a separate section for AI generated content?
What bothers me, while some planktons strive to do right, Ive seen abuse from certain curators of whale accounts farming votes on Alts & claiming it belongs to relative. Also Hive user & anti-abuse bot dev @YAZIRIS is highly underrated.
Removing the reward pool on the Hive blockchain doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Rewards are definitely a big motivation for many of us to be here, but it's not the only reason. We also care deeply about the growth and development of our community. Plus, there are lots of people who rely on Hive as their main source of income.
That's the issue ... you are DETACHED, sir. But one does not have to be detached to think logically. And, AGAIN, this is not a game for most people -- Splinterlands cannot be the model for Hive changing lives.
Question
Is it possible for users that were blacklisted to be forgiven and be part of the reward pool? I feel blacklisting shouldn't last forever but for a duration of time.
one would hope so. i hope there are much better appeal processes in place.
Coming to the reward pool on hive. Is really helping drive hive to a brighter space in the cryptosphere. Hive is changing live in many places in country and is drawing more people to itself through the reward pool.
please please curators do a lot of hard work. It is not our fault that there are a few decent creators.
As to auto vote, that can be fixed with code.
I agree there may be a few decent creators but I think the whole idea is for curators to go out of their way to find new decent creators
as a curator, I speak for myself, I do the work. And to be frank, there isn't much out there but that's because if the model we have adopted overtime. This conversation is quite nunance
Auto vote should be removed in my opinion.
i agree but guess what? That's not been talked about, why? Just guess 😏
Currently the Splinterland curators have been taking curating more seriously for some time now so that all those who make an effort to create content are supported and those who don't are pushed aside.
Congratulations for putting up such a Great Townhall show. It was an exciting and a very Educative Experience.
Question
What does the panel think about posting your content on multiple platforms and blockchains. Should users be encouraged or punished.
Alternatively should we have post on hive first policy and rest it is up to the user to repost as it is their content.
when i was messing with torum and noise cash a few years ago, i created unique content for every platform.
I have a question about Hive-engine. Does the Hive engine exist in the Coin market cap? Is it valuable for the crypto market? Are bear and bulls affect the Hive Engine tokens?
nah this is why decentralized exchanges are so important. right now, all that's on the centralized ones is HIve.
Question
How do you think a feature like statistic-driven rewards affect new users coming up to #hive to create content?
#threadcast #question
i personally think rewards are very important. new users have a chance to actually earn some here, instead of having to buy into positions like on other chains.
Yes, and this question came up with the whole discursion of removing the reward pool and using some other kind of system.
Question!
Am glad you you have 3Speak in the house.
I made videos and posted to 3speak for more than 2 months without a single vote from 3speak.
@3speak, What inspires you curation?
they have been fantastic at supporting the community. i think Matt mentioned it's a bunch of factors, not just creation. but also the traffic and engagement the video receives.
Yes, I heard him when he reacted.
However, it's surprising that they didn't visit any of the videos I made on a daily basis for more than 2 months.
I had to stop because uploading the videos were costing me so much
i think everything will improve, especially once spk network gets off the ground!
I hope so.
Your replies are very suiting.
Thank you.
Question
I read something on 3speak that suggested that to stand a chance to be curated, you should get more views on your vlogs. I wanted to find out what the window of views is from time of publishing your vlog to time of curation.
Apt: no other the multiple accounts, hivers recognize each as an individual not a bot.
Question
On the other hand, is it possible to fake views in #hive?
i'm sure different front ends can monitor the traffic, and be able to sniff out artificial traffic.
Please, I want to recommend the effort of the inleo team. I also want to point out that we can do better with the UI because sometimes preview on threads do show until after some minutes. This discourages engagement on thread. #suggestion
Sure, the second layer can be simpler than first layer, it can all be about 2nd layer, but only Splinterlands is mature enough for that right now. Leo maybe in a few months. Give me 10 more of those before we talk about removing the rewards pool
Weldon Arcange!
The decentralized nature of hive is really one thing I love about hive. People love it when they see they can own their information and data. The decentralized layer of hive s driving it far in the cryptosphere.
Thank you @josephdon211
I haven't seen a blockchain that gives peace like a hive, once you follow the rules there would not be any issues whatsoever.
Thanks guys it was a great talk where we learned from great community leaders. I thoroughly enjoyed and learned from your thoughts .
Thanks guys! Great show!
How the DHF works? Doesn't it affect the Hive Ecosystem? Is there any chance to abuse with these fund? What if big account abuse with these fund?
Hi, you can read what it is HERE.
Make projects like inLeo to divert the community in such a way that scare of AI and the vote abuse would be 2nd thing that community thinks when they login. You can't kill yourself now because terminator is coming to get sarah conor in 2050.
So AI abusing reward pool does not mean we kill hive. Many dapp owners would be using AI to write their code, build their games, so do you want to fund them in proposal?
Task based rewards was the best suggestion.
I must say this is the most valuable space for my hive career. I learn so many thing from you guys. I just get some awesome answer against some of my confusion.
Hive rewards pool is just a long discussion when it comes to removing it pool
its has really been an interesting space
Yes it is💯
Big thanks to all the speakers of today, you have all done justice to this topic, I really learnt a lot of things from this discussion, and I will keep participating on every space in order to gain more knowledge about the Hive blockchain
Security, is very very important in any organisation, when there is a strong security the members of the organisation can clearly boost about their organisation to other and invite others to the organisation with being afraid
The fact that evey business can be marketed on hive is really amazing, programmers, designers, writers, singers and so on have been given the opportunity to advertise their skill through the hive community
Is this the last space for the year
I don't think removing the reward pool is the best way to go. One of the things that makes Hive different from other social media platform is the fact that it rewards content creators for their contents.
Oh, this is working now, cool!
I can totally understand users who don't produce content on Hive wanting to remove the reward pool. It's always easy to remove something that you are not involved with.
every shining new thing have come and gone, only hive has remained and is booming with activity
A Big shout-out to Arcange!! Because he made some awesome software. I love the Hive Buzz most. We can get some special features to create a better Hive career by his softwares.
Thank you @vagabondww
@arcange We want that time back when Steemit was ranked 6th on the coin market.
#question why is we not having more users and the price is not even one dollar?
A newbie brainstorming.
I think it's market cycle. When $HIVE and $LEO go to the moon, people will show up. That's why it's so important for all of us to build now!
Exactly, We'd love to build up and both $HIVE and $LEO will go to the MOON! All efforts are well paid at the end of the day.
I thought I was building during my grind but I don't have as much as I thought from just curating and engagement. I need a 10 year bear before the bull.
It is a great idea to empower the communities to have their own fund, also that there are different funds and that everyone with a good project can access the fund without the need for large votes and whales to be approved.
Thank you for answer my question!
I have a good idea of what I think about this topic, but it's always good to see other points of view! I've already changed mine a few times by listening to some other points of view.
#HIVE communities like venezuela has been wonderful, but the cryptospace is relatively small and we need to open up to partner with other communities like #Ethereum #EOS #Ton #nft
Building houses around the world can offer a way to work, meet and greet the community.
I rather get I hive worth 4$ than 10 worth 0.30$, just saying
QUESTION:
I want to hear Dan's take on the removal of the reward pool. I know his stance but I will like to hear it again 🫠
Urgh I would have loved to here that too!
Removing Downvotes is not good on me, we caanot regulate or express freely if we dont like a specific blog or he/she abuse something.
It should cost more though.
I think, if it is deserving
Can anyone see my comments?
I can't see any comments 😫
Don't worry, the servers were down
Oh!
Thank you for replying. I can view the comments now
Does this mean that users who already received support or upvotes would be denied this opportunity or the opportunity they already have?
It would not be appropriate
#inleo
Hive, being a blockchain-based platform, has the potential to explore and adopt sustainable solutions that minimize energy consumption while maintaining the integrity and security of its ecosystem
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Downvotes is a great features, although most users don't like it but it helps regulate the activities being done on hive, because most people Post content that abuse the platform so this contents need a Downvotes