It seems to me the main difficulty is not in getting new people to come here but in retention. So perhaps we can brainstorm on how to improve retention. And ask the users who aren't active why they stopped being active. What do you think?
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@borislavzlatanov
I’ll start by asking yourself.
Please share...
Well, I am active (some commenting but mostly curating) and the reasons for me are both to create a passive income and to participate in building and experimenting with new types of economic and governance systems for humanity. This place offers me such possibilities (even as a small user). Other people may have other reasons but these are the major ones for me.
Ok 🆗
That's very correct.
Because their content is either ignored or overlooked.
Nowadays there are too many content creators, but only a few content consumers on the Hive blockchain. And the automated curation makes it even worse. Many of the curators do not even see what they curate. The average number of comments per post is 2-3, and most of those comments are bot comments. The real human interaction is rare on the Hive blockchain. Many people become disappointed. This is mostly why people are stopping being active.
Speaking about retention it gonna be very hard and the hive community isn't helping at all. I watched a new user grow an account posting about 200 posts to reach a reputation of (51) within about the space of 1 month (that can still be considered fast when comparing it to my own growth) but the account was found to be an impersonator and it was so funny how within a single day it was downvoted down to (0) rep. I believe this shows that the communties and user with higher power only wants to reward there own interest like the communities they've created and the friends they know will get to upvote them back. If such massive support can be gathered to reward new users it would be a big encouragement, but we keep asking newbies to publish great content in order to get a good upvote, yet they publish and still no reward. They definitely will move on to other things they feel will be more productive rather than only watch some post little thing and still earn big reward.
How an impersonator getting downvoted to 0 rep is an issue? And to be honest, most newbies do not share good posts, so I can see why they are not getting the reward they expected.
Because no one has the heart to tell a lot of people their posts suck and it's better to just avoid leaving negative comments that further discourage the user. A lot of people assume once they are onboarded and post, everything they churn out is $ in the form of hand me down votes. There's more to platform than just content dumping and most don't get the social dynamics that go along with the ecosystem.
Hmm do you seriously mean that? Check mine. Check the posts of those who have been here for 2 years or more and what they post on the Actfit community and how they are rewarded.
The truth is people vote for those the whales vote for, they follow them blindly. When a whale voted on most of my posts last month (my first month of being active here) I had 400+ votes on some of my posts. Has my quality gone bad suddenly ?
In fact now that I understand the platform better I post better quality posts, you need godfathers here that is how I see it.
I gotta to agree with @emmanuel.willy, they serve their own purposes. The response to my reply here by the opis adequate enough evidence lol.
Just my honest opinion.
I said, most, not all. Also, @ocdb has a program where they check in on a new user, and if their post is good enough then they would upvote. It seems their curators liked your content so they are continuing to reward your posts.
I stand by my opinion that most newbies do not share good posts. And if you think that someone in actifit community is getting rewarded undeservedly, maybe ask @smooth to downvote said posts. If he agrees that it is undeserved, he would gladly downvote those posts.
And, do not forget that this platform is as much a blogging platform as a social media platform. To be seen you have to make connections and interact with people, that is how it works. You are not entitled to a whale vote or any other vote for that matter.
As a side note, people vote for what whales vote for because under certain threshold rewards they get from a post gets halved. This issue would be remedied with the coming hard fork.
Thanks, I won't respond to this.
To get things right - we need to step back and see why this discussion was even started.
I gave a suggestion and whether it is accepted or even considered or not is not mine to defend
I am just another newbie
Thanks for the response.
@emmanuel.willy why did @pblog sent you the HBD the impersonator @eloy-drawing sent to @pblog?
Come up with a believable answer.
Something stinks here and it's not the people upvoting.
@adamada I would definitely would believe this to be a question!! But the quote "come up with a believable answer" seem to make it an accusation which I think is overstepping boundaries and making accusations before even hearing what the case is about.
Yea i knew about the @eloy-drawing case, and I made a transaction with @pblog which I also suspected was @eloy-drawing but this is part of the way I make money also by buying from other users and selling to another that's business and I don't remember any rule prohibiting from transacting with any user (even if they may be criminal). This is in no way to endorse criminal act on the blockchain, but even if I didn't buy it, I guess they will sell it to someone else any. And that how it is I've given you my answer, whether it reasonable or not is up to you to decide.
It's a form of encouragement :D
So it's not a problem whether you're dealing with crooks, it's just the money talks you're after?
We just call it money laundering off the blockchain.
Well you assisted in the process even when flags were raised.
I don't find it acceptable. You don't need the rewards from posting. You can just trade with crooks as much as you want.
I don't get what this fuss is about, I go through my normal business as I ought to which is hiving and if there's an opportunity to buy I take such offers, I only deal with people with little hbd because I'm not that buoyant financially, and I never said I'm dealing with fraudsters, I only said I really didn't think the process of the sellers getting their money is my problem just as those I sell to also don't mind how or at what price I got mine. But I just feel you're taking this too personal
The guy's money came from profiting off someone else's work. You made a comment about him being a victim of how mean the platform can be yet acknowledge him a fraud. You knew what you were doing taking a few cents worth of profit. You made it easier for them to take profit for the ID theft. I heard your reasoning behind the why. Opportunity cost was stolen from someone else, and it's opportunity cost I'm only balancing out. Hope it was worth dealing with @eloy-drawing and reblogging their posts.
Okay!! I admit I'm wrong @eloy-drawing was wanting to sell the hbd ever before it was discovered and my upvote and reblog where just a form of support, I had already unvoted @eloy-drawing right from the day it was declared to be an Impersonator and they contacted me for the sale and I didn't feel it was a big deal then Please don't destroy my account I beg you I didn't look at it in such light. Please
What's all this you're doing? Please stop I beg, the power is in your hands but really noone told me this earlier, please I've struggled to build this account and you'll just pull it down for 4hbd..
I could transfer back the hbd if that's what you want and will not trade with such people just please stop!!
Sure, will stop if you actually do that. The downvotes will stay as a reminder.
I've transferred it back please
I definitely will stop please. I'm not much of a blogger but I've managed to get to this stage, so I definitely won't do such thing that I now know could tarnish all my works please.