We've been running @lovesniper for a while now, for those unaware what it does in a tl;dr is: a bot that checks and alerts us in the discord when a new account makes its first post (created by @rishi556), then a team of curators checks what kind of post it is, recommends them to make an intro post if it's not one and throws the accounts a follow to check back later when they do introduce themselves and then unfollows them with the @lovesniper account. If it's already an intro post or once they introduce themselves, they are nominated for curation and highlighted in a compilation post where other readers can curate and throw them a follow if they're interested in what they may be writing about. It's quite the process but should over time produce a higher retention of new users, get them their first rewards + RC and then they're also directed at communities they might be interested in after finding out what their interests are through the introduction. As you can tell a lot of work goes into the process, thereby the curators get also rewarded for their efforts through the compilation posts.
Some things we've been seeing lately happen though, as expected, is that people want to abuse the good deeds of the curators by targeting the lovesniper project with fake identities and introduction posts - i.e. it being the same or a group of the same people producing these just for the rewards. This has caused us now to become a lot stricter with the rewards we dish out towards these intro posts, no matter how long or how much effort went into them, I check for other things as well now before casting the ocd votes on them, such as if they've been commenting or posting more since the intro post. Luckily for us the posts are usually 3-4 days old when I get to voting them, this is since the curators are a bit behind on getting to the first posts of accounts due to the big number of accounts being created lately. This gives us some leeway to check on the activity of the accounts, if they've started posting in communities, started engaging, etc, which factors the vote we give to them. These smaller votes are to disincentivize scam/id theft/fake id rings but still give something in case the users happen to be real but just appear to be another fake account. We've also been helping ecency with account creation lately as they've been running low on account credits, and as they're one of the few free account services that only rely on email verification (but have made it harder to abuse) there are some foul apples that can get through either way. In the end we don't see it as a big loss or damage if some fake accounts can muster to get a couple $ in rewards for writing unique and placing effort into the posts, as long as some of them are genuine the upside should be better. It sucks that we can't reward introduction posts a lot more as that's one of the beauties of Hive where anyone and everyone can join, introduce themselves and get their first crypto but at the same time going through the dense process of verification that some platforms require such as voice is also not great because there are a lot of people who either value their anonymity when posting online or just want a platform they can speak their mind without it being tied to their real identity, I see this happen on Reddit quite a lot where people would simple create throwaway accounts but end up using said accounts for a long time. Those who don't mind verifying themselves can of course and are incentivized to link their other socials (with @poshtoken we'll be able to incentivize this activity more in the near future once it has a real value) or to their real name directly but we are not a platform that is going to force it and shun anyone not doing so because that freedom of not having to do so is one of our strengths.
We have been seeing some good results either way, a lot of legit newcomers coming in, diving into the platform and its diverse and many communities and connecting with others. As an example just yesterday I happened to spot a fellow Gods Unchained player who has mentioned many weeks ago that he was going to check Hive out for his art content and I happened to vote on him through lovesniper and reblog once I noticed who it was! As we improve over time and become better at detecting and avoiding the fake ones and Hive gets more recognition through marketing and word of mouth we hope to see the numbers improve even more and be able to see concrete evidence of it on the daily active users stats.
Talking about word of mouth, something we've been working on now for our next project will be an onboarding program through OCD which we're hoping will yield a lot better results than the usual random new signups and what we've been accomplishing with lovesniper. This one will work through hiveonboard and make use of our account token credits we've been collecting over the years. Thanks to @lemony-cricket this will all go through our discord where onboarders with a certain role will be able to generate a VIP hive onboard link so that the users signing up won't need to use their phone numbers as that's something many don't like understandably, quickly receive an account and then be introduced to Hive and all it has to offer. We realize that many members here today have been wanting to invite folks but have felt that they're not ready to properly welcome them with their stake, although this will get easier with the linear curve coming up in the next hardfork, we want to make it even better with this program. The onboarders will have their own dedicated channels in our Discord where they can freely receive account creation invites and drop nominations for curation of the users they've invited until they've settled in nicely in communities where then the community incubation program will be continuing to take care of them. We're hoping that incentives such as the beneficiary rewards of invited users and compilation highlights of onboarded users introduction posts will incentivize people to go out there and invite content creators, show them the ropes about Hive (or guide them towards our discord so they can ask questions there) and be able to curate them so they get comfortable with Hive and understand what it's about. A mix of guaranteed early curation (depending on the quality and effort of the content) for the beneficiary rewards and knowing that these new content creators have a guarantee that they are real as we'll be handpicking who can onboard based on trust and reputation on the chain I think we will be able to aim for new highs of retention and onboarding. Over time we'll be able to let more and more content creators invite others and it will hopefully create an avalanche of newcomers and a higher price to be able to curate all of them with decent rewards.
We've worked hard on making sure that this program won't be abusable or that at least onboarders are linked to who they invited if some turn out to attempt to cheat curation to somewhat hold them accountable.
Make sure to keep your eyes open for an official announcement post of the onboarding program as we will be looking for applicants who are interested in inviting new users and content creators and get that ball rolling! We will also look to generate statistics of onboarded users along with special prizes for things like most onboarded through us, highest retention rate of onboarded users and fun gamification stuff like that. We're looking forward to working together with reputable Hive users to bring in more amazing content creators and we have a lot more things planned for 2021! For now let's do a few things at a time. :)
If you like what OCD is doing, we'd appreciate a witness vote on our @ocd-witness account and if you want some of your stake to help us curate and grow these initiatives and projects we're doing, you can delegate directly to @ocdb and receive daily returns in Hive the next day and then daily!
Thanks for reading and all of the support the OCD team have received over the years as we'll continue our best to keep Hive one of the best platforms on the internet!
When I joined, I didn't know what RC was, and had 0. I couldn't post. I couldn't comment. And I most other social platforms a person could name. And I felt Hive was 'blocking' me, with no explanation. I tried to use a faucet, but even that failed for some reason.
I felt bad and was just gonna go back to web 2.0 stuff...
... until @lovesniper and @traciyork saved me. literally stopped me from leaving this platform.
I've posted over 90,000 words in the single month I've been here, and it all would've ended up somewhere else if it weren't for this initiative. (Even if I still don't really understand the relationship between @lovesniper and @ocd very well)
Huge props to you, @rishi556 , and everyone else involved. I had no idea there were so many nuances involved, or that people were abusing the bot with fake accounts. Despite all that, you've done a fantastic job improving retention, imho.
I voted for your witness, have no idea how to stake someone, and I'm looking forward to what comes next. Wishing you a great day! 🙏
First things first...
Wicked appreciate the shout out, @ryzeonline & I'm so glad we didn't lose you! As @acidyo said, it isn't easy work, but it's totally worth it to have community members like you stick around. 😊
As for the @lovesniper / @ocd relationship thing, I'll take a stab at explaining it - OCD is Acid's project, which is focused on supporting Hive content across a wide variety of topics/communities by making use of curators & community leaders who recommend individual posts for curation. A few months back, Acid put together a team to additionally focus on people posting for the first time on Hive. I think that's it in a nutshell. 😁
Thanks again & hope you're having an awesome weekend!
OMG that personalized gif with my name on it. Feelin' the love :)
You and Acid's work is clearly paying off, I hugely appreciate it.
And wow, that was a clear, precise, enlightening explanation. I get it now! Thank you.
Wishing you the same, wooooo! 🙏
Is there any way that we can help with this? Do all accounts have "account credits"? Can we delegate or donate them to a pool or to where they're needed? How does one gain or fund account credits? If there's surplus that's not being utilised, can we the community change that, or is it more complicated...?
You can create account credits using your RC's, but you need about 10k HP to generate one then let your RC recharge. We've been claiming accounts since it's been possible and are now putting them to good use, if you want to help and can't claim accounts yourself I'd suggest delegating to @ocdb (you receive daily curation reward returns and we'll claim accounts and create them (currently helping hiveonboard.com with ocdb, ocd for ecency and ocd-witness for our own onboarding program)), though I'd wait with delegating to @ocdb until you see it sending out payouts as it's currently in migration to a new code and dev.
Thanks acidyo,
Okay, I'm not far off, what's the process to do this? Is it done through front-ends or CLI direct with the chain?
@peakd is probably the easiest option at the moment, maybe @ecency has it as well.
Legendary! Thanks acidyo
Thank you for doing this and for the people behind hiveonboard.com. I only discovered this two days ago after having a meeting with my friends who are interested in investing money in hive token.
It is so much easier to bring people to this blockchain. It took me less than three minutes to help my friend open an account a couple of hours ago unlike before they had to wait up to two months!
I just added a widget link in my blogs so I can track the people who just arrived on the platform and not leave them behind. The problem I had before was that I didn't who was those people signed using my link on other social media sites until they leave a comment on my page and I would miss a lot of opportunities curating their content. I will be doing a small meeting in the month of June for new members in my local area.
I wasn't confident of hive blockchain after what happened to Steemit community until recently looking at how some big communities likes yours coming together.
I look forward to more developments in the community and will slowly move some of my investment to hive!
I don't have enough hive power (as of the moment) so I thought a tiny tip would show a little gratification
It sounds like you'd be a perfect fit for our onboarding program, when new members sign up using your link you can generate through us you'll also be notified through a wallet memo and you'll be able to help curate them with a lot more voting power through us to make sure they get a nice welcome. Please get in touch with us after the announcement post so we can let you know more of how it all is going to work and if you're still interested then! And thanks for the tip!
I hope so. I truly believe now that this platform has a lot of potential to grow after learning more about the new developments.
The tip is nothing compared to the efforts you've been doing for the whole community.
That one is just a sample on my fb page. It's just temporary coz I have a lot of msg their people who wants to join the community. So we had to make a quick Photoshoot and no editing yet.
I just started a team this week to help me with the new project. I hired two people (so far) to help me do some research more about the platform, dapps and benefit of potential investors.
My team will also work on making a short video clip to primo hive on other platforms.
It would be great if I can get some useful links and some suggestions from influencer people like you. What would be the best way to reach your team?
Thanks for your time!
Gilaine
I didn't realize what @lovesniper is. What a good tool Acid!
I've been thinking about how I was welcomed into the community years ago and I realized that once I had my account made and my first post, I sent the post to someone on Twitter who had quite a lot of stake on here and they gave me quite a good upvote. That was their campaign at the time on Twitter, encouraging people to share their first posts with them for an upvote.
It really helped me to make me feel welcome in the community!
I am sure that this will be an amazing tool and perhaps something I'd like to be involved in too ;)
Awesome ^^ stay tuned for the announcement post and maybe you can get back involved with ocd ;D
Love sniper is fab, he instantly recognized that I wrote an intro post and congratulated me. And when it got featured in curation compilation it went on steroids. 😍
But my second post fell flat 😞, 00.00. And my third even after being part of a contest is 0.22. It gets discouraging. Because I put in substantial time and efforts. And when I see that a single posted image is getting 2.00 and being more valued than original content.
For love sniper, It is an amazing initiative and I thank it for motivating me to write more. 👏
Please look at the other communities in our incubation, our own community "OCD" is not in our focus for curation at all as it's not a certain niche. I think that's what you could improve on. :)
Great project. I always try to visit at least one of the daily selections by @lovesniper to greet the newbies and throw some upvotes on their intro posts. I am sure this initiative increases the probability of the newbies staying here with us. Thank you for that guys :)
You do a lot of good and needed work, congrats to the whole team.
How can we help with our RC for new account creation? Is there a way to donate RC or, better asked, how do you help @ecency with this and how can we chip in?
My RC is mostly unused. Posting and commenting doesn't deplete it enough :)
Right now, we don't have on-chain RC delegation yet, only option is to delegate HP to @ecency for now with 100% curation reward back to you.
Thanks for the answer.
Is it any help if I delegate 2000 HP?
Of course, any amount is big help! Thank you!
Some time after the hardfork you'll be able to delegate RC's as well, for now HP is the only thing that can help indeed as ecency mentioned below!
OK, while we all wait for the fork ...
@ecency, it's better than nothing :)
Well, at least legit people can actually get accounts now it's being handled by the community as opposed to some other entity back in the days.
I hope people would just realize it's much more beneficial to just be yourself than attempt to cheat and attempt to take shortcuts for rewards. Everything requires some work but there's no easier place to get something back for it than on Hive compared to other centralized platforms. The sooner you start working towards your own account the better connections and attention you'll find over time.
Was wondering if it would be possible to expand on this idea of detecting newcomers and including accounts that have been silent for some time but suddenly reappear. Something like a Welcome Back Awareness Initiative for lack of a better name. Those people fall through the cracks often.
As someone who came back after 3 years, I agree
Had you not told me that just now, I'd still be thinking you're not around. It's nice to see you again!
I think it could be something the lovesniper bot could easily include but I know @rishi556 is extremely busy these days. I thought about it at first but I figured lovesniper would encourage them to post in communities when they do their next posts so the incubation would take care of them (at the same time I've been encouraging community leaders to invite more moderators and help to make sure no posts get missed) and for old members who happen to join maybe some people have been too lazy to clear their following and will notice when they get back. ^^ Also not to sound too harsh but as a bit of a personal preference I'd prefer focusing on new ones than those coming back now after :p
Fair enough. In the past I've suggested receiving a notification if someone on my following list returns after being gone for x amount of time. That was rejected as well. Don't worry. I'm used to it.
I'll just keep doing it the caveman way.
Good morning, happy weekend, it is a pleasure to greet you from Venezuela, I liked your information because there are people who do not like to produce but to repeat, cut and paste and this is a platform that I have been studying and I loved the way the curators analyze each work. Congratulations,
Hmm. That's great thing
Am new on hive I have not even made much post, but I see from your post that this community is great. And I really like the words of @acidyo that "it is better for everyone to be themselves" those words are true, in others words "be yourself". I think am going to love hive and from now on, I will start writing on hive. Thanks for the clear explanation @acidyo
It is a great job you are doing. The truth, the effort that the users have to make a post, the time they dedicate, and every single thing, has a unique value. Okay, they won't always be rewarded with a monetary value, but the appreciation of the public has a much more unique and special value to the artist. I've noticed that there are publications that are not at all appreciated, and they are very good, on the other hand, other publications are quite appreciated and don't exactly have an effort on the part of the publisher. I don't want to say that they are false accounts, but in hive we should value enough the appreciation of the effort that some people exert. In my short time (although I don't have much voting power), I have tried to encourage those people to keep sharing, I comment on them, and I value their art a lot. In the same way those people return my affection, that is why I love hive, it is a mutual support, and I know that as in everything, the monetary valuation must influence a lot but, the truth, for an artist the money only serves to subsist, the most valuable thing is the appreciation of the people in their art. Thanks for your attention :3
wow I really didn't know it was @lovesniper Yeah at first I saw a comment from him but I came to think it was a community. It is amazing how everything is controlled through Bot that can carry out the work and thus make it easier for the server ....
Hi again!
I would like to ask permission if I could use the information at https://hiveonboard.com/what-is-hive for our presentation for an upcoming meeting to introduce hive to some individuals who are interested in joining the community?
Hey, hiveonboard isn't ours, we'll be using it as a front-end to create accounts and invite users to go through it to create the account credits we have , but I doubt @roomservice has anything against it. Also if you want to be able to give people links so they don't have to verify with an SMS reach out to us on Discord. We're still finalizing our onboarding program so haven't gotten to inviting everyone yet!
Oh okay.
Do I need a discord invite? Am actually not on discord so I might need it.
Omg, am so resourceful lol! I found the discord link to your OCD team. I just realized that you're the owner of OCD! 😅
Alright, will reach out to your team soon!
Feel free to use it - everything on hiveonboard.com is open sourced.
You can even fork the project if you like to :)
Thanks!
Haha I'm would fork it if only it got serious with my IT studies back then, but now am only good at using fork on a stake!
Thanks for taking the time to respond though!
btw, the sign up process does not ask for email nor mobile number, just username and took less than 10 seconds to make the account co one of my friends signed up yesterday. Which is really cool.
Although they can't really use all the features if they don't have enough RC, so I had to delegate some HP or send some HP for them to power up.
should we delegate some HP for every personal invite until they have enough HP on their wallet from their earnings, you think?
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Wonderful work you doing on this blockchain seriously!
I myself received some support from you guys and thanks again for everyting! 😎
I'm going to delegate 50HP to @ocd as soon as I have 600-700 HP because your project is really doing a lot of good here on Hive! Bless you 🙏
I got unfollowed by @lovesniper today, are you telling me that this means that now I am officially not a newbie anymore? 🤩 Wonderful ahaha, at first I thought "Oh no, what have I done, they don't like me no mo..." then I got back to this post and reminded myself what @lovesniper was in the first place!
Big up you guys and GO HIVE 😎
Yes! you're finally not a newbie anymore @trippymane congrats on reaching 60 ! if you want to delegate to OCD, you can also do it through OCDB as by delegating to @ocdb you receive daily curation reward returns depending on the amount of HP you delegate.
Wonderful, thank you for letting me know this, I will delegate to @ocdb then!
Everything adds app and even if it's small numbers with time they grow! 😁
Hopefully I should be able to do it before the end of this month!
Wish you a great day! 😎
Gracias por tu voto deseo el mayor de Éxitos en su comunidad.
excellent what a great support @ocdb offers us congratulations