Whoa! What a shitstorm this post has caused and not for the right reasons either!
I can understand why you tagged Every-man-and-his-dog because you wanted to get your message to every [active] user on Hive. The trouble is, the vast majority are just looking for ways to moan daily anyway, so your actions were just a golden opportunity for them plus, on the face of it, it endorses the accusations that you spam. (Spam, sigh, I do wish people knew what spam meant! Spam means untraceable communication, whereas the stuff most people really get is "Unsolicited" communication." a small distinction, but people should get it right.)
I like your post for two reasons.
Firstly, I do like the dual-language presentation. It might have been better with paragraphs rather than mirrored, but I applaud it. While I know there are hundreds if not thousands on Hive that are bi-lingual, I, for one, am a typical lazy Brit and only speak one language.
Secondly, I have no idea who you are or what you've done BUT it seems to me you've been (Hopefully?) open and honest about everything and laid your cards on the table. If people choose to ignore that because they feel they have some weird allegiance to 'celebrities' within the community, then I call "SHEEP!"
What the hell is Hive?
How weird is that? Over the past couple of weeks, I've been involved in several interesting debates vis vee Hive and FREEDOM. The community needs to decide if Hive is a freedom-loving decentralised platform or an autocracy? I do so love it when people lie to themselves by saying they believe in freedom and then, with the next breath, start laying down Codes of Conduct. It has me in hysterics when I see folk on Twitter saying: "Come to freedom-loving #Hive it's decentralised, and your posts cannot be censored, and nobody can close your account." and then the very same people are saying that they don't want the likes of Donald Trump on Hive. Bwahahaha.
Personally, I think the problem is crypto. If there were no financial rewards, just votes, I doubt anyone would give a damn what anybody did, but sadly, the moment money is involved, the the green-eyed monster raises its head and everyone's: "Hmm? That's earning a lot? Is it theirs? Who's voting for them? Whose account is that?" I can't be arsed to put that level of investigative work in. I will hold my hand up and say that I see many puerile, poor and minimalistic posts and scream, "HOW THE FOOK HAS THAT SHIT EARNED SO MUCH?" nobody seems to want to give a definitive answer to the question, "What is Hive?" is it a platform to make a living by blogging? Is it somewhere where people like me can vent their spleen and earn a few shekels here and there? Is it even a blogging platform? I'd say it no longer is now that people can post whatever medium they like, be it video, paintings, photos or even me singing in the bath (I don't actually have a bath). Please, Hive community, stop lying to me and yourselves; we're all in it for the money! There's no shame in that, and it's why you are here and not on Blogger or Tumblr. You came here to earn Crypto, so I'm not sure about berating someone for trying to maximise their return in a Free environment has any validity?
There's a good argument that Your content is your content you should be able to do whatever you like with your own content. So, for example, if you post a colour photo, there should be nothing stopping you the next day from posting the same photo but in black and white. After all, Andy Warhol did it. However, I can see how that might be classed as cheating, so yet again, I have to throw away my freedom values and accept rules.
Finally
Having spent the last half an hour trying to explain that "Freedom means free to do what you like." I have to say I'm still totally against multiple accounts, and holding 30, to be honest, makes me seeth with rage. Last week, a couple of individuals gave me what appeared to be valid reasons for having multiple accounts. While I was grudgingly willing to, shall we say, turn a blind eye, I still really hate it, so, therefore, I too do not truly believe in freedom. 🙁
I'm going to upvote you for your honesty and your right to free speech. I just wish there had been a better way you could have gone about it.
sigh......
You MADE me READ :D
and not just a few words but well-written words and a LOT of them.
I saw this post this morning and the format he did on the dual language thing was made pretty standard a long time ago....... this way you just stay in your lane when reading and you don't feel left out.
Your comment should have been a post.
As always you look at all sides and speak many truths.
Thank YOU for that!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, I considered making it a post halfway through, but! I then considered that possibly half (4000?) or more of the accounts that were tagged might hopefully still be intrigued enough to continue keeping one eye on the developing conversation and so, therefore, posting in the comments section of cranium's post would get my message in front of far more eyes that 150 - 200 that glance at my stuff now and again. 🤣
See, I'm just as bad as everyone else. Even I look at ways of harvesting followers. Bwahaha
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Forever the head of a company :D It is your curse?
Happy Wednesday!!
I go with that. And I know what it means to have multiple accounts and especially because of freedom of speech. But I give a damn about milking rewards. @cranium, if you want rewards, go find some fans and supporters. Being your own best fan with 30 personalities will certainly leave you lonely eventually. My kudos to @dickturpin's comment !ENGAGE 20
Thanks.
Thanks for reading the post and comments. I appreciate your opinion.
If there is such a comment under the text, then the text was definitely not written in vain!
Let's continue our discussion about 30 accounts. On the one hand, it seems to me that 30 accounts is an overkill. But on the other hand, it is not enough for me, for example, to have one account. I have many interests, many roles, and perhaps even several personalities. Therefore, I need at least 3-5 accounts. I feel cramped in one account.
Now back to 30 accounts. If I feel cramped in one account, and good in three or five, can I condemn people who are good in 30 accounts?
I have only one account, and I don't need any more than one account. I don't pretend to be someone else or hide behind a fake persona. Where it's possible, I always give my real name against any nick/username, although to be honest, I've used dickturpin or dick_turpin for over 20 years, so most people know it's me.
Having said all that, I have recently started using SredniVashtar on XMPP and IRC and my Friendica instance, but again, all my friends know it's me.
Its not too difficult to assume that @amphlux and @amphlux.dlux might both be owned by the same person, me. There are technical blockchain related reasons to have more than one account, just saying.
Yep. That's what @erh.germany or @wil.metcalfe said to me (Can't remember which one, I have a terrible short term memory). The reason they have extra accounts is to ensure Hive doesn't get involved or something? I have no interest in the technical stuff of Hive and the intricacies of voting on a Tuesday while standing on one leg and reciting The Free Software Song staring unblinkingly for ten minutes at a picture of Joey Ramone.
I simply like to write stuff. 😉
I am, of course, a hypocrite too! I can't exactly evangelise about FREEDOM and then demand that people with multiple accounts should be burnt at the stake. 🤣
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I have only one account, to make that clear :)
HaHa, we are all hypocrites. :D
It really depends on which perspective you take, that of one individual (yourself) or that of many others. Multiple accounts are an impossibility in real life because you only have one body with which to do business and actions. In the virtual world, however, such a thing is possible. Of course, you know that.
Box of Pandora?
Since such a thing is now possible and there is no way to prevent it, unless you make the entry level so high that, for example, in order to register an account, you either require verification via an identity document or a purchase for a large sum (which would still not prevent someone with a lot of money from buying multiple accounts). Usually, the reason for pseudonyms is that, for example, an author was politically persecuted and therefore had to do without his or her real name. Anonymity in a world where a person had to fear for his life or his financial stability and reputation is important. Keyword "whistleblower".
But the fact that one maintains several accounts on Hive is probably more of a fun element or an experiment on the part of the person acting. Or, unfortunately, also to enrich oneself personally through circle voting without having to rely on other users. Personally, I would consider it too much energy expenditure to maintain more than one account.
The problem with multiple fake accounts is that it can distort and influence processes in such a way that, for example, opinion-forming online can be extremely manipulated. Just imagine that a single person creates hundreds of accounts and then uses them to manipulate an election. Bot farms are an expression of this phenomenon. From my point of view, it is control fanatics who use something like this. Or fools who want to shake up the world. Of course, it is the fools who often point out a flaw in the system.
Therefore, the election of witnesses is not completely secure here either. Who wants to know how many individuals cast their vote through multiple accounts? Question still remains, if the opposite forces (also holding multiple accounts) still balance things out.
Lord Voldemort, however, finally failed in cutting his soul into seven pieces :)
Great points listed here. And I too only have 1 posting account on HIVE, this one, and my alt accounts are named the same name just with a tag at the end.
For me, alt accounts are mostly there for security, technical and yea, fun reasons. But your point does stand. I wouldn't be so much worried about 1 person making 10 accounts to sway/influence, I would be more worried about a crew of 10 people making a few hundred accounts to swap opinion. That's when it gets scary.
Thanks :)
I'm also not that concerned about an individual having multiple accounts. I'm convinced anyway that there are always only a few criminals and most people stick to rules or if not, they don't do much harm. The scenario you describe is also possible, of course. When things like this happen, that a few exert influence on a great many people, I make a point of not believing certain news and messages or think they smell bad. I am often sceptical and do not immediately believe everything that the trend picks up or spreads, especially when little seems allowed outside the trend.
People are not stupid, unfortunately they are often too afraid to go against a trend or to seek their interest elsewhere because they don't want to be marginalised. Which is also understandable.
What do you mean by technical or security reasons for the other accounts?
The biggest reasons for me to have more than 1 HIVE account are technical and security reasons. I wanted to spin up a dlux.io node just to see if I could, but I didn't want to use my main overall @amphlux HIVE account to do so. (I didn't want to use my accounts keys, specifically) So for a tech/security reason, I made @amphlux.dlux for that node. There are a few more reasons I could list for having alt accounts, but we are semi talking about 2 different things here. I'm pretty sure you mean "having more than 1 account that you actively post with maybe even with different personas"
I do understand your point, don't get me wrong. I am @amphlux and I have been since 2006. It is my name on the online world, and its pretty easy to search around and find who the person is behind the name, I'm pretty open about it.
I've added you to my "Bad Boys" list. bwahahaha
I'm more concerned about the circle jerk voting, to be honest, and the possibility that some of the 'extra' accounts could get votes if they post, which in turn would increase their voting power for their own upvoting of the main account.
As I said, I shouldn't moan, really, given my views on Freedom. 🤣
Well maybe if I give ya some !LUV and !PIZZA you will forgive me :D
@dickturpin, you were given LUV from @amphlux. About LUV: https://peakd.com/@luvshares
I’m the one with 3+ accounts. My intended use is for branding purposes. Different entities with different functionalities deserve their own account. For example: @BeachReady is a fitness company dedicated to Reps. @AdventureReady is a fitness company dedicated to Steps. And @OneMoreNutrition (a newer account I’m still developing more) is a nutrition company dedicated to... well! Nutrition! These are good examples of legitimate reasons to have other accounts are they not? 😉
I only have one account also........
okay I have 3.....one was for posting gaming videos cuz at the time peeps didn't like it when you posted blog posts with "I am live playing XYZ" but I lost the keys to that account :D and yes, got yelled at by the big Guy........... who in turn now has a spare set of my keys :D
I do not have time for more than one account. Plus I have nothing to hide.
I also do not urge to hide behind different nicknames and accounts. But when a person is interested in different things, for example, physics, baking pies and breeding ants, then writing about all this from one account will not be very appropriate. As the author himself will be uncomfortable, so will his readers.
But thats where tags come in and communities. You can create a community for each subject and post relevant topics from there.
Thanks for the awesome comment !!! Now I am at a loss, I can not decide which is better than your comment or my message.
I decided - your comment! As long as there are people like you who are not sorry to spend time writing such a masterpiece, HIVE has a future.
It would seem only the naughty boys (are you naughty?) rave about my contributions (Apart from my longtime supporter, you know who you are). If only I were that good, I wouldn't still be a smidge up from krill surviving on delegations after being on Steem then Hive since 2017 😉 🤣
I just like posting now and again. It's not my source of income, and I like earning the odd groat for what I post. I'm not going to lie. Yes, I'd love to be up there in the $100 plus reward bracket, but I'm not, so there's no point in worrying about it or trying to find ways to stop others from earning those levels. I can be a twat sometimes, but I come from the FOSS community, so I know about freedom, free software yadder yadder and therefore have over 20 years of experience discussing freedom of choice.
The reply I gave wasn't a phishing exercise. I truly believe in and stand behind every word I wrote.
Good Luck with fighting the 2% with all the power “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” 😉
Probably, I already got even more than I expected. I am not so much worried about the deprivation of awards for publications, as much as the fact that this is another fate, which I cannot ignore - I will have to change something in my pleasant routine.