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I can't count the times I've heard people say they considered buying a rental property before they bought a home but they didn't want to be a landlord. There's a reason for it, you either pay people like VC to do all that work or you learn to do it yourself. In that regard it's more than just an investment, it often times comes with a whole lot of sweat equity put into it. When I bought mine, I was working 40 to 60 hours a week, had two toddlers, and after having come home from work, get the kids settled, made dinner, mowed the lawn, I'd have to go next door and work the rest of the night. I actually prefer people stay two to three years over five, six or seven because the amount of remodeling needing to be done increases each additional year they stay there. Then you have to have it inspected every few years which comes with it owns demands. On the other hand, I've never been a greedy landlord trying to take the every dime some people make. I've actually helped a whole lot of young couples be able to save for their own homes, I've had more people moved out buying their own place than those who have not. I am always below market rate, now a days quite a bit lower. I live in a high demand area where people are paying thousands to rent some of the houses around me and I am below a thousand for a three bedroom duplex. When I don't want people knowing all my business, like doing surveys for example, I just put down landlord despite it's not a full time job, doesn't mean it doesn't add up to that at times because it does. Being good at it means learning a whole lot of skills, and if it doesn't mean going up on the main roof or getting into the main electrical panel, furnace, repair, I can usually fix anything.

I'm sorry crapitalism put you on the treadmill that was all that.
Not much I can do about it, people refuse to read the books that would give them the concepts that make crapitalism obsolete, or most any other book, either.

You've clearly illustrated that you are not a trust fund baby with thousands of apartments that you will never see.

ps....I can't even determine if I should upvote that silly meme, lol.

You don't have to, I try not to notice who does and doesn't.
Most days I succeed.
Mostly I track those that comment, thanks for that.

It's somewhat of an ongoing challenge to persuade people that it's okay to discuss politics on Hive, and okay to disagree.

I'm almost always more likely to learn something interesting or of substance in discussion with someone who disagrees with me.

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If all we ever here is things we agree with, we can be led down the primrose path, but you can't tell that to people edumacated by the united snakes, they will not hear it.

If all we ever here is things we agree with, we can be led down the primrose path

There's nothing more boring to a blogger than a comment board full of people in agreement. Sure you may within the first few comments get some good giggles off some stabs to the other side, but it wears off quickly as it goes on and there's no counterpoints.

I've thought about this some, I homeschooled myself after the 9th grade, but I'm from a family of readers.

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Yeah, my mom got me started early, too.
I'd read 1984 by the age of 11.
She told me about BNW, but I don't remember finding a copy to read until much later.
I became an anarchist in 1985.
But, it all didn't really start coming together until alex jones on coasttocoastam in 2004.

They don't have to burn books when nobody reads them.™





https://archive.org/details/ironhee00lond/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/lookingbackward01bellgoog https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/alexander-berkman-what-is-communist-anarchism https://archive.org/details/THESURVIVOR1

Any one of those books could give people most of the concepts that make crapitalism obsolete, but like the mantra says, people don't read.

You have clearly never maintained a rental property, and whoever believes that meme has no idea which end of a hammer to hold. I currently maintain several dozen properties, most of which are rented, and I can assure you that working with a jackhammer on Monday, belly crawling under another home later that day, filling potholes in a driveway yesterday, and the constant attention to keeping the properties clean of garbage that tenants just fling out of their cars or drop instead of dumping in a proper receptacle very much resembles actual work.

It is actually retarded to think renting a property is somehow just minting money out of thin air. Only someone that has never undertaken the blood, sweat, and tears necessary to purchase, market, and maintain real property could be so ignorant.

Thanks!

Yes, property management can be a job, but owning without working is a different matter.

The way it was explained to me was that I didn't make the hammer that built 'my' house, I didn't drain the rubber tree that makes up my tires, I didn't butcher the cow that my cobbler turned into the shoes on my feet, in fact, there is nothing, not one thing in my life that was made solely and distinctly by me alone, ergo, all that I have, and all that I can have, comes as a result of the workers before me doing the work that they did.

To think that something is exclusively mine is to deny ownership of all the people who did work to get me to the point I am at.

This is why Property is Theft.

We are each obligated to do one share of the work and in return we get one share of all the labor.
What that means will vary, individually.
The doctor will not wait in line at the theatre.
The soldier will never have to pay for a beer.
Local heroes will get all the girls.
Local bums might get some, too.
But, only on the off chance that they turn out some 'good' kids.

No man is, nor can be, an island.
You can find them, you can live like you are on one, but you can't deny your parents contribution.
I'd be surprised to find many folks that live with zero crapitalust interactions.
It can be done, but most won't.

"The way it was explained to me was that I didn't make the hammer that built 'my' house, I didn't drain the rubber tree that makes up my tires, I didn't butcher the cow that my cobbler turned into the shoes on my feet, in fact, there is nothing, not one thing in my life that was made solely and distinctly by me alone, ergo, all that I have, and all that I can have, comes as a result of the workers before me doing the work that they did."

This is very true. However, those blessings don't just land on us like coconuts out of a tree. We have to undertake to exchange for them. Real property is highly desirable, and a lot must be exchanged for it. What you have earned is actually and literally wholly and completely yours, and to claim you have stolen it is a lie of the devil. Just plug your ears and say 'Lalalalala' really loud, and eventually the liars will go away.

"...zero crapitalust interactions..."

No living thing can. However, what you really mean is no financial interactions, because even Communists need to buy bread, or buy the ingredients and make it with a stove they bought and some power they also buy. Every microbe that divides to create a fresh copy of it invests capital to profit. Life itself is Capitalism.

You don't want to hear that. The real enemy you should be fighting is Centralization, which is the real reason real Communism has never been tried, just as it's the real reason real Capitalism hasn't either, at least by any financial system.

Okay, you can dodge and weave, cope and seethe now.

Communists need to buy bread,

No, in fact there is a book that addresses specifically this.
Communists don't use money.
This is how we know https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia.

The real enemy you should be fighting is Centralization,

No, the 'enemy' is the idea that these people get to kill those people because reasons.
As long as people accept that rule by force is acceptable we will always be ruled over as slave of those the most effective at hiding their violence.

Okay, you can dodge and weave, cope and seethe now.

No need, I'm right.
Our disagreement is largely semantic and academic.
Sound money goes a long ways towards alleviating the need to illustrate the differences between an-com and crapitalism, but the fact remains, communism shares so that none live in poverty and crapitalism will starve you outside overflowing warehouses.

"...communism shares..."

No, it doesn't. It may sometimes start out that way, but sooner or later someone takes the money, or starts an institution, and that inherently corrupts the process by it's agents seeking to aggrandize it's power, and that becomes a vector for corruption, and before you know it Bob's your uncle and you have overlords and crime bosses running things again. Now, I'm not saying non-communist government is any better, but I am saying that some magic word isn't salvation.

Salvation comes from freedom, and that comes from being independently able to produce wealth and exchange it as you please, without being a subsidiary of a corrupt institution or subjugated to overlords parasitizing your production. Decentralization, not politics, is freedom, and centralization, of Communism, and everything else, is slavery.

Man, I wish you would read those books I keep pushing, the education you have gotten from your owners purposely obfuscates the real meanings of the words.

What better way to hide the doorway out of enslavement than by so vilifying the terms needed to escape that one would never even think of adopting what was needed to escape the mental enslavement?

Here we are.
Read the books, please.
Attain the concepts.
Realize, not only that you are wrong, but that you have been misled to the wrong conclusions by people that gain their power by your ignorance.

We have to have workers, we don't have to have dollars.™
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

On any given tuesday the workers can simply continue to produce the world's goods and refuse to play the crapitalusts' game of money majick.
The world will not only continue consumption, but will do it with leisure time that used to have to be spent in wage slavery to slake the crapitalusts' greed.

IF your boss isn't making, at least, double your wages in profits, he will soon be bankrupt.
It's just how crapitalust enslavement works.

Or, you can set me straight by debunking the math of chapter nine of this book.

Land belongs to nature, not a human.

So, where do you lay your head at night?

Will u be able to do it forever?

You sleep somewhere. Someone gives you permission to sleep there. You depend on landowners for your daily abode, and so does everyone else.

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