Hello, I'm here with the 5th part of a series about the basic things in Hive. My aim in this series is also to increase the Turkish and English resources in Hive. Sometimes people are curious about specific things and want to read about it. In such cases, I think these topics will be useful. Today's topic is Downvotes.
Why Are There Downvotes?
If you have used other Web 3 platforms before, you may notice that some of them don't have a downvote system. There are some pros and cons to this system, but I think there are more pros. I mentioned downvotes in my Plagiarism post. On many platforms, people try to make money by farming different abuses. They can be successful to some extent because it's not always easy to recognize and catch them, but downvotes are necessary so that when they are caught they don't continue to benefit from the platform. I have personally seen dozens of identity thieves, plagiarists and AI content creators downvoted, and I have downvoted some of them myself. There is a saying on Hive that unless you see your rewards in the wallet, they don't belong to you. In short, downvotes are necessary to prevent abuse.
The bad thing about downvotes is that some people abuse them. Someone might downvote you just because they don't like you, or because you don't share the same opinion. There may be no reason at all, just a random downvote. If this vote has no value, ignore it, usually such people have very little voting power. If you get a big downvote, you can ask the person who downvoted you why they did it. Usually there is a reason and there is nothing to fear. No one will downvote you regularly unless you have done something wrong on purpose. Sometimes the reason for downvoting is to balance the prize pool. You may have noticed that sometimes some posts get more votes than they should. In this case, some whales balance the prize pool by downvoting the post slightly.
What Should You Consider When Downvoting?
You can use downvotes however you like, but there may be a fallback. Therefore, I recommend not to use it randomly. If you see an abusive user on Hive, a scammer or something similar, you can downvote them. Other than that, I advise you not to point the gun at others XD
Thank you for reading, downvotes are something that many people on the Hive shy away from but should be normal when used correctly. If you think that there is a lack of information or an inaccuracy in this post, please share it in the comments. Take care and have a great day! You can find the other posts in the series below.
Hive 101 with Incublus
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Merhabalar, Hive'daki temel şeyleri anlattığım serinin 5. bölümüyle karşınızdayım. Bu seride amacım aynı zamanda Hive'daki Türkçe ve İngilizce kaynakları artırmak. Bazen insanlar spesifik şeyleri merak ediyor ve onu okumak istiyor. Böyle durumlarda bu konu başlıklarının kullanışlı olacağını düşünüyorum. Bugünün konusu Aşağı Oylar yani Downvotes.
Neden Aşağı Oy Var?
Daha önce başka Web 3 platformlarını kullandıysanız bazılarında aşağı oy sisteminin olmadığını görebilirsiniz. Bu sistemin bazı artı ve eksileri var ama ben artı yönlerinin daha fazla olduğunu düşünüyorum. Aşağı oylardan size İntihal gönderimde bahsetmiştim. Birçok platformda insanlar farklı kötüye kullanımlarla para kazanmaya yani farming yapmaya çalışırlar. Bir aşamaya kadar da başarılı olabilirler çünkü onları fark etmek ve yakalamak her zaman kolay olmuyor ama yakalandıklarında platformdan fayda sağlamaya devam etmemeleri için aşağı oylar gereklidir. Ben şahsen onlarca kimlik hırsızının, intihalcinin ve yapay zekayla içerik üretenlerin aşağı oylandığını gördüm ve bazılarını kendim de aşağı oyladım. Hive'da şöyle bir söz var, ödüllerinizi cüzdanda görmediğiniz sürece o ödüller size ait değildir. Kısacası kötüye kullanımı önlemek adına aşağı oylar gereklidir.
Aşağı oyların kötü yanı ise bazı insanların onu kötüye kullanmasıdır. Biri sadece sizi sevmediği için aşağı oylayabilir ya da düşünceleriniz aynı olmadığı için. Ortada hiçbir sebep olmayabilir de, sadece rastgele bir aşağı oy size gelmiş olabilir. Eğer bu oyun bir değeri yoksa onu önemsemeyin, genelde bu tarz insanların oy gücü çok azdır. Eğer büyük bir aşağı oy aldıysanız sizi aşağı oylayan kişiye bunu neden yaptığını sorabilirsiniz. Genelde ortada bir sebep vardır ve korkacak bir şey yoktur. Kasıtlı olarak bir yanlış yapmadığınızda kimse sizi düzenli olarak aşağı oylamaz. Bazen de aşağı oylamanın sebebi ödül havuzunu dengelemektir. Siz de bazen bazı gönderilerin olması gerektiğinden daha çok oy aldığını fark etmişsinizdir. Bu durumda bazı balinalar gönderiyi bir miktar aşağı oylayarak ödül havuzunu dengeliyor.
Aşağı Oylarken Nelere Dikkat Etmelisiniz?
Aşağı oyları dilediğiniz gibi kullanabilirsiniz ancak bunun bir geri dönüşü olabilir. Bu yüzden onu rastgele kullanmamanızı tavsiye ederim. Hive'da kötüye kullanan bir kullanıcı, bir dolandırıcı ya da buna benzer bir şey görürseniz onu aşağıya oylayabilirsiniz. Bunun dışında silahı başkalarını doğrultmamanızı tavsiye ederim XD
Okuduğunuz için teşekkür ederim, aşağı oylar Hive'da pek çok insanın çekindiği ama doğru kullanıldığında normal karşılanması gereken bir konu. Eğer bu gönderide bir bilgi eksikliği ya da yanlışlığı olduğunu düşünüyorsanız lütfen yorumlarda paylaşmayı unutmayın. Kendinize iyi bakın ve harika bir gün geçirin! Serinin diğer gönderilerini aşağıda bulabilirsiniz.
I wish more people used them. Seven when I was a minnow I did but I understand the fear of retaliation. Once I downvoted a scammer and he got me with a trail of his scam accounts. There must have been a hundred odd all downvoting me. It was intense!
This can be much more daunting when you're a small minnow. Let's be realistic, nobody wants to get a downvote here when they want to grow their account because it affects even the votes that come later. But I think at some stage you have to make your account grow enough and then you have to do the right thing.
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Very wonderful topic bro..in my opinion it's so crucial to balance power with responsibility, especially when it comes to downvotes. Misuse undermines trust, but I think with community vigilance, they can defend against abuse and maintain fairness on the Blockchain... Can't wait for this topic to be raised by the Witnesses
Mostly community is successful about it. We can fight against abuse together but we all know there might be misunderstandings and no reason downvotes as well
Absolutely big bro
Thanks for sharing this useful info! I hope newbies will see this and not freak out if they get a downvote
That is true, but the problem is in this statement "when used correctly". That's the reason why I'm against downvotes as they give the opportunity to some people to abuse them... We should put this topic back on the table and figure out a better solution, that can't be "abused and used incorrectly"... One under everyone is equal and can't be bullied...
You are right but what can we do? Do you have any solution? If we remove downvotes then scammers can farm a lot of Hive
The solution is dialogue and will to find a better solution... But, at the moment, there is no will to do anything on a "higher level"...
I didn't say that we have to remove downvotes and do nothing... I said that we should try to find a solution that would replace downvotes... that is coded into the blockchain and can't be abused...
You can't find the solution for a problem if you are not brainstorming about it, isn't it like that? It requires experimenting and downvotes are exactly that, our first experiment to fight plagiarism and abuse... Now, we can try to experiment with other solutions, and find the better one...
Why don’t we talk about that at today’s show?
It's your show... If you want to kill the vibe, bring it up... 😃
I saw the announcement post for the show where you said "Nothing about HIVE", and everyone was delighted by that... 😂 Imagine bringing up the "downvote" topic... hahahaha
Hmm let's do it next week then as you said 😂😂 I should be consistent 😅
Completely agree with you big brother, this feature certainly creates a chance for people to bully others
That's a nice explanation bro. I hate it when there is power in the wrong hands and they use it just to show others that they are the king.
Btw ever confronted dv in your starting days?😅
Me? No, I don't post very interesting things these days, maybe that's why XD But I've had posts that reached very high values months ago get downvoted.
I once heard about this but it sounded funny to me but I think it's real now.
Insightful 💯🙌
Funny or not that's real 😂😂
Bence downvote mekanizması faydalı. Yanlış ellerde kötü niyetli kullanımları olabilir tabii ki ama dediğin gibi çoğunun değeri olmayacaktır. Ayrıca topluluk mekanizması bence Hive içindeki en güçlü kültürlerden birisi ve yanlış ya da kasti downvote için bir denge oluşturuyor.
Kesinlikle, doğru insanlarla iletişime geçersen senin için seni aşağı oylayan kişiyle iletişime bile geçebilirler. Bu tabi ki biraz da Hive'da edindiğin çevre ile ilgili.
What of getting downvoted by a whale cus you offended them outside hive? Ain't that bad
Yeah, that must feel awful. Believe me, there is not much you can do about it except talk to the whale and work it out. I wish I could help you.
I get you bro, I honestly feel downvotes shouldn't be a thing. Rather, there should be something like a report button
Please check the post that I published yesterday and maybe you can join our voice talk and we can brainstorm about it
Instructions unclear. Should I down vote this post?
Or you can tell me what is unclear and I can fix it 😂