[Blue Dream × Lemon Diesel] Update

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This update is strictly about the [Blue Dream x Lemon Diesel] Level One Tester seeds that I recently got from Irvine Seed Company, but unfortunately, it doesn't have the ending that I was personally expecting!

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In my last post, all of these ISC plants had received a (much needed) transplant, and I was a little worried that I had waiting a little too long to move them into their new homes!

It's been a little while since I posted the last ISC tester update, and I feel like it's time to show you all they progress these plants have made since that time!

This specific plant is a Regular Photoperiod strain, so I'm unsure as of yet if it will be a male or female, but after all this time, I really hope it is a female!

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During the time spent in the closet setup, I was keeping that small 60W light on all the time; 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. This is mainly because of how small the light was, but also because Macronut said that he runs all of his plants on a 24 hour light cycle until he's ready to switch his Photoperiods into flower!

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I wanted to go ahead and see how the plants responded to this, so I went ahead and followed the same schedule! The light itself was a little small for all the plants we had, but I feel like keeping the light on did help with light penetration, and making sure that the plants had the light they needed to survive.

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Just like our other plants, I moved these beauties into the tent on November 29th, and attempted to start an 18-6 light cycle. The only reason I'm starting to limit the light hours is due to the energy costs of running a Metal Halide lamp!

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I have to admit, I haven't been the best at keeping a consistent 18-6, and have more often than not left the lights running for more than 24 hours before shutting them off.

I don't have a timer yet, so I have to manually unplugging the light, and sometimes it just skips my mind! But, once the light does get turned off, the tent remains undisturbed for 6 hours before starting another light cycle.

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I started giving this plant some Grow Big Nutrients to see if I can combat the discoloration on the leaves. As you can see, the issues start at the bottom of the plant and working its way up, which could be a number of possibilities!

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I ended up trying my hand at topping for the first time on December 3rd, and got this one right around the 7th node! This is the first time I've attempted to top my plants, so I really hope that it goes well!

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It seemed to respond pretty well to the topping, and even though the discoloration is still there, the plant is looking healthier in my opinion!

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I've also tried to keep my watering to a minimum with these plants, and I've been giving this plant about 2 cups per water every feeding, alternating between regular water and the Grow Big nutrients.

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It does seem to respond well after feedings, but the discoloration still remains an issue! I'm unsure if this is due to root lock, a pH imbalance, or something else entirely, but it something I will continue to monitor closely!

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This plant is also starting to smell now, and the leaves are starting to get pretty sticky looking too! Personally, I think it smells pretty gassy, like you'd expect from a diesel strain, but also with a hint of a citrus, and overall, it smells pretty sweet too!

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Other than the discoloration of the leaves, being almost bleached white at the bottom of the plant, this strain did respond well to being topped, and in my opinion, is a very resilient strain!

I can't wait to see how this plant continues to grow, and hopefully I am able to figure out the issues this plant is having, because as of right now, it's the only plant that seems to be suffering from some sort of deficiency!

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I did end up removing the bottom sets of leaves since they were suffering so badly from whatever deficiency this plant is ailing from!

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I continued to alternate between water and nutrients, as well as limit the amount that I fed it, to right about 2 cups per feeding! I did continue to monitor it closely, checking on them multiple times throughout the day.

But, unfortunately, I did notice that this plant was in fact a male on December 19th! This is truly upsetting to me, and while I knew there was the possibility, Blue Dream is one of our favorite strains and I was really looking forward to growing this one out!

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I'm not entirely sure if this one was just destined to be a male, which is entirely possible, or if the stress of the transplant in combination with the small pot was enough to encourage a sex change or not. But, that's also just apart of growing regular seeds, you never know what you will get!

As I'm not really in a position to keep males for cross breeding purposes, I went ahead and pulled the pot out of the tent, and disposed of it as quickly as possible!

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So, unfortunately, that will bring an end to this plant, and although this was intended to be the start of a new strain series, it's unfortunately the only post about this specific strain! Hopefully I'll be able to try out another Blue Dream strain one day, but I guess it just wasn't meant to be this time!

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Thanks for stopping by, and I hope you all have a great week! Don't forget to tune-in next time for another "After Hours" Update! Stay Trippy, My Little Hippies! ✌️💚

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Bummer it turned out to be a male. Damn i miss having my secret garden :'(

Awesome post BRO :)

It is upsetting, but everything happens for a reason! And I didn't know you have grown before! If you don't mind me asking, what made you stop?

That's unfortunate that it turned out male, but otherwise seemed pretty healthy.
The discoloration it's hard to tell, but I am a little curious about how you were watering them.

You mentioned two cups of water each watering. How many days in between watering did you administer the two cups?

I suspect underwatering could have been a factor, because I do not think two cups would be sufficient for this size plant in that bucket.

To start out with partial waterings for small plants that don't have a developed root system is a good practice, but once the plant starts leaving that seedling stage and has a well developed root system you'll want to give full even watering and allow a couple days of absorption and drying before watering again.

Once plants are in full bloom they will be sucking up a gallon of water a day in that bucket. The further along the plant matures, the more thirsty it gets.

You're doing really good with this bro and I wouldn't be surprised if you've already figured out that they suck up water at a much fast rate once they start flowering. (especially under those higher powered lights.)

Keep up the great work!

It is a little unfortunately to be honest, partly because it was as healthy as it was! There is always the chance with regular seeds, but even though you know there is a possibilty, it still sucks..I wish I could have kept it alive and separated from the others, so hopefully one day I can get a small tent for males!

Honestly with watering, I just watered any time I thought they needed it - although I fully believe underwatering could have been an issue! I kind of stopped measuring at the end and just went with my gut on how much it needed and when, but I do agree that I most likely was underwatering it due to its size!

Thank you for those kind words brother! I know I'm not an expert by any means, and I still have so much to learn, but I do feel connected to my plants! In a way, I kind of feel like this has been my calling..like this is something I was born to do! 💚

But yes, I have definitely noticed that the plants suck up a lot of water in flower, and the lights evaporate a lot of that moisture as well, and they also make the tent pretty humid! I'm sure the humidity levels would change with an LED, but if I keep the HPS long-term, I may have to invest in a dehumidifier at some point! 🤣

And also -

To start out with partial waterings for small plants that don't have a developed root system is a good practice, but once the plant starts leaving that seedling stage and has a well developed root system you'll want to give full even watering and allow a couple days of absorption and drying before watering again.

At what point do you feel like a seedlings root system is well developed? I feel like I've been underestimating on my timelines during the seedling and vegetative stages, which is why I missed the optimal training for my auto testers! And while I understand autos grow quicker, and go through the seedling and vegetative state quicker, the growth during those stages are still relatively similar!

With root development it can sometimes vary from plant to plant. It's more of a feeling out thing, and you'll see what I mean over time I'm sure. Conservatively speaking it's usually 2-3 weeks before they are out of that seedling stage with rapid root development. This time is critical so we don't want to starve those roots of the most essential ingredient they need to sustain that growth!

You'll also start to notice weight wise how fast they suck up water. It's harder in bigger heavier containers though. I like to start out in paper cups and move up in size slowly, but sometimes we have to just work with what we have available to us as well and just make it work :D

Keep on rocking bro, you're doing a great job! 👍

Awesome! Thank you for that man! This will definitely help out on this next tester run I'm starting! I'm going to be attempting bottom feeding, and with them being in 2 gallon smart pots, I need to make sure the root system is well established before I start to ensure the roots will stretch and seek the water from the bottom of the container!

I hope it will be a little easier to tell by weight from bottom feeding in smart pots too, because I have noticed that to be an issue as well!

Thank you brother, I appreciate your kind words! ✌🏼💚

He looks like a male but it's not clear, rightly as you say, it could also be due to the stress of the topping, I also had hermaphrodism after the topping. Let's hope it's a girl, because it's very beautiful, have a good weekend friend.

Thank you @mangopie, I hope you are having a good weekend as well!

While it is possible it could have hermed because of the topping, I have also heard that some strains (depending on the genetics of the specific seed) could be more prone to hermaphrodite than others, so that could have been a factor as well!

It is very true, especially in plants with genetics that come from many crossings, it is easy to recall some genes tending towards hermaphroditism.

You are safest with undercrossed or landrace plants.

But often those with unstable genetics are the ones that give you amazing surprises sometimes.

Yes man, thank you, I'm having a nice relaxing weekend, I hope yours too 😉.

One of my plants hermed from my first grow actually, and produced seeds! I saved them, and they're tucked away in a container for now..but I was planning on growing a few out in the future and see how they do!

But I'm also worried they'd be more predisposed to herming since they came from a hermaphrodite plant - but it would be interesting to see the results!

That's awesome to hear! And thank you! Mine hasn't been too bad either! 💚

Friend sorry for the tremendous delay with which I reply! You did great keeping the seeds, the same thing happened to me with DNA's Cherry Pie #18, which is the mother of all the plants I grew in the last cycle and in what I'm doing now.

Even if it is true that in their genetics there is a predisposition to become Hermaphrodites, this does not necessarily happen, because in my previous cycle none of the plants formed bananas or seeds, or rather 1 single seed in 130 grams of weed, and they were all female as they are all female this cycle too, 13 out of 13 overall. Now I turned into flowering recently, but for the moment I don't see hermaphrodite bananas, let's hope that all goes well with that too.

So you did very well to keep the seeds! Sorry again for the delay, have a wonderful day ;). !WEED

Oh wow that's awesome! I was wondering how the seeds would work out in that regard, if the would be feminized or not, but that give me a lot of hope! Thank you for this awesome information! I'll definitely have to test them and see how they do!

No worries about the delay! I understand completely! Hope you have an awesome week Mango! 💚

Today I answer right away, I'm making progress 😁... I think I was also lucky because some males can always be found, but according to theories the seeds of a female plant that creates some male bananas and pollen due to stress, it should create 80-90% feminized seeds. Sort of a natural reaction to protect the species and create other females prone to hermaphroditism if they get stressed.

They are F1 plants, so very strong and vigorous and will produce even more than the mothers, but you have to be careful not to stress them too much with cuts, light changes, and bending, otherwise it will create male flowers again.

From what I've studied and experienced on my own, it's more or less like this, then you too know well that nature often goes its own way and surprises in various ways.

Happy week to you too friend 😉!

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