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RE: War Story - The scariest moment of staying in the basement after the invasion

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We never wanted this war...

Who's "we"?

You should talk on behalf of the 12000 dead in Donbass, on the rebel side. They don't have a voice, and they didn't attack Ukraine, but Ukraine waged war on them. You think their families and friends are heard in Ukraine, in the West, do they even have a voice? Did the people in Odessa who got chased as they fled the pro mobilization protesters who cornered and barricaded them in a building before setting it on fire killing who knows how many, stabbing and beating the charred protesters who fell from the flaming building, were they for War? Did they want war? Why is there still no justice for them? In Mariupol they claimed the protesters had or threw Molotov cocktails, as the excuse for that civilian massacre, then they just denied report after report of war crimes, denied indiscriminate bombings, denied targeting of civilians, and businesses, infrastructure, utilities, city centers, schools, kindergartens, as the militants sent to replace the army who got turned around by the protesters used civilians as shields and used schools and kindergartens as bases to wage war from, as they pillaged, raped, and executed civilians. No one wants to hear them, no one wants to look at that, 8 years, 12000 dead on the rebel side, that's the war, you claim nobody wanted.

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Dude get a grip on yourself. Your accusations that she was anything more than a powerless victim in the face of the powers at play are presumptuous at best. Unless you know otherwise use your energy on a well written opinion piece and stop trying to guilt trip an already traumatized individual who is yet still just another victim.

That I can agree with you on, what you said to her I can't.

First, like I've said on other post. If 89% of the people want to be under Russian rule than the other 11% should just move. They shouldn't be waging war against civilians, I don't care what sort of ancestral claims they may have to a land, they are 11%. Move. It would be the equivalent of you, I or anybody who grew up in a particular area and one day it became a majority African American, Asian or Latino area. Unless you don't mind living as a minority in a neighborhood than stay, if you don't want to live as a minority in your neighborhood than move. It's simple.

The only one really giving you the truth in this video is the lady speaking of the elderly, the ladies on the balcony are biased from prior to the war and what was happening. The lady talking about the elderly had it right when she said it's like "they" are playing ping pong....which they are and the people are stuck in the middle for the most part. But what I've said on another post is, and this lady seems to back that up by saying they hit a place where only the elderly live and he asked why would they be shelling the elderly. Well let me tell you why. Because they are elderly, so many elderly in fact Ukraine has four retirees for every two workers. They've hit their 2030 quota of failure that spun the virus upon the world. We all know it's because of greed by a few why Ukraine can't pull itself out of the hole it's in but the fact remains that their social pension system can't support the retirees. They can't dig themselves out from underneath it no matter how hard they try and the virus just didn't manage to do the job they obviously were hoping for. Ukraine has reached unsustainable economic devastation. My own personal opinion is that what we are witnessing is the build back better agenda in action. They are going to tear it down to the ground, when the dust settles they are hoping they've eliminated a big part of their problem, way to many elderly. Time will tell but it may not end there even though there are claims they are trying to work things out. I say that because Europe as a whole has a lot of countries who have aging populations higher than the average. On top of the fact that some of these countries are still too predominately white and racist for the globalist they want to fix what they consider to be a problem, to many white folks, to many conservatives.

Now this is a bit early in the game to be a call out but the global players want every country in a transition to a cleaner climate. Now most people are speculating that is why Russia is fighting them because fossil fuels are their money maker and they supply a lot of that to Europe. So the globalist say that when they say cleaner they mean cleaner than what's already being used. So if they lay on the US and Europe to transition to electric and China to transition to fossil fuels than to them that is cleaner than coal. (at least to them) So what would be a bigger market for Russia, China or Europe? My opinion is since Ukraine is a smorgasbord of minerals prime for their clean energy needs we'll see Ukraine being reconstructed (by China because well they are well overbuilt there and over extended in that regard) as the model for built back better....whether they'll take a break before marching onward to destroy other countries is yet to be seen but you can see where this track is going. Now you can see why the alignment between Russia and China. This all hinges on them being in alignment with each towards a new world order....but if it transitions that way it will be based upon deception, that countries or citizens will be led to believe they oppose each other, but then decide to like each other, oppose each other, like each other, tit for tat, tit for tat in a bid to keep the populace "mass formatted" one side to the other so they can meet their new global world order, whereas it will likely be Russia as the overlord of Europe, China over Asia, freak young globalist leaders for places like Canada, the US, Australia, etc, and yet undetermined middle east tyrant. Don't be surprise if they hit Hong Kong next, maybe even Japan as shocking as that sounds because they also wield higher than average older populations. The objective is to wipe out the old and in with the new. Now this is all speculative on my part but it never hurts to try and stay ahead of any curve balls.

You got it wrong. There's been a war going on for the last seven, eight years, just not this destructive of a war. Now Ukraine has incorporated different groups into their military for the last few years, not the entire eight. Some of these groups are hard core Nazi type groups, like the C14, which many people believe are CIA operatives. So this is a whole different aspect to this whole situation. My opinion is that yes Zalensky and his cohort, I forget his name right off the bat, who has financed him from the beginning of his presidency, are perfect for this role "I am Jewish so how can I be a Nazi" part. I speculate that Ukraine has been being used for the last few years of Zalensky's presidency to draw out hard right fighters not just in Ukraine but from abroad. It got so bad they even ran training camps there. This is the perfect "come on in and feel right at home" trap. This gets these groups communicating from across the globe. Many of these groups don't even communicate in open communications, no phones, no internet, that's how secretive they are. Now don't go getting me all hip ha raving for everyone of these groups but there are many who deserve to be taken down, but on the other hand if your country is being taken over by a globalist agenda and you find yourself in a similar situation like Ukraine....it's these guys who are going to give the globalist a real run for their money and they know it. It's to their advantage to know where these people are to enable themselves to take them out first. Which, by the way, is exactly what happened in Ukraine. Here's another wild twist to Ukraine, Poroshenko (I think I spelled that right), was on television about a week after the fighting started. He's an ex president who was pro Russian during his tenure. He's all uniformed up saying how they are going to take out the Nazi's. A month prior to the war starting he was arrested by Zalensky, him and another guy, for treason against the country for selling fifty million dollars of coal to Russia. So you see how messed up this is? He could actually be on the inside in Ukrainian uniform fighting against Ukrainian soldiers also. So you have traditional Ukrainian army, you have the ex president facing treason dressed up in Ukrainian uniform with others around him dressed the same, you possibly have C14 cia operatives, Azvo guys and any other number of groups operating there, plus the Russians. One sure tall tale sign that something wasn't quite right with this whole mess was Zalensky's call out within a matter of hours, actually it was days but it was so fast I call it hours, for fighters across the globe to come join them. That's unheard of basically. What also is basically unheard of is that there wasn't any outcries from other world leaders telling their people not to go. Two and two just wasn't adding up to four on this one. It, to me, was a sure sign they've been operating globally looking for open communication and locations of right wing fighters. Whether hard core or not. Well, the not will sort of be easy to figure out if such a time comes here because they are all busy signing up for Truth Social media and clicking on Trump's offer for free gold medallions. Which might work out better for you and me since they'll just be able to go to their house, knock on the door and drag them out whereas your and my house or neighborhood may not have to be bombed to get them.

You and I are just as powerless, will that makes us poor powerless sympathy leeches should such a thing occur here. You can't take everything you see with a one hundred percent grain of salt there's so many different forces at work, they've been a work for a long time destabilizing the whole situation into a blow up. I suppose you never once thought to ask yourself why a civilian woman would be in the basement to be killed by the azov if that was their base. Wouldn't be more like a azov woman fighter who got killed when they bombed the place and maybe the DPR dudes found her and wrote that stuff on her. That makes a whole hell lot more sense than the story he gave. He sort of gives himself away when he says they don't always got time to take care of their own....but he has time to take this guy down there and show him around?

No, the reporter asked him what side he was registered with and he said the DPR. So if the woman was a civilian that meant they left her there like that and he said they don't always have time to take care of their own.

See another comment I just made to you. From what I can see of the video it appears she may have been stabbed after death as the blood appeared to have already coagulated.

I didn't watch the video but that's what I am trying to tell you, it's all sorts of propaganda, twist and turns, and things aren't adding up. Just like now they are suppose to be in peace talks but everyone seems to be rearming themselves and Russia calling middle east troops back home. At this point how can any one individual really know what the real truth is in this situation because you have so many different operatives working different agenda's. Like I said, if the last eight years where happening to you or I we'd get up and move on....but you also, if you have an inclination such as mine, to ask yourself was the last eight years a set up also by the globalist. Planning in the processes that have taken place over the last two decades concerning the environment we've found ourselves in with this virus. I think this war serves also as a turning point for the virus situation, away from, even if momentarily because you can't trust these fools, trying forced or mandated vaccination to all of a sudden just recommending the most vulnerable and elderly get them. I've been talking about it for the last month, calling it mainstreaming, like an annual flu shot to the most vulnerable among us. That's exactly what they did yesterday, they came out and announced they've changed their direction. They will no longer recommend boosters for those under fifty but recommend they keep giving them to the vulnerable and elderly. They will continue to promote people get boosters but their main focus will be on the most vulnerable and elderly. Russia sat there for a year for a reason, they just didn't know when people would start to figure out the harms being done to the point they could no longer deny it. With this war and all the worry about it expanding people's attention got refocused on that and away from the dangers of the vaccines. Otherwise the headlines would be blaring with the evidence. I already knew this was where they were planning on going with this because Trump invested himself heavily in Sanofi's new combination/flu covid shot coming out this fall. You can call this a transition period....but ultimately it will still be a deadly one for the vulnerable and elderly if allowed to keep happening. The objective is two fold here, elimination of the elderly populace before 2030 to avoid an world wide economic devastation and to transition the voter range from conservative based die hard elderly voters to younger indoctorinated liberal millennials.

What a fucking scumbag. Go fuck yourself pal.