Hey bro, that's totally normal, we had the same issue with the 3 kids but we learnt our lessons.
Kids love routine, they love patterns, and it's so important to sleep train them as quickly as possible.
3 years ago, we started going put them in bed earlier and earlier, up until starting the food, bath routine at 7pm. Of course they only fell asleep around 830 or even 10 sometimes but it's important for them to understand that now is the time to chill. We aren't perfect though so don't beat yourself too much, none of them could fall asleep without being rocked the first 2 years of their lives, we tried the "sleep training" the harcore way by leaving the baby in the crib and closing gently the door, but it always ended up with a lof of crying and no sleep, our last one likes to make herself vomit as retaliation by putting finger down her throat, hardcore shit.
I am gonna let my wife @lionmom tag in because she knows how much we worked on this. It's so much easier since they have their own room though, when we were all crammed into one room, nobody was sleeping hahaha. It took 3 years for their sleeping habits to be imbedded in some sort of pattern.
Also, for their pineal gland and circadian rhythms, they do need that sunlight, the light getting them awake around 7 to 9am is the only way to get them sleeping at 830 or 9pm.
Then again ,everyone is different, so don't listen to other parents on the internet, most of them are lying anyway haha
That's great advice, our struggle is our own routines too. My wife is a nurse and I work a few jobs. One being Emergency Management and often deployed to situations.
We don't have routines ourselves as it is shift work, or if work is busy then work hours are long. We try to maintain dinner time at the same time each day for stability.
But it has been very hard
Wow, yeah, you guys have hectic lives, don't listen to a guy that has his own timetable.
Also, the other thing that works that I completely forgot, the bath routine just before the bed time. It does marvels. A little bed time story, a kiss on the chick, et voila!!!
Yeah bath time a little while before bed seems to do a pretty good job of getting them down.
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ENGAGEtokens.Hahah that's some brutal stuff, forcing herself to vomit! Sometimes the kids seem like little demons, don't they?
We are going through the similar 1 room thing. Our condo is pretty small so one bedroom is now the office for my wife and I, the other bedroom is for sleeping and the living room has been converted into a sleep and play area lol. You end up working with what ya got though, so we do what we can!
Our son has been a bit all over the cycle but thankfully has seemed to level off and get to sleep and wake up around the same time every day now. He does love his sleep though, going to bed between 8-9 and he will sleep until 8 or 9 the following day! It makes for some hours on either end of some peace and needed adult time lol. Been using the extra time on most days to try and learn things!
She is a master manipulative that doesn't give a fuck. A minute later she is normal like nothing happened and smiles, like a serial killer. I love her though haha
My second album is sung very "whispery" especially because the kids were sleeping next to us lol.
Yeah we end up going to bed at 4am, I do recording after 9pm when everyone is sleeping. Adult time like drinking and...Other things have to happen when we sure they are all sleeping and in REM phase, cause...They walked out on us
To quote Conor Mcgregor, no excuse not to learn things "We all have the same 24 hours in a day"
What I keep trying to tell my wife, that's what adults with kids have to do! Will never be perfect time so gotta enjoy what you can, when you can. Better when they are younger then when they are 10 years old and remember lol.
I love and need my sleep too much to go to bed at 4 am lol my days of that stuff are long gone! 11 is usually the latest I'm in bed most days. Last night it was 815 hahaha. I've been slacking the past 3 or 4 days on learning coding but I'm hoping to spend some time getting back into a much better rhythm today. That's an interesting quote indeed, because some never end up learning anything outside of their box. To each their own though, some have a thirst for knowledge, others just like to achieve what they do and coast the rest.
Damn that's dedication!!! Do you know how to say Hello World yet?
I've been learning Python so thankfully it's easier than some of the other languages to do that type of stuff! I'm still a pretty big noob at it but getting there.
My next language to learn is JavaScript and it seems a bit different to do it in that but that's the benefit of learning, reflecting on ways that things are different and how some are potentially easier than others.
I wanted to learn coding and started a fee years ago when I was working at a tech company but haven't had the opportunity to pick that up. I have so many other things on. Having led a team at a tech company which included devs gave me a great understanding of what was achievable. I've since led a few other tech projects. Very valuable stuff and the language of the future