It's easy to make it on Hive. This may be something many will instantly disagree with, but let me write a bit more before you decide to start hating me.
Have you guys seen the shit people do on X ever since they introduced adrevenue sharing? Some are literally spamming all day every day, doesn't matter what they say, as long as it gets them impressions and followers they'll do any trick in the book to start collecting a paycheck. Even though X keeps making it harder and harder to collect that paycheck, even though - as I've mentioned many times in the past the main reason you can't compare author rewards on hive to web2 earnings - they literally don't lose anything by sharing adrevenue with their top attention-getters.
Do you think Elon is giving their 0.1% top users stocks in X? No, he's not, nor does any other social media website. People have to fight tooth and nail to get to that spot and many have been grinding it for years expecting something like that to happen similar to youtube and facebook where adrevenue is shared. The old-timers and now newcomers focusing on getting attention are investing a lot of time and resources to get there, it's definitely not easy and who knows how often they'll keep moving the post for minimum threshold to earn in the future. Even once you make it - it's not going to be a lot. I saw a post the other day of someone sharing their youtube earnings, here it is, naturally that'll seem like a lot to many of us here, right? Someone in the comments found his youtube channel so I got curious as to how much views he's getting to get about $1k per month. Here's an imagine of his socialblade:
Look at the total subscribers weekly, by the looks of it he started uploading videos 8 months ago. He seems to be generating original songs on a daily basis, I'm not sure how many can compete with that but I'm quite sure he's one of the few who've attempted to make an income on youtube before they gave up or it just never happened.
What does web2 have that we don't? Well, they have literal billions and billions of views per day from billions of monthly active users. Naturally the amount of advertisement they receive is up there in the billions as well, although lately it feels the quality and diversify of ads has been on the decline along with adrevenue earnings.
What does web3 (hive) have that web2 doesn't have? We can give out rewards with our votes without it costing us "directly" and we're all sharing the same token in the ecosystem so we all want it to do well hence we go out and curate users of all kinds - or at least that's what we should be doing. (Not going to go too much into curation in this post), but point is we are incentivized to share with new people joining our network which means anyone can earn instantly after creating an account. No minimum threshold required, no KYC and bank transfers once a month once you "make it".
Naturally some take this for granted, some maybe don't believe in the future of Hive or either need the funds right now or want to rather bet on other assets or simply don't care as they think it'll go on forever. I've personally placed some value on other coins this time around for a change as well thinking once that does well I'll get back to Hive but times are showing that maybe Hive isn't going to lag behind too much this time around, every month is getting more and more expensive to get back into Hive what I was hoping and I keep wondering how many others feel the same way, if any. Hive still has another decade of decreasing inflation so maybe some think that they'll get back into it at a later date or they'll keep earning up until then, but similar to how the price of hive is acting different this time with the recent volume spikes it makes me wonder what people left with no stake today are gonna do once a big influx of users starts coming in.
For new, genuine users however, earning and becoming part of this network should feel like child's play compared to the other ones, especially for us "regular joe's" who don't really have a big audience outside of Hive. I often browse reddit and keep thinking at the amount of effort and time people place into comments, moderation, etc, without ever seeing any value come out of it. Even the little activity I had placed on r/cryptocurrency over the years got me an airdrop but Reddit decided it wanted nothing to do with tokenization of subreddits and opted out of it all. Even when they were planning on moving forward with it, they'd made damn sure to give themselves a big fat part of the supply which they now burned, but that kind of proves my point - why no one has created something like Hive is because no one wants to give away power and control to the wider crowd.
Here we are though and although things could be working better if things were a bit more centralized, we're still doing quite well moving forward as a community and giving people and option to opt into something different where they can participate and earn stake in the network that others will then later have to, not pay a large sum of money to a company, not incentivize creators to brainwash their viewers with ads and sponsorships to get a payday, but to literally buy your tokens off of your hands or give you rewards by buying/leasing stake in an effort to drive attention to themselves.
Anyway, I know many of you OG's here understand this and are never going to sell everything you have bought/earned so far, but once things are settled and more commonspace with the OG coins there's definitely going to be a lot of attention flowing in all directions looking for the next "real thing" after this mania with memecoin gambling, AI bullshit and centralized trash dies out. Be prepared.
I've been thinking about your post for a long time and I can tell you that I feel overwhelmed by web2 spam and I only have Twitter, I mean, X, Instagram and Youtube. The first question that came to my mind was: do we really want to bring those people to Hive?
I spend little or no time on social media. My time is committed to Hive, where I feel I learn and grow. What I watch most on web2 are YouTube videos and they are very one-off topics, animation videos, video clips, movie trailers that I sign up to watch and personal development stuff like expert lectures, TED Talks, things like that. On web2 it seems that AI is an infection.
When I tell my friends and/or acquaintances about Hive most show no interest. But some of them have told me about their intention to have a YouTube channel. I don't really know how they could monetise it unless they do it through a family member or friend outside the country. Here in Cuba the pace at which everything happens is so different from what happens in the world... the subject of cryptocurrencies, in this case, is still taboo and for many people incomprehensible. Imagine that even to accept a bank transfer people put their foot down.
I think we still have a long way to go to educate people. And to make them understand... but the law of least effort is taking hold with each passing day.
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I often find myself dumbfounded by what drives people.
I see several people trying really hard to make it on insta/tictoc and YouTube. They make literally nada.
Several are old users of steemit and a few are people I onboarded and who made a few posts then stopped.
I don’t get not at minimum putting the post as well here on Hive at the same time they post to web2.
What is there to lose, can’t make less than nothing 🤣🤦♂️
It is so much easier to get traction here on Hive.
It’s so blatantly obvious to me to slowly earn shares in the platform I put energy into.
Somehow I’m the crypto crazy tinfoil hat guy though 🤷♂️
Yet all these folks just give away there energy and eyeballs for some elusive hope of going viral.
I invited my classmate to Hive a few years ago(?). I delegated him some HP so he had easier start than me. He thought that he will get rich just by curating. He did not buy any Hive/ HBD and made no posts or comments(despite me suggesting a few times that he should). Sad really. He was making music in the past. So he could have done well on Hive...
That’s extra mooch territory. He wanted to ‘get rich’ off your delegation.. wtf 😳
I guess I had dipshit classmates too…but geez 🙄
Man i can tag 10 of mine that i invited to hive, great artists music people but they think "this is hard" just because few codes to make a post looks decent...
I don't understand those people.
Totally! And yet, how to convince people to move from Web2 platforms to HIVE? Is it mostly because HIVE is crypto and most people still think of crypto as scam? @topcomment
Well since you mentioned it, I’m invested in a very profitable platform.
Send me .01 BTC and I’ll send you back .02 next week.
Pinky Promise 😉
LOL :) That better not be your sales pitch to try to get users to HIVE :)
Woops, have I been doing it wrong all these years 😝
I think many social media users are conditioned to react to contentious or angry content, and there is substantially less of that on Hive, compared to legacy social media.
Hive requires you to be some combination of compelling writer, to stop and consider what value holders consider relevant, or to create value through other mechanisms.
Beyond "Making it" Hive has intrinsic value as a means of storing and delivering textual data, in a distributed decentralized network. That alone is a powerful mechanism that gets forgotten in the chase for tokens.
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I hate to say it, but as far as I can tell, X is already on the slippery slope towards Idiocracy!
Of course the lure of "money for nothing" is not new to the world. I'm an old fart, and I tell you it was just as rampant in the 1980s, with chainletters, scams, get-rich-quick pyramid schemes and more... and people were plowing $100s into these, rather than trying legitimate business opportunities that actually worked.
I think the lesson for Hive — if there IS a lesson here — is to embrace the fact that this is a niche venue and the whole idea that we would ever be competitive with Facebook, Insta, YouTube, X and so forth is a pipe dream.
From a marketing efficiency perspective, being AWESOME to 2% of the potential market is far better than being too difficult/nothing at all to the whole market, if you get my drift.
To that end, Hive's communities could be our greatest asset... particularly if they become dynamic and active... as the POSH/Reddit initiative suggests, people will follow the promise of interesting content. Particularly if it's on a topic they are interested in: gardening, cooking, gaming hacks, travel tips, DYI and so forth.
Greetings @acidyo ,
Thank you for taking the time to walk us through these differentiations in the Social Media experience. It is good to be reminded.
Hive can claim many positives that these others cannot...It is a different experience altogether. It is probably safe to say that many of us are here because...it is not...said Social Media, etc.
Yes...as you said ...we should be prepared.
Kind Regards,
Bleujay
Hive is definitely one of the, if not the most, easiest platform to "make it"
I am reading this post after having an online discussion with a new hive member (who joined via inleo.io) and he is fully confirming my thoughts after all these years I ve been here.
People do not want to put in extra efforts for extra gains. Most of the times they will prefer to post 1000 replies a day on x to get 100$ a month than come and learn an extra skill (i.e. by joining hive or even other platforms.
I have brought a few people here, I have talked to many many more. Friends, family etc.
I will mention @thetroublenotes (my favorite band) who took the giant (then) leap and joined - @learningpages who came over from writing in medium (9 months and still learning, but not giving up) - I hope that my friend @demos76 will manage to find more time into this and last but not least a very new friend @wrenard whom I met yesterday. @wrenard said it all in one comment which I am sharing below (with their permission)
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I agree that we will soon see people fleeing in web3 platforms (or the ones that claim to be web3) - we see that Meta is also testing monetization. Maybe new dApps will be created. For sure we will welcome more users here too. I cannot safely predict how this will evolve, even if I have some things in mind.
I am glad that there are people who are still building, respect the platform and are discussing these subjects.
Thanks for you help and guidance over the past, probably two years, on Medium and now Hive. Your posts have introduced me to things I had never heard of before. !HUG
That's so true !
I've been preaching this since to anyone that lends me their ears. Hive is easy. Old blogging spaces took years to get people earning cents for their blogs from ads and this is at the cost of spending 3 years average on consistent good blogging where most competition quit at year 1. In Hive, anyone can make an introduction without proving anything and still beat seasoned bloggers on other spaces per reward and blogging time. And yet, somehow people feel like losers for earning a few cents over their posts here where they spend less time on this site while spending a lot of time on other platforms that pay them nil for their time and clicks.
Impression farming on X has gone totally bonkers.
You may be talking about Hive, like in this post and there would be n number of comments (mostly videos) talking about
“You wont believe what this dog did”
“You will believe when you see what this donkey did”
Revenue sharing has made X even more crazier than what it already was.
As far as future of Hive is concerned, it is a long haul but I am hopeful
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The answer is here, no one wants to let you know how much they are earning by exploiting you. It is true for every business model, and web2s are just like the same milking cow. Hive is easy in terms of flexibility and very rational with greater transparency in the economy. I have some doubts about proper curation for some curators, but that is a fraction when I see the wider picture. If a new user is truly passionate and dedicated with patience, then Hive can reward him for sure.
I remember back in 2018 when the majority got a 0.01 upvote or so. Nowadays it feels almost everyone is getting a descent update. That alone feels like real success as we should be distributing Hive as broadly as possible. Couple that with the fact that essentially all "competitors" have vanished over the years, Hive really seems to be the real deal...
I agree with your points, on isntagram, Facebook and so on to monetize you need not hundreds but thousands and thousands of subscribers and views... To earn little! YouTube for example pays really little... On hive an artist can make a post and earn way more even if he gets only 1 viewer but is someone with a big stake... The problem is that hive is not popular, go around asking how many know hive or Facebook/Instagram and see... So hive needs more visibility, more advertise... Web2 socials are trash compared to hive web3 but it's like a gold mine, who goes dig if no one knows it's there?
Starting on Hive as a newbie is the very difficult one because your content will be hidden to the eyes of the other user, they only saw people who had big HP that they can benefits. Yes it's not bad because in that case they can exchange votes. But how about the new comers who are late to discover hive? They need good whales to feed them so they can grow, that's why people come and go because it's very tired to write and no one appreciate on what they are doing.. anyways let's keep on moving in Hive.✌️❤️❤️
Not everyone needs to be a content creator however and I hope comments & engagement continues to be more rewarded over time. We're still in the phase where content creation is the main way to earn which causes a lot of disconnection from authors with each other because they only focus on their own content and if they start getting autovotes they retire there.
In this platform it really needs more engagement.. if all content creators will put more time on engaging it would be more fun and friendly ecosystem..
At the same time we can earn more friends and learned!
Your post enlightened me because I'm trying to build YouTube, it's really very difficult and here it's also a little difficult because I still have little interaction with friends.But I really think it's really amazing that this hive can make money if we are serious
Saw this AI bullshit yesterday …
Doesn’t pass the sniff test.
My posts are getting more recognition now both in rewards and comments. But it took me 7 years to get here. I am not sure if this means that my content got better or what. So I would not say that making it in Hive is easy. But it is enjoyable and easier than on other platforms like facebook or youtube. On facebook my art gets few likes and almost no comments. On youtube I have 2 followers so I gave up on posting youtube videos.
I don't "play" X anymore unless a contest I joined on hive told me to do so 😅 I don't have follower anyway🤭 I'll learn from you what to prepare. I'm glad that hive has witnesses not CEO
It is easier to adapt to Hive than Web 2. There is a warm, friendly atmosphere. It takes years of effort to get noticed in Web 2.
Hive is more fair and the future, technology is on Hive's side. There are some shortcomings. They will be solved over time.
I am very happy to be part of the Hive ecosystem. Although I've been here less than a year, I do feel that the decentralization that Hive offers helps us a lot to protect us from those who want to write the narrative and among other evils (something that happens very often in Web2).
I am hopeful about Hive's future. Community ownership and user empowerment are key strengths, and I’m excited to see how the platform grows and keeps innovating in the years ahead. I have been here long enough to have witnessed the growth and innovation abnd takes pride in being part of Hive and some communities. Cheers to everyone and to the OG's and those who never tire thinking of ways to make this platform interesting and fun
Hello my friend @acidyo I totally agree with what you explain in your writing, I am very confident that in hive everyone will win if they are consistent and copy each other's interactions, and since I joined hive of course I feel that hive is one of the easiest social media platforms and I don't want to leave it, Thank you very much for giving us about this wonderful message through your writing, I hope you have a pleasant day my friend 🙏.
Ha, I actually agreed from the start, didn't really need the extra convincing. Apparently, humans tend to hold a negativity bias, so I guess we're designed to zero in on the bad things (which might account for why we like to grumble about Hive even though it's as cool as it is). Maybe with new onboarded users, it's precisely that it's so easy and so promising of something more that makes them a bit resistant/suspicious of it? I don't honestly know. But then, I don't remember what it was like finding this place for the first time and thinking it was kinda weird:D
I do believe that HIVE has a pretty good chance of increasing it's market cap and influence in the crypto community. These recent HIVE pumps made me a believer, too bad I didn't buy more at under 20 cents as I don't think we will see those price levels until the next bear market LOL.
The hard part is to make HIVE a more popular blogging/social platform in the mainstream. Take Reddit for example, why are they so popular? I get YouTube, they are hard to compete with, but Reddit has nothing special in my mind... Same with X, why is X so popular how can we bring masses from these mainstream platforms to HIVE?
I'm taking the opposite journey and can appreciate Hive even more, I wanted to start streaming some game play on Twitch and the amount of effort put in there to get no followers or rewards is 100X more than what it take to start earning on Hive. Being able to come in an comment on a post like this with the possible of a upvote is way easier than getting enough followers to get approved for subs. Hive is easy folks!
Like the saying goes, 'you don't know what you have until yiu lose it'. The fact that here on Hive everyone can get the rewards no matter how long they've been here or how many views their contenrs reach is bliss and I'm grateful for being here on Hive.
Agreed on your points. I'm inviting some friends to Hive and showed them that they can do what they do on facebook and twitter here and earn upon signup. I hope they do.
!BBH
I started HiVE to put out my graffiti stuffs, but in less then a week i understand the basic work of this and how amazing is the HivePower and all the thing, but why we should care about web2 stuffs? The point is to bring more people to HIVE? Because the great content we find (sometimes) here can't compare with that actual sht out there(on web2) mostly jokes and weird dances.
Yeah. I wish more people think like this. I think the biggest problem today is no longer the gateway to Hive (which there are many, by the way), but rather how to retain new users and make them become participating members.
I feel like Elon would like HIVE and idea of it being run by people. If only he didn't have such a big ego lately.
It's such a big difference between companies paying people or people paying people.
I always tell my friends that you can earn more and faster from Hive than from YouTube, but it is a different matter that they do not understand my words and facts at all.
Whereas YouTubers sit on the system for hours to make a video and then wait to see how many views it has, on Hive I write for just one or one and a half hours and publish a blog, which earns at least $20. Everyone has their own choice.
It's hard for me to keep up with the competition on the web2 platform and truly I see how they spam there on a daily just to get traffic to their post and enjoy their paycheck.
Hive is not complicated like web2, you don't need to go do hard to get the attention you deserve, you just need to do the right thing and have the right mentality which is for the "long term." Hive has a lot to offer, a lot that web2 cannot dare to do.
We really do not want that social media crowd, cluttering up the Hive with inane posts of what they had for dinner or seeing their dog lick his balls ( laughing emoji). besides morons like that do not possess the intelligence determination and drive to succeed on here. They want instant gratification and internet love,
At first it's not so easy to learn, there are many things, but if you are passionate about it, it is beautiful to learn every day. It is easy because you can generate income by doing what you like, on other networks that would take a long time, my friends have been on tiktok for like 2 years and they haven't seen a single cent, I have been here for less than a year and I have been able to cover some personal expenses and I am barely a teenager, my mother and I are very grateful to Hive
It is a bit confusing in the beginning but then Hive is mostly fun.
I agree with most of your points. If just the learning curve would be not so steep on Hive.
Agreed: on Hive there's so much to learn, and often that alone is enough to discourage newcomers. I also often find out that a lot of "older" users aren't aware of lots of useful tools and features which could make their life easier and interactions smoother. Nowadays the main frontends do a lot to simplify the experience, but still we have some road ahead to do before having a platform where people can come, sign up and do what they are already used to do (but in a decentraliZed enviroment and owning their identity).
No way, I wouldn't dare kill the goose that lays the golden egg unless some major emergency came up. Even then, I'd probably look to other sources first.
That's very well explained @acidyo. You literally translated my thoughts and feelings...
I have this feeling though that elon is just using users on twitter to enrich himself more, however hive is the easiest social media platform have come across and that is why i give my all to it
As a platform it is easy... but creating good content is never easy. It's a bit of a hit-or-miss: get curated or be invisible
Sure but people need to realize that unless your content really stands out from others not many are going to find it, even incentivized to do so, if you're completely unknown and inactive. This for instance is your first comment in over a month from a quick glance at your account, you're easy to be ignored due to no social engagement with others. This comment right here already lead me to go to your page and check if you had any active posts and give you a follow, but that doesn't mean you should just be active with curators who may give you votes, you should go out and engage with authors that share something with you. Similar content, ideas, beliefs, geolocation, etc, once you start getting more attention and continue building your connections then curators should reward you more based off of that. As I've said in the past and many others here, the content may be insanely good and time consuming to create and amazing but if no one is reading it or knows about it then there's no point to reward it either since this is part of the attention economy much like other platforms.
20$ in 2025.
That would be great. I have no plans of cashing out so in 10 or 15 years I would feel pretty great. At best case I may be able to live off HBD APR and keep increasing my HP and HBD from posts rewards. That is my goal anyway.
Woah that is a bold claim Sir 😀
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That would be so awesome... and if could turn all my HP into HBD before the value crash - yeah, I know, never gonna happen, but let me dream 🤣 - I would have (13.000 HIVE at 20 bucks each) 260.000 dollars earning 39.000$ per year in interest (assuming a 0 compund effect)... please don't wake me up from that dream! !LOL
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Since I joined Hive, I would say that by far it is the most easiest platform to make it, I love how less chaotic it is and how it makes people from different part of world interact freely.
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STOPIt's wild how people on X are spamming nonstop even if the platform keeps raising and enhancing the bar to earn, still many of the people choose to chase ad revenue, doing whatever it takes for impressions and followers. And all this happens for what? For a small paycheck that doesn’t compare to the grind it takes to get there. Whatever i have experienced or got to know about X is that its's ust a race, a race for the scraps in a system that benefits the platform far more than its users. I strongly agree with you on your point, though i have joined hive recently but my experience or review about is far more amazing than that of X, the whole system and setup of hive is really very systematic and it's the only secured online earing website which i came across till date, here i love the way creators create and post actually own their content and share rewards in a decentralized way.
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Yes, I also feel hive is quite easy.. simple is maybe a better way of saying it.. just be real, act right, and engage with the community.
as an OG, I am so grateful for hive and it really does give me something i can do and be proud of. plus, it's fun and fills my days! 😊😉😎🤙