I don't think you realize how many accounts would inherently become bad actors without the 50% kickback.
Like I said the psychological benefit alone is more than worth it.
Do you know how easy it would be these days to just create a couple dozen fake accounts and Sybil attack the network by 100% upvoting AI generated content? I guarantee you some curators do this shit already but it would be exponentially more without the curation mechanic.
And then it becomes just like steroids in professional sports where literally everyone is forced to break the rules in order to compete because "everyone is doing it". In many regards this is a huge problem with macro-capitalism as well. Curation largely fixes this problem, which is surprising but it does. We can see that it does.
That's what kind of happened with the bid bot era, those that didn't get involved got penalized hard.
Trying to talk to the user more it seems they're in the "stop downvoting it's ruining hive" and "downvotes are taxation and taxation is theft" category. They'd probably want something like steem or blurt where just as you say if no downvotes occur the network would instantly become a proof of stake piece of shit where posts are just placeholders to get your mining rewards from completely disregarding PoB. Kinda done talking about this at this point, as satoshi told @dan way back about something unrelated "If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry."
wow how did I miss that I didn't know he was talking to dan lol wtf
that's wild
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Then @ned was right and we need oracles to divine actual unique human users from bots and sock puppets. There are vote sellers on Hive today too. Should we ban upvotes? Perverting curation because some people are criminals isn't the solution. Ferreting out the criminals and flagging them into insolvency is. Is the solution to people taking steroids in sports to provide them to all contestants? That might even make sports more interesting to watch, as power lifters rip their own limbs off trying to push too hard.
Curation isn't the problem. Curation rewards are the problem. They financialize curation, allow profiteers to game it for financial returns, and this degrades the power of society to reward content per the subjective opinions of the voters. Curation rewards destroy curation by this mechanism, substituting financial interest in the curation rewards for the subjective evaluation of the content.
It's corruption. It destroys social media, just like Pfizer paying influencers to sing songs praising the jabs ruins music. There used to be an account on here, @sherlockholmes, that ferreted bot networks and that enabled people to flag them out of existence. He suddenly disappeared, probably because he ran into exactly such network run by oligarch(s) and was paid to quit. Some of these guys have tens of thousands of accounts. They spend a lot of time and money creating those accounts. They didn't just do it for shits and giggles. They did it to make money from them, and that's what they're doing with them, exactly as you said.
Curation rewards don't stop them. They make doing it more profitable to the criminals.
There's sound principles and there's corruption. Standing on sound principle allows society to prosper, enables folks to trust and rely on one another. Corruption prevents that, allows thieves and frauds to gain power over others and steal from them, even kill them and take their stuff.
That corruption is a big part of what has put Hive on life support by pushing hundreds of thousands of users off the platform. Unrestrained taxation is far worse, but corrupting content valuation reeks of unfairness, and that drives good people away.
You can make this argument like four years ago but you can't make it now.
There is no gaming the system.
It's a flat return.
No one has an advantage and you have yet to provide an example... because there is no example.
Anyone can upvote anyone they want.
Curation no longer rewards the accounts that voted at the 5 minute mark.
There are other metrics that determine how to maximize return on upvotes. Timing was only one of them.