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RE: Follow Friday - Hivetacular

in #hive4 years ago

Creators already have an impersonator problem; that has nothing to do with hive. They solve this by linking/mentioning their official accounts in their content, and this is the best solution both for them and for the internet in general. It's simple, low-tech and has few problems. Cultivating /educating this as the thing to do rather than websites babysitting people will actually solve the problem webwide, savvier users will be less likely to be tricked. Giving users the expectation that sites are here to take care of you will make things easier for scammers/impersonators.

That having been said I think a keybase-style verifier bot would be quite good if done in that way, keybase just gives links back to other accounts it's verified in the user profile, and does not elevate or "blue check" the user above other users in any way.

Perhaps this is a different issue, but by the way:
Entertaining notions of "if people don't step up and do X, the blockchain will fail" is an indication of an already failed experiment. If your blockchain relies on users to take voluntary generous action and the overhead and incentive to take that action aren't enough to get it to happen naturally such that you have to encourage it, the system is broken & time to abandon. I hardly think not enough downvoting is a system critical issue though

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Thanks for the comprehensive reply

  • We can add a system of allowing @dbuzz users to add links to their 3rd party accounts from other sites

A verification requirements to add those accounts = Solution (no check)



Posted via D.Buzz@savvyplayer @steevc @amamada @jeffjagoe @frankbacon

The less manual labor the better.

And that's the biggest issue right now.

  • Abuse fighters forcr and/or coerce new users to complete tasks, and jump through hoops that even Web3 doesn't do.



Posted via D.Buzz#Inconvenience

Buzz word nonsense.

Most "abuse fighters" can't be assed with this task except certain cases in tribes. And it's as simple as asking the actual content creator if they happen to be on Hive.

  1. Ah yeah, asking the person on their Web 2.0 account if they have a #Hive account is easy, and not to much of a hassle.

  2. The issue I have is in seeing legit authors on #Hive called plagerizers when they are not.

If abuse fighters stick to #1, the #2 won't happen at all.

Posted via D.Buzz

#2 sounds like an exclusive HW problem.

It might be easier for @guiltyparties to come up with an "unverified" badge to make things easier for curators. Or perhaps the @peakd team could sponsor that in a collaboration.

Yup, I think you're right, and it's been a very long standing issue that was never addressed.

They don't seem to take constructive criticism well, even if it's valid.

But unfortunately, most don't speak up, or hold them accountable, even though many privately agree with me.

Posted via D.Buzz

When I made a social media account on a centralized platform, it asked for my sensitive information. I was alarmed and troubled at the idea that my information is banked somewhere in a datacenter some part of the world. Then I kept registering to more social media platform because I want to use those sites too and they asked the same thing. I felt guilty the first time so I did it more than 30 times and stopped counting. Then I saw the government I work for also requires me to give my sensitive information making me do paperwork and go to different departments to accomplish a simple task as getting a verified ID. Yeah, people freely give their info even in a decentralized platform, what a shocker that is that I'd get to see vanity tiktok vids and puckered lip selfies as a norm on social media.

Point? Inconvenience is relative. If I get stopped by a checkpoint by an officer, that's inconvenience but not necessarily an evil. If I can get my VISA by going through shitty systems short term in exchange for traveling around the world long term, I don't think I'd be minding the short term trouble. That goes for users that portray a personality that is unverified here.

Inconvienece is relative, but we should at least be easier than Web3, otherwise we aren't completing.

  • Having said that, all the examples you gave have definitely been, and are being used for evil at this present time.

Governments should not have that much power.

Posted via D.Buzz

are being used for evil at this present time.

Dunno about you but when I check the Philippine Statistics Authority for data I kinda need those for planning programs, reports, and etc and these are data derived from sensitive information (some of them anyway) used by the evil government. Ascribing it to a word government doesn't bring us closer to a solution as it's a word, abstract to describe an institution. You need to be specific on which part of the evil you are trying to describe, which part of the government branch does it, headed by who, the shady program, how it operates.

Breaking down to as simple as, Tommy the class treasurer laundered money in cooperation with the class auditor last month during the fund raising event where the costs of materials didn't coincide with the audit by the class auditor. Government is a vague word to describe a specific problem promulgated by a network of people taking advantage of the system. Because it's far more politically correct to say the government is mean when it's just X elected/appointed leader does the crap.

This whole response to supposed #Covid19 is anti-science, does more harm than good, and millions to billions of people will likely die from these #mRNA treatments, w/in 2 years, starting this winter.

  • Everyone complicit is ignorant, evil or both.



Posted via D.Buzz#MedicalAppartheid

BOOM

Very comprehensive.

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I don’t actually think these people want a solution, I think they like to think that they are the solution themselves, and so they enjoy doing what they’re doing. Probably the first time they ever felt in control of something in their whole lives.

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Well said.
Thanks for the tag @chrisrice