I know I am sounding like a broken record here, but I really appreciate you keeping the focus on this. They have been pulling out all the stops to bury this and your voice is much respected here by so many.
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Hey @practicalthought. I know you did not write this article and maybe the scene of whatever happened in this case, maybe it needed a more thorough investigation. Or maybe it was all cleaned up before they even arrived? Yet the conclusions Rich reaches with respect to Sawman. I don't know how he's coming to those conclusions, did you have any further information on that matter that might indicate as Rich suggested that he's deep state? Or not investigating, or turning a blind eye in this case?
This guy sums it up pretty well
Thanks for that video, even this guy apparently thinks that he may be in the business of saving children, which to me if he is saving children means that he's not a fraud. Yet then this guy goes on to say that they were 'token saved children' and I'm like WTF!?
Since when is a child saved a token act? I'm confused because towards the end he makes this whole thing about occupying the getty (not sure if that's spelled correctly).
So he's salty at Sawman for not wanting to occupy the getty or allegedly dismissing the idea as lunacy. Then he goes on how to talk about him not wanting to protest billionaires. So I'm guessing the getty whatever that is may be owned by billionaires?
It seems to me like he's trying to goad Sawman into endorsing or participating in some kind of stunt that may or may not hamper the release of his film. It could interfere with the release if Sawman were to be arrested for conducting an illegal occupation of private property.
Maybe they have a simple disagreement on style as far as how to fight the problem of white slavery in this country. This guy seems to want to go with a big PR type push and Sawman seems to be comfortable with boots on the ground plus PR with Contraland.
Update: I comprehend now. Steven D. Kelley appears to believe that under a museum in L.A. there is a large city where child trafficking is going on.
He believes in this because someone he knows had "remote viewed" it... If you watch this video of his you can learn all about his many theories and opinions where he goes on to stitch together as many of the more far out there conspiracies as he can into one large tapestry of... lunacy.
Hell, I'm open to being wrong about this but saying the proof is that someone remote viewed it, well, that gives me nothing to research. Those kinds of claims pray on either people's faith or their gullibility.
I will admit, I don't know much about Sawyer. What I do know is it is obvious that the first location that Sawyer came and looked at was obviously used for trafficking, and clearly there was a rape tree there. It is also obvious children were being held inside a cell of sorts made from a septic type tank. I find it odd that he would be saying different now, and given his ties to such notables as Hillary Clinton whose foundation has been linked a few times to this type of operation it leads me at least to wonder if he was sent down there to assess the damage and then act as a source to discredit the findings.
I would urge you to look up as much footage of the camp in question and then ask yourself how someone like Sawyer could come to the conclusions he is misstating in this video.
He is alleging a lot of untruths. I have been following this as I am local (I live in Tucson) and he is misstating about many things. It was never alleged by VOP that there are children in the first camp. It was said children had been held captive there, and boots were needed in case these children had been moved and could be rescued still was what I was taking from the calls to action. Tucson police have definitely dragged their feet in the investigation, but yes, there was finally an investigation. From the way it was handled, it does appear they were reluctant and their final conclusions that it was just a homeless camp is astounding.
You can see here that this officer is downplaying things, playing ignorant on others and eventually his demeanor is one to let this go now and quit trying to look for more camps. The indisputable facts are that children were held there in a way that they were confined, and there was clearly rapes taking place there. As for Sawyers assertion that they lied about a skull and bones being found there, when in fact they were found at another location up by Marana, once again not sure why he is misstating what they said. Anyone following their video updates know they never misled anyone about bones and a skull. The claims of that has always been Marana from what I have been following, well after Sawyer jumped back on a plane and left them to continue their search alone.
I don't know this dude, but he is really slanting things to make these honorable men here trying to put a stop to this look like liars. I come short of calling Sawyer a liar, but his version he is presenting is not accurate. Given his connection to corrupt politicians ( private security) I do wonder if he is being paid to discredit true heroes who have been nothing but a blessing to abandoned vets and the Tucson community.
Thanks very much for all of the information. I have got allot of catching up to do on this one. This is the first I've heard of what's been going down in Tuscon, so I'm about a week behind on information.
I wanted to add something I feel is very important here. Lewis, who heads up VOP is being slandered by many now online, I even watched a video where it was stated he was a troublemaker at the Bundy Ranch standoff. The only reason the BLM stood down was because of Oathkeepers there willing to die for Bundy's constitutional rights as a freeman defending his land and sovereignty. This same organization has put out the call for boots on the ground here. Would they have done so if they believed Lewis was a nut troublemaker?
He has been on a mission here in Tucson for years now to help the vets who have been abandoned by the government they served, wandering the streets and desert homeless as they are unable to come to terms with life because of their duty. This man has risked his life for Bundy, puts his money and energy into saving homeless vets and now he is expending this energy and resources to put a stop to clear evidence of child trafficking.
Yeah I don't know. I can't speak to his character. There were some troublemakers at the Bundy thing. I'm sure it was probably crawling with operatives and provocateurs. I couldn't say who they would be though. Some of the oath keepers and militia type organizations are highly infiltrated as well. It would be ridiculous to think that they aren't. I remember reading about peace groups getting infiltrated by government agents. It's tough to make heads or tails of things sometimes. The fog of the infowar. Thanks for the additional information!
hah, you sound like me. The only reason I brought up the slander regarding Bundy ranch is that if Oathkeepers had felt he was a problem, they would have ignored him. Now while it is possible the whole Oathkeepers thing is a scam to identify threats to the farmers of citizens, I am still choosing to cling for now to the idea that they are for real.
I also can't deny that this man has been pulling homeless vets off the streets and helping them find their way for years now.
Sorry to inundate you with videos, but this one shows the camp this man built years ago that he pulls these homeless vets off the streets to. He did this without pestering the community or government for money. As with the Oathkeepers, its possible he has been a plant doing shit that needs doing for years, but I really want to believe that he is for real and based on his actually walking the talk like Oathkeepers my intuition says he is real.
No doubt, i'd like it if everyone were real. Yet these things are so cognitively infiltrated. Take a look at the video that rich just posted to me.
The guy in that video seems pissed at Sawman for not believing in his buddies remote visions and then acting on them by conducting an armed occupation of a major tourist attraction in LA.
According to how I see it he's clearly trying to derail Sawman's activities and sell him on the idea of doing something incredibly stupid.
Something that could likely get him either killed or incarcerated. I don't doubt they'd like to see Sawman boxed into the middle of a kill zone just like they did to LaVoy.
I'm going to start calling bullshit out more frequently, especially when it's used to target seemingly well-meaning people who are out there boots on the ground doing good things.
As far as the video in this post of Sawman. There is something fishy with it. There are so many edits to it and then you have the final message which seems to contradict his previous opinions.
I don't know what to make of that but I hope it's ironed out in future interviews.
Even the statement on the video contradicts the speculations that he made three days prior about so-called "rape trees."
Lots of fog, lots of war!
Like I said I can smell a bullshit artist a mile away- it's kept me alive for 72 years. I'm behind Lewis and his crew 100%. This guy is on the level and I don't care about his past... look at mine. "Whosoever is without sin, let him cast the first stone."