I wrote a very long and detailed comment I wanted to turn into a post, specifically responding to each point made by @hivewatcher against @deepdives (not sure if affiliated with @hivewatchers).
I am making this post in rebuttal to the slanderous claims against the #informationwar and #deepdives community. If there is something you think I should rephrase, or a better rebuttal, please comment below.
Where it all started: https://hive.blog/proofofbrain/@apshamilton/re-wilmetcalfe-qvg8pi
My rebuttal
It's quite peculiar that the attacks/criticism that we get is almost entirely either comes from scammers or those revolving around the @deepdives "community". Self-appointed, fake, wannabe "investigative journalists" who exploit the Hive ecosystem to perpetuate lies and dangerous disinformation such as qAnon, flat earth propaganda, NWO reptilian Illuminati, anti vaxxing, plandemic/5G, climate change denial, far-right extremism, homophobia, racism, etc.
I knew Q Anon was a psyop and some people like to entertain the idea that there is some secret hero trying to stop the govt from doing bad, hardly a bad thing to want. Wouldn't you want a secret hero to stop the govt from doing bad things, and want that secret hero to leak information? I wasn't taken in by Q but some were, only a few, not the majority in our tag.
I haven't seen more than 1 flat earther maybe in our tags, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
New World Order is a very real thing, unless you are denying that nations are centralizing power and banding together to become more centralized. Is that even controversial to point that out, why are you on Hive/using cryptocurrency which is pushing for decentralization if you won't recognize the NWO which is the centralization of the world that is happening at an alarming rate,surely you don't mean to imply governments are DECENTRALIZING?
I took the moderna vaccine both doses and I almost passed out from the 1st dose and I had heart inflammation requiring medical care from the 2nd one(my heart might be irreparably damaged for my entire life now, CDC putting out warnings about https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/23/cdc-reports-more-than-1200-cases-of-rare-heart-inflammation-after-covid-vaccine-shots.html). I assessed the risks to my health based on the information I knew at the time, had I have known what we now know about heart inflammation I might not have got the vaccine because I have heart issues in my family. Being informed on what you put into your body isn't a conspiracy, the conspiracy is they hid this information from us and used us as test subjects. The rate of reporting has been estimated to be somewhere around 50x to 100x less for actual events and the 1,200 cases of heart inflammation could be a lot higher. I did call my Dr. to see if I should get the 2nd dose and he advised to do it and I did. I am doing ok now at least, will see what my future holds. Nothing conspiratorial or irrational about anything I did.
There is various information pointing to wuhan as the outbreak origin and it just so happens there is a wuhan institute of virology right there(funny how that works and even Fauci said to investigate that recently),
It's not controversial that cell phones give off radiation, 5G is worse than 4G logically because it's more powerful There are studies out there saying don't put your cell phone in your pocket due to lowering sperm count https://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/news/20080919/cell-phone-use-linked-male-infertility
The climate changes all the time over long periods, and the major driver of climate change is the sun. The USA used to be just ice and now it isn't. Before that it was something else, etc. There were no humans or human activity that caused that to happen, massive amounts of ice were lost to no human fault. Humans likely contribute some amount, whether that is miniscule or a tiny amount is up to interpretation though(or if the amount we contribute makes any meaningful change).
I haven't seen far right extremism in the #informationwar or #deepdives tag almost at all and in fact I have seen a few terrorists who advocate Allah as the one true prophet and saying kill all westerners and have had to mute them, @ sweecee and a few others are pro killing westerners and violently describe how they want to
I've been to a lesbian wedding and have had multiple gay friends in my circles growing up, its a proven fact there are gay animals who are born that way. I had two male guinea pigs growing up, one was gay and kept humping the other one all the time. Why, who knows.
We don't want racism in our community either. Discrimination(commonly interchangeably said as "Racism" today) is an inherent mechanism built into every human and is constantly conflated with racism(Critical Race Theory points this out and I assume you are a leftist and also have this view). To discriminate towards something is like how you are discriminating against us, based on your own bias and unfounded beliefs against us. Or like crossing the street when seeing a pit bull dog or a wolf to get away, or to cross the street because you see a group of males(any race)at night because it could be dangerous, it's a mechanism that can serve us well or fool a person into thinking they are correct in their assessments. In order to get away from discrimination against other humans we have to take the emotion we might feel towards another out of the equation and get to know them(this can be a very difficult thing to do), of which I encourage you to do with getting to know people in our community. If someone is racist against X race and gets angry or lashes out at X race it is because of their emotional underdevelopment, lack of empathy, lack of understanding of another view point, psychopathy(4% of the world's humans are psychopaths), or raised to be that way, and the same can be said for discrimination.
The people reading your comments and my comments will see a stark contrast between myself(leader owner of @informationwar effort and am the co-leader of @deepdives(brought on recently)), and you, who presumably are the owner or one of the people helping with hivewatchers.
I think I was pretty reasonable in my rebuttal and maybe some others disagree.
They call themselves investigative journalists while all they do is posting the Karen/Kevin style of nonsense that they read on Facebook.
They do their "own research" (which basically means reading nonsense on Facebook or dubious conspiracy hypothesis articles and pseudoscience content)
Investigative journalism takes months and sometimes many years of work on the case. It applies principles of the scientific method in the investigation. It is scrutinous and almost always requires traveling and on-the-ground research and investigation. It is very detailed, time-consuming, and hardworking,
Deep Dives ridiculous nonsense has nothing to do with Investigative Journalism.
They actually often have no clue what the scientific method is and refuse to apply it, including applying it to their own thought process.
I have been on Hive for 4 years and have done a lot of research, probably close to 1 or 2 hours of research per day every day for 4 years. There are people in our group that do more than that. Is that enough for you? How much do you do? Do you do that much? Let's try an easy one almost nobody knows, did you know bitcoin's dev team is owned by a big bank called axa ventures? I bet you didn't, and I bet you advocate people use bitcoin, would that then make you the conspiracy theorist? ;)
https://www.axavp.com/avp/blockstream/
Special thanks to HiveWatcher.
Wasn’t familiar with this community
But ya are clearly in the right
Cheers 🍻
Beer
we have been around awhile, feel free to check us out in #informationwar and #deepdives tags and there is also the community for each, most of the posts are in the tag though.
I started to reply... it became too long. I turned it into a post. (Pick a link of your choice... all the same post just different frontends)
https://hive.blog/hive-122315/@dwinblood/my-testimony-in-the-hivewatcher-attack-on-deepdives-informationwar-etc
https://proofofbrain.io/hive-122315/@dwinblood/my-testimony-in-the-hivewatcher-attack-on-deepdives-informationwar-etc
https://peakd.com/hive-122315/@dwinblood/my-testimony-in-the-hivewatcher-attack-on-deepdives-informationwar-etc
A legendary post that tops my own, you are a gentleman and a scholar sir!
I'll go into a longer response later, but there are two points I'd like to support @truhforce's argument
The first point is that @informationwar moderators gave an introduction upon joining the community as a mod; the focus of this introduction was on their own bias. A founding concept of information war is that every argument is subject to the author's biases, and thus it is best to understand own's bias, as well as the biases of the person making the argument, and finally the biases of the sources used. @truthforce has posted an such introduction including his biases.
It is very clear there is no transparency in the attacks upon @deepdives and @informationwar. These attacks echo media talking points of the media without any critical examination of the media itself and without any self-responsibility in revealing their own bias.
Robert Conquest, who studied the leftist democide in Ukraine, suggested "three laws of politics". One of these laws is the following:
@dwinblood , could you weigh in here on @truthforce's post
Ah yes, it would be good to add in the "bias in this account" to my post. Will look those up! Good points!
Done.
I already decided some time ago that I wasn't taking these vaccines under any circumstance. Even if it costs me my job. EDIT: If they show up ever to my house to force me and you don't hear anymore from me after that it will be because I went down fighting. My entire family is likely to do the same though so you might hear about it if it ever comes to that.
I didn't have that option, unfortunately. I had to take it for work or the restrictions from being unvaccinated would have limited my income. I've got too many mouths to feed, in my opinion. Plus taking care of my inlaws. It's a cruel world out there. And I never felt comfortable with how everything was laid out. First, my job pushed the vaccine to all of its employees. Now, they're celebrating those who decided NOT to get the vaccine. They can't decide which way to swing.
I support 8 people on my income. Two of them are my in-laws with the oldest being 90.
We would have found a way. I won't be able to support them very well if I was dead or ill due to the vaccine.
I've actually been planning what to do if I were to lose my job due to the vaccine and we could do it. It would be tough, but being tough is better than being sick or dead.
EDIT: For the record I make less than $80K/year. I support the 8 of us on that. It is also partially why I am moving to a less expensive state.
I can't deny your concerns about vaccine and illness. When I had the second shot I felt like I got hit by an 18-wheeler for two days.
The CDC ran a reporting system from those who participated in the vaccine trials. All age groups suffered some severe reaction or death, but the CDC site didn't go into specifics. I can say, however, that the older age groups had the greatest complications. I'm planning on moving to a less expensive state as well. Cost of living in some places is just ridiculous.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7008e3.htm
That is the way to go, moving to a less expensive state for sure.
The key here is these "vaccines" are Experimental Use Authorization. It is an "experiment". The things they said justified that authorization they have since attacked and indicated they no longer agree with. Yet when stating they no longer agreed with these things they didn't mention these things were what they listed to justify the EUA.
Having this pushed on employees when it is an experiment would be like your employer stating "Let us inject this chemical that we believe is harmless in your arm, or you are fired".
Some people might do so under duress. That is known as COERCION by the way. It is a form of force.
You are not the only one to do so for this reason. My mother took the Pfizer vaccine. None of my children (adults), their kids, my mother and father-in law (90), or my wife have taken any of them and we're prepared to fight and die to make sure that remains the case.
yeah I stumbled on this article now past payout but whatever, it's really well done and yes the world is cruel and getting crueler.... things really started going downhill awhile ago but have sped up as far as moral decay with the Kardashian trash culture and swiping people on who to hook up with, speaking of Vaccines there is no way I am getting one after the horror stories am seeing and hearing , they are way under reporting side effects just like some states completely got busted fudging numbers on nursing homes etc....
Who watches the Hivewatchers?
a @hivewatchr-watcher account could be amusung. these...people...are immune to logic and civilty. OTOH, they go into even more hysteria when mocked
remember when they turned the OK gesture in a "symbol of white supremacy" after 4chn trolled them?
just remember while we laugh at their stupidity, that they carry the stupidity with a LOT of power
It always makes me thing of the Anti-satanism pamphlets that show the symbol for "I love you" as being Satanic.
ROFL
But there is a huge difference between Christian fanatics and leftism worshippers:
So the common idea is the faith exhibited in both religions; a faith that can't be proven on one hand, but which is disproven with every murder, mass murder, and economic failure perpetuated bt the cultists of the left
It's a conspiracy THEY don't want US to question!!! lol
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The Hive watchers are THE problem... mainly run by ONE criminal canadian.
They should fuck off!
Seems that way 2 me
Eh?
Not a fan of Hivewatchers...
My condolences on the shot : \
LOL it was me doing a funny because you said they are Canadian ;)
I took the shot for a myriad of reasons and did do as much research as I could on it. I knew I would have some issue with it and am a young guy pretty healthy and figured I would be ok, I unfortunately got one of the rarer issues with the heart inflammation and it seems to he passed now(it's been a few months).
From what we know now, the moderna "vaccine" doesn't stay in the arm where it is injected like it is supposed to and instead goes throughout the entire body and creates some mild to intense inflammation. Have seen more and more stories of teenagers having heart attacks due to it, it's crazy.
Unfortunately it’s becoming clear it’s not rare
Yes, I am very pissed off about that. It's looking like once the number are adjusted for under-reporting it may be hundreds of thousands of people with heart inflammation incidents.
interesting
i took the j&j shot this last friday
i have been dealing with pain in my arm for a year (neurological & inflammation)
this leads up to my er trip last night; my forearm was showing indicators of paralyzation (numb, tingling), and the pain level shot up to a 9 esp in wrist & elbow, finally a had a rush of confusion and light-headednes,
i thought it was just an escalation of an ongoing issue, but the point about the vax causing inflammation is new to me
Some of the vaccines(not sure if it applies to j&j) have an issue where it was supposed to stick to the area it is injected it, they call it being sticky i guess. Typically the vaccines we all get when we are growing up are all put into your left arm, the pain stays there and doesn't go anywhere else. These "vaccines" they are giving us now by moderna weren't made correctly and are causing some huge issues, heart attacks in teenages and brain issues in others.
Hope you are able to get the inflammation down!
they gave me prednisone and morphine. from my update:
I have dcided that i like morphine LOL, rven tho I am still goofy from it
Too bad you did not research ...hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin zinc. vit D
I was only made aware of it recently via Bret Weinstein's podcast. Yes I agree.
Since the start, I'm not a fan of opinion flagging.
That's why we need real SMTs, so every community can build their own token and life in their own bubble if wanted.
Sorry i don't read all, because it is super long :D
No problem hehe. I agree. Having many communities is the way
No mention of us Young Earth Creationists. Gotta step up mah game.
I look forward to it lol
Muy interesante lo que comentas, no conocía de ustedes pero me gusta lo que has dicho porque tienes razón, no porque un político, papá etc asevere algo las personas deben aceptarlo e ir como borregos detrás de ellos, todo tiene un fin y es crear caos y que la humanidad se acabe entre ellos mismos con violencia. Un líder no está para desunir, si no para crear conciencia, mejorar las cosas, promover el avance positivo. Me gustó mucho tu post.
@curangel Would be interested to know if the downvote was due to thinking the post is overrewarded or due to believing hivewatcher is in the right.
Making a big downvote on a post that was number 3 for a day or two can give the impression of taking a side if nothing is said of why.
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