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RE: The Irresponsible Bot Owners Contributing to the Demise of Steem

I think what @daydreams4rock is getting at is that Steemit isn't about quality content, its about playign the game. Nothing wrong with that, but its the reality. On youtube quality content alone can go viral. Here on steemit you need to know the right tags to use, the right people to befriend the right upvote bots to pay.

I've had posts that get 150 upvotes which is a clear indicication people enjoyed the content but I still only earn 47 cents where as someone else creates a shit piece of content that gets 7 votes and they earn $120

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"On youtube quality content alone can go viral."

And you would make pennies, and then maybe even have some of your vids demonetised if they are political in nature.

Making money online isn't simple period so I'm not gonna knock steemit too hard for that and while Youtube does have it's problems I've made WAY more on Youtube than I've ever made here.

The whole pennies on Youtube thing is kinda a myth, at times I have over a $20 CPM, I havn't seen my CPM under $15 in a long time, I would say $17 is about average for me. My content appeals to certain advertisers of SAAS software, ecommerce platforms etc. It's very true however that more general types of content ie a vlog isn't going to monetize well. There are Youtubers who are basically famous who are still working restaurant jobs but its because while they do have a shit ton of views, none of those views are really catered towards anything so maybe a company like Pepsi will say shit we/'ll pay $1 per 1000 views just for brand recognition but your not going to have anyone really willing to pay a lot.

On the flip side an appliance repair guy who starts a channel and show syou how to diagnose a problem with your dishwaasher and how to fix it is going to get very high CPM because anyone watching that video is almost guranteed to buy a part to fix their machine so advertisers will pay more.

Not saying Youtube is perfect and not saying steemit is shit but there's no denying while it has issues Youtube is a far superior platform if for no other reason than the algorithm alone. Youtube knows content I wanna see that I dont even know that I wanna see. Steemit I have to do a TON of searching to find something that interests me.

It's so painful and discouraging, doesn't even spur someone to produce an outstanding content that would end up going unnoticed

Can be the case that he meant that. And yes I agree on that, you got to get noticed, or spend tons of money here. I don't do that though, nothing in my wallet comes from fiat investments, only earnings here. So it is possible, really! But it's harder and harder getting noticed, totally agree on this .. lots of bullshit trending topics here, from people that only post crap. Just in case he needed some tips, I did take the time to look at some posts, to see if I can contribute in any way as he is also using bots to have higher payouts, and that will make other groups not vote you. Everyone has different skills, and desires, just trying to help him out...

I used to think that @berniesanders was the bad guy instead of the fun guy ;) But I have a different view on that by now, and that jerrybanshit video kicked me even further to the other side .. By the way @berniesanders why don't you drop a better entry for @comedyopenmic ? Just to show Jerry who's boss??? And if you do, do it after tomorrow if you please, so I can judge it lol

He probably won't reply to you, because you've spelled his name wrong :D
it's @berniesanders not @berniesaunders
Not trying to be a grammar nazi, just mentioning it because he might not see your reply in his notifications.

Fully agree with what you said though ;-)

No offence taken @daan I am still noy fully operational that's obvious damn... changed it.. thanks grammar nazi :-)

@rulesforrebels i had to upvpte you.
Now riddle me how this works. I have seen some people with 1000 upvotes and 30$ and another with 50 and heck a lot of $$$

Is it knowing which bots pay big or is it knowing the whales who upvote you? I am very new on this but it is something i have been following and can't understand

This is probably my biggest problem with Steemit and I've actually written a couple posts about this topic. So I have had posts that get 150 plus upvotes so to me that means the community as a whole liked my content, however that post will only earn me like $3 where as I'll see another post with 7 upvotes that makes $120.

I understand that votes from people with higher steem power are more valuable but it seems really skewed that a post with overwhelming support ie 150 upvotes can earn nothing while one with 7 can earn hundreds of dollars. The balance of power is way out of wack.

I dont know a perfect solution. At first I thought make an algorithm so that after a certain volume of votes a post earns some type of bonus or something to kind of balance out the whale power however people will just use upvote bots or buy accounts and upvote stuff in large numbers. I'm not really sure what the solution is. Even sites like Youtube wrestle with this, they used to rank stuff based on upvotes and then realized its too easy to use bots to upvote so had to go to watch time as a main factor in their algorithm