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RE: Can You Trademark a Steem Hashtag?

in #law7 years ago (edited)

Also, It was my first time using the tag in question, and as stated I was unaware of usage terms and rights. Did you even read the post? Not trying to be a dick, just a bit confused by your statements.

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Well, to be honest, your post reads like you are "trying to be a dick" and I don't say that to be inflammatory. Just honest.

I consider custom tags something to be respected and left for the use of the creator. It's not a matter of the legalism you are going on about in your post. It is about courtesy and respect.

If you create a custom tag for your product, it would be really nice to find posts directly related to the tag in the tag. In fact, I know of people who have been recently looking to find your product and it would have been nice had they been able to locate a tag and find posts about it.

I suppose your right on my tone. As for the legalism, it is relevant if Steem ever wants to be a major player in the social media scene. The rest is just my rant / insights about things I care about so I slightly veered off topic.

I also have come to understand the custom tag thing, which is why I plan on using my own tags and or generic tags from this point forward.

If I where to create a custom tag I would be thrilled to have people use it. Yes, even @berniesanders

If I where to create a custom tag I would be thrilled to have people use it. Yes, even @berniesanders

Yeah I bet you'll love it to death when your own relevant content becomes buried in a mound of garbage and irrelevent posts. Unless of course you are referring to bernie giving a review of your product? Be careful, any review I've ever seen bernie give is usually pretty brutal.

@alexpmorris @luzcypher @omarb @pharesim @jayna @shadowspub @krazykrista @steempowerpics @jackjohanneshemp @minnowsupport @avesa @jepu @gmuxx @meno @inthenow @quoll @saffisara @roofcore @freedomexists @evecab @angelveselinov @simgirl @enginewitty @snook @llfarms @zneeke @jonknight @blockgators @lindahas @katrina-ariel @luisferchav @pathtosuccess @bushkill @thehoneys @wylde @ddrfr33k @bipolar @nostone-unturned @drfunk13 @leejhoops @lucyford @christianwindley @sebi99p

All of these people, including myself, were tagged in your post too. How was that relevant to a vague post about mysterious features?

Can you not see how this looks to other people? You were asked not to use a specific tag which relates to our writers' community, a community we have worked hard to build.

Let's flip this...let's say I use the tag #hastymarkdown on a post about maybe a recipe. Totally unrelated. Is that acceptable?

Appreciate that my man.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Yes, tagging multiple people in a post is basically, 'spammy'. I'm brand new to Steemit...... well, 2 months, but, I've done my research before doing something. I've even gone into chats and asked before using tags to make certain I am not misusing them. Google doesn't like it, facebook, Instagram, and any other 'search' type situation, doesn't appreciate misuse of tags and will 'punish' you for it.

Anyways, my point of being brand new is that, why would you tag me in a post about tradmark or 'laws' on steemit when, ultimately, I am clueless?? So, yes, that's spammy

@thehoneys ,

  • Respectfully, check your facts, the only mention of your name on this Page is in @gmuxx ('s) comment.
    I'll do some legwork for you...
    "Database For THIS post"
  • I did however mention you in a previous post about HastyMarkup. You interacted directly with the official release post. So I thought you might want to now about an update?

If you no longer want updates or interactions with me, let me know. I will be sure to take the necessary steps.

Regards,
@odrau

Ps. Thankfully we have the blockchain with permanent records otherwise, I fear, hearsay, would run rampant.

Check your facts. I said it was in your poorly judged original post. There is no heresay. But by all means, keep going with your passive aggressive replies.

@gmuxx ,
Sure thing, though my reply is technically in the same thread as your comment, my reply was to @thehoneys because they misunderstood your post and thought that you where talking about THIS POST.

You all, have been passive aggressive from the get go, let's be honest. I predicted this kind of in-group mentality and power posturing day one on the platform. It's one of the reasons why the Steem Platforms days are numbered, no one want's to join a platform to be bullied.

Seriously? Are you calling me a bully now? And passive aggressive? I am far from passive aggressive. I am straight up direct. And I've tried to help you.

Please. Wow. SMH.

Look, the bottom line is you are doing spammy practices. If you are not understanding that, I really can't help you. You can continue to defend it, but, you aren't going to fair well with that here.

You DID tag me in two posts, because I get the notifications of it on Steemify. You can see they are two different ones, because at the top of each, one is 16 hours previously, and one is 12 hours previously.

If you want my personal opinion, just apologize and move on. Don't try to defend it. I work with successful people all over the world, and the last thing any of them want is excuses. That's what your defense sounds like to us. You are getting some free coaching, and though it might sound harsh, it's really in gear for you to ultimately have success. Take it or leave it. Up to you.

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 I will not deny mentioning you in two post, the time gap is because the first mention was a mistake post I made.

 At first I was going to just do the update notification via a reply to a main post. I was in the process of editing the reply comment in the text-area, when I decided to just make a new post for the thread.

 As you might guess, I started the new post but left the work in the other reply text-area so that I could do a copy/paste of the information to the new post. At which time I switched back to the reply post and accidentally clicked post. That is the truth, the records will show that I deleted that reply within under a minute.

 The time gap is the time from deletion of the mistake post to the creation of the new post.

Sorry, If this caused you any grief.

Again,

If you no longer want updates or interactions with me, let me know. I will be sure to take the necessary steps.

 Thanks for the advice :)
I will use it when I need it.

Regards,
@Odrau

Acceptable? Yes. I would not care 2 cents.

 To address tagging, it was relative because of prior engagements from all those users listed. Everyone on that list had directly engaged with the prior post about HastyMarkup. It is only natural that I would want to foster engagement for a brand that I am working on by asking the very people that had shown interest.

Since when has being vague in advertising been wrong?

  1. That was the first time I had ever used the tag.
  2. I did not know about the usage restriction
  3. Upon hearing about it, I respected the pull request, Immediately!

I already explained this is my first response comment.

One could argue you have done more harm than good in trying to foster engagement in this way, but it's your show. Personally I hate being tagged like this, I cannot speak for others.

I appreciate you respected the pull request on using #thewritersblock tag, I just wonder what you hoped to gain by this post, claiming Hashtag Imperialism.

 Alright, noted sorry for mentioning you Gmuxx, I'll add you to my no fly list! 😉 Thank You for acknowledging that I respected the pull request. You're the first person that expressed appreciation. I never intended to ruffle feathers and tables turned me being a new user to the platform you to ought too be able to see my point of view. I was not aware of unexpressed usage restrictions.

My post above is not a declaration of war, LoL - cease fire!

Please read this comment in reply to thinknzombie

The following is a parody to help shed more light on the issue. Yes it's in jest - I honestly do not care.

#thewritersblock

The usage of hashtags on my posts that I do not approve of is not in my self interest and as such, please remove your tag from this post.

Can you not see how this looks to other people? A post that I worked hard to build.

I can now see how wrong I was to write such a glowing review of your product.

If you can't see how this is wrong then I have nothing more to say to you.

Sorry about hurt feelings, @gmuxx Just calling it like I see it. In-groups will always hate the "Gadfly." Your desire to remove your review of my product once again showcases how deep rooted the mentality is. A problem that is not just here on Steemit, it is human condition, and as such, it is something that we all struggle with, myself included. I'm not better than the next guy. However, I do feel an obligation to stand up for Truth and at least question the things that I feel are wrong. Again, sorry, but many are often too scared to give honest criticism.

I have heard it said,

Critics are your best friends. Unless they criticize in a manner that causes you to feel totally devastated...

I hope this has not done so - it's was not intention.

I think he was expressing the opposite of appreciation. I'm in the same boat, it makes a post seem like spam mail by tagging people you have no relative interaction with prior.

To address tagging, it was relative because of prior engagements from all those users listed. Everyone on that list had directly engaged with the prior post about HastyMarkup. It is only natural that I would want to foster engagement for a brand that I am working on by asking the very people that had shown interest.

And whatever organic engagement you may have created has since decided it wants nothing more to do with you or your product. A simple 'oops, my bad' would have sufficed, instead you decided to create drama. Great job.