How about doing some research on prophecies in the Bible. Maybe you will see how things are taking place and lining up for the end times. Keep looking up for our redemption draws nigh.
Said no one ever that actually did research. You probably spent more time researching that meme than actually looking into prophecy of the Bible and how things are truly lining up. Seems that's how everyone is anymore though, they just take a side without full knowledge and start regurgitating whatever they were force fed to the point of insanity even though the signs were all around them if they just took the actual time to look.
Next i'm sure you will want to prove your point that God is not real and the Bible was written by men and so on and so on but you will get no argument here. I pray for your soul brother and wish you the best in future meme hunting since that's how you seem to want to spend your valuable time instead of really researching. Best wishes!
How ignorant you are to assume what I have researched. I grew up in a deeply relgious family, attending church weekly and reading the bible and (the entire New Testament and most of the Old Testament) in school untill my sophmore year of college. I've been a memeber of of both protestant and Catholic churches in my life and have spent countless hour researching the history of the bible, The new testament was written by wise Greek and Roman men based on historical records from from the Roman-Jewish scribe Flavius Joesephus. The Jesus of the gospel is clearly an amalgamtion of ancient Egyptian astronomy gods, like Horus and many others(watch the video I posted above in the first thread you commented on). The bible is a product of man, a reaction the Jeudain War and occupation by Rome, Gnostic Greek and Jewish philosphy, and political motivated propaganda from the Flavian Roman Empire, class dismissed.
lol^
I doubt @saved4newlife will respond to this logic, the same way I doubt that his demi-god, Jesus Christ exists. I don't know if there is no god, however, the bible is very weak empirical evidence for the claim that there is. The devout make a conscious choice to ignore the credibility of the bible.
What would you want me to say. It's obvious that he and I think differently. I will say one thing. The Bible is written in such a way that if you read a verse and I read the same one, we come away with a different perspective for the most part. I pray before reading my Bible so that God reveals to me the true nature of his message. Others that just read or memorize may get a totally different idea of what was written. That is the wisdom of God. To some many things will be revealed. To scoffers and Mockers not so much. Blessings!
You know what Im going to do after a life for full "sin?" Tell god I love him right before I die so that I can see you in heaven for eternity, We'll have a nice angelic beer and laugh about how easy it is to get in those pearly gates.
This is the best description of that book,
"This book, like it's earlier version, is a "20 pound term paper." Josh props up his premises with as many quotes as possible. But tons of quotes don't make something true. It's very human to trust that any book this long must be true; why would anyone do so much work putting it together if it wasn't? Sorry, but some guys like writing long books. Length doesn't not add up to truth, necessarily.
I have no contempt for Josh at all; he got where he is sincerely, looking for happiness. But people get addicted to painkillers the same way.
My space here is extremely limited, so here are a couple of things to think about:
ETDAV is infested with flaws of reasoning that most individuals, especially young people, are defenseless against.
Falacies of logic are primary tools of most major media and advertisers; after so much exposure to them, many individuals reason like their brains are installed backward. They want easy answers because their culture has reinforced the idea that answers should come easily: Buy a book, read it, believe it. Easy.
Life's not like that, though, and serious Bible knowledge is not easily aquired. It wasn't until I took a logic course in college that I knew there how much my thinking and analytical skills could be improved. It was through such learning that I came to question my American Christian experience, to seek clarity and a more realistic though life.
Some of the hardest questions about the Bible are the simplest. Here are a few McDowell does not cover.
If God inspired the Bible, why does it have any major problems at all?
Why are there 4 gospels and all those epistles instead of just one unified "New Testament?"
If a written record is/was so important, why did Jesus commit nothing to writing nor tell anyone else to take dictation?
Why are devotees of others faiths (or no faith) responsible for so much of the super cool stuff we enjoy in modern life?
What's up with this 2000 year delay in the second coming? (as if we haven't suffered quite enough yet?)
The God of the Tower of Babel story is threatened by the tower itself. How can this be?
Righteous Lot very crudely offered his virgin daughters to an angry mob for sexual sport. Nice guy; very righteous.
Lot's daughters got him drunk and conceived children by him. Nice girls; very righteous...
How has the Bible so easily been used to justify every sort of atrocity?"
Agreed the facts show he was here in the form of his son (God on earth) and there is proof that the people of the Bible also existed but we still need faith. We are saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus.
Yes! We need to believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins in this world and if we come to him in Faith we are saved by his Grace. Many Blessings to you!
Last one,
“Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.
No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.” - George Carlin
No. You can prove God exists. You don't actually need faith, facts are quite clear.
Where are these facts?
How about doing some research on prophecies in the Bible. Maybe you will see how things are taking place and lining up for the end times. Keep looking up for our redemption draws nigh.
Do some research yourself, there is zero credible evidence for the biblical.
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Said no one ever that actually did research. You probably spent more time researching that meme than actually looking into prophecy of the Bible and how things are truly lining up. Seems that's how everyone is anymore though, they just take a side without full knowledge and start regurgitating whatever they were force fed to the point of insanity even though the signs were all around them if they just took the actual time to look.
Next i'm sure you will want to prove your point that God is not real and the Bible was written by men and so on and so on but you will get no argument here. I pray for your soul brother and wish you the best in future meme hunting since that's how you seem to want to spend your valuable time instead of really researching. Best wishes!
How ignorant you are to assume what I have researched. I grew up in a deeply relgious family, attending church weekly and reading the bible and (the entire New Testament and most of the Old Testament) in school untill my sophmore year of college. I've been a memeber of of both protestant and Catholic churches in my life and have spent countless hour researching the history of the bible, The new testament was written by wise Greek and Roman men based on historical records from from the Roman-Jewish scribe Flavius Joesephus. The Jesus of the gospel is clearly an amalgamtion of ancient Egyptian astronomy gods, like Horus and many others(watch the video I posted above in the first thread you commented on). The bible is a product of man, a reaction the Jeudain War and occupation by Rome, Gnostic Greek and Jewish philosphy, and political motivated propaganda from the Flavian Roman Empire, class dismissed.
What? WaAAT WhAAAAT? No retort S4NL ??? Damn.................
lol^
I doubt @saved4newlife will respond to this logic, the same way I doubt that his demi-god, Jesus Christ exists. I don't know if there is no god, however, the bible is very weak empirical evidence for the claim that there is. The devout make a conscious choice to ignore the credibility of the bible.
What would you want me to say. It's obvious that he and I think differently. I will say one thing. The Bible is written in such a way that if you read a verse and I read the same one, we come away with a different perspective for the most part. I pray before reading my Bible so that God reveals to me the true nature of his message. Others that just read or memorize may get a totally different idea of what was written. That is the wisdom of God. To some many things will be revealed. To scoffers and Mockers not so much. Blessings!
OK :)
You know what Im going to do after a life for full "sin?" Tell god I love him right before I die so that I can see you in heaven for eternity, We'll have a nice angelic beer and laugh about how easy it is to get in those pearly gates.
Zero may be a stretch on your part. If you are really interested see here, just as one example of hundreds:
https://www.amazon.com/New-Evidence-That-Demands-Verdict/dp/0785242198/ref=sr_1_2/134-4363447-8714920?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1503591206&sr=1-2&keywords=evidence+that+demands+a+verdict
This is the best description of that book,
"This book, like it's earlier version, is a "20 pound term paper." Josh props up his premises with as many quotes as possible. But tons of quotes don't make something true. It's very human to trust that any book this long must be true; why would anyone do so much work putting it together if it wasn't? Sorry, but some guys like writing long books. Length doesn't not add up to truth, necessarily.
I have no contempt for Josh at all; he got where he is sincerely, looking for happiness. But people get addicted to painkillers the same way.
My space here is extremely limited, so here are a couple of things to think about:
ETDAV is infested with flaws of reasoning that most individuals, especially young people, are defenseless against.
Falacies of logic are primary tools of most major media and advertisers; after so much exposure to them, many individuals reason like their brains are installed backward. They want easy answers because their culture has reinforced the idea that answers should come easily: Buy a book, read it, believe it. Easy.
Life's not like that, though, and serious Bible knowledge is not easily aquired. It wasn't until I took a logic course in college that I knew there how much my thinking and analytical skills could be improved. It was through such learning that I came to question my American Christian experience, to seek clarity and a more realistic though life.
Some of the hardest questions about the Bible are the simplest. Here are a few McDowell does not cover.
Agreed the facts show he was here in the form of his son (God on earth) and there is proof that the people of the Bible also existed but we still need faith. We are saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus.
Yes! We need to believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins in this world and if we come to him in Faith we are saved by his Grace. Many Blessings to you!
Last one,
“Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man.
No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results.” - George Carlin
Bless you and be well! I hope you find what you are looking for.
I reject your blessing, have a good one
I will. Keep looking up and remember this conversation the day Jesus returns because it will be burnt in your memory. :)
The Rapture will be an A++ hollywood blockbuster, whens it coming out?
Yes if you say so. Jesus loves you!