How about doing some research on prophecies in the Bible. Maybe you will see how things are taking place and lining up for the end times. Keep looking up for our redemption draws nigh.
Said no one ever that actually did research. You probably spent more time researching that meme than actually looking into prophecy of the Bible and how things are truly lining up. Seems that's how everyone is anymore though, they just take a side without full knowledge and start regurgitating whatever they were force fed to the point of insanity even though the signs were all around them if they just took the actual time to look.
Next i'm sure you will want to prove your point that God is not real and the Bible was written by men and so on and so on but you will get no argument here. I pray for your soul brother and wish you the best in future meme hunting since that's how you seem to want to spend your valuable time instead of really researching. Best wishes!
How ignorant you are to assume what I have researched. I grew up in a deeply relgious family, attending church weekly and reading the bible and (the entire New Testament and most of the Old Testament) in school untill my sophmore year of college. I've been a memeber of of both protestant and Catholic churches in my life and have spent countless hour researching the history of the bible, The new testament was written by wise Greek and Roman men based on historical records from from the Roman-Jewish scribe Flavius Joesephus. The Jesus of the gospel is clearly an amalgamtion of ancient Egyptian astronomy gods, like Horus and many others(watch the video I posted above in the first thread you commented on). The bible is a product of man, a reaction the Jeudain War and occupation by Rome, Gnostic Greek and Jewish philosphy, and political motivated propaganda from the Flavian Roman Empire, class dismissed.
lol^
I doubt @saved4newlife will respond to this logic, the same way I doubt that his demi-god, Jesus Christ exists. I don't know if there is no god, however, the bible is very weak empirical evidence for the claim that there is. The devout make a conscious choice to ignore the credibility of the bible.
Oh, I'm not one to agree with man's version but I do believe in a higher power/spirit. Just walk outside and look around. As for the bible, great book,wonderful stories, not that old. Ancient Sumerian sanskrit is much, much older and has it's place in my mind with the origins of the bible later on. It's all very interesting and although we won't ever have all the pieces of the puzzle one must at least gather as many as they can. The human race, IMO, is far older than we are told with a hidden past. We're led to believe specifics and that's where most are............. I digress.
What would you want me to say. It's obvious that he and I think differently. I will say one thing. The Bible is written in such a way that if you read a verse and I read the same one, we come away with a different perspective for the most part. I pray before reading my Bible so that God reveals to me the true nature of his message. Others that just read or memorize may get a totally different idea of what was written. That is the wisdom of God. To some many things will be revealed. To scoffers and Mockers not so much. Blessings!
What I would want is that you stop going up to secular people (I've even seen you do this to a Muslim too) and tell them that Jesus loves them or that the rapture is coming and that they are going to burn in hell. All Im saying is that I dont know, but what we do know is that the bible is not evidence for anything, in fact it has been discredited as fiction, plagerism, and propaganda time and time again with real world data, not metaphysical mumbo jumbo.
You know what Im going to do after a life for full "sin?" Tell god I love him right before I die so that I can see you in heaven for eternity, We'll have a nice angelic beer and laugh about how easy it is to get in those pearly gates.
This is the best description of that book,
"This book, like it's earlier version, is a "20 pound term paper." Josh props up his premises with as many quotes as possible. But tons of quotes don't make something true. It's very human to trust that any book this long must be true; why would anyone do so much work putting it together if it wasn't? Sorry, but some guys like writing long books. Length doesn't not add up to truth, necessarily.
I have no contempt for Josh at all; he got where he is sincerely, looking for happiness. But people get addicted to painkillers the same way.
My space here is extremely limited, so here are a couple of things to think about:
ETDAV is infested with flaws of reasoning that most individuals, especially young people, are defenseless against.
Falacies of logic are primary tools of most major media and advertisers; after so much exposure to them, many individuals reason like their brains are installed backward. They want easy answers because their culture has reinforced the idea that answers should come easily: Buy a book, read it, believe it. Easy.
Life's not like that, though, and serious Bible knowledge is not easily aquired. It wasn't until I took a logic course in college that I knew there how much my thinking and analytical skills could be improved. It was through such learning that I came to question my American Christian experience, to seek clarity and a more realistic though life.
Some of the hardest questions about the Bible are the simplest. Here are a few McDowell does not cover.
If God inspired the Bible, why does it have any major problems at all?
Why are there 4 gospels and all those epistles instead of just one unified "New Testament?"
If a written record is/was so important, why did Jesus commit nothing to writing nor tell anyone else to take dictation?
Why are devotees of others faiths (or no faith) responsible for so much of the super cool stuff we enjoy in modern life?
What's up with this 2000 year delay in the second coming? (as if we haven't suffered quite enough yet?)
The God of the Tower of Babel story is threatened by the tower itself. How can this be?
Righteous Lot very crudely offered his virgin daughters to an angry mob for sexual sport. Nice guy; very righteous.
Lot's daughters got him drunk and conceived children by him. Nice girls; very righteous...
How has the Bible so easily been used to justify every sort of atrocity?"
Agreed the facts show he was here in the form of his son (God on earth) and there is proof that the people of the Bible also existed but we still need faith. We are saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus.
Where are these facts?
How about doing some research on prophecies in the Bible. Maybe you will see how things are taking place and lining up for the end times. Keep looking up for our redemption draws nigh.
Do some research yourself, there is zero credible evidence for the biblical. )
Said no one ever that actually did research. You probably spent more time researching that meme than actually looking into prophecy of the Bible and how things are truly lining up. Seems that's how everyone is anymore though, they just take a side without full knowledge and start regurgitating whatever they were force fed to the point of insanity even though the signs were all around them if they just took the actual time to look.
Next i'm sure you will want to prove your point that God is not real and the Bible was written by men and so on and so on but you will get no argument here. I pray for your soul brother and wish you the best in future meme hunting since that's how you seem to want to spend your valuable time instead of really researching. Best wishes!
How ignorant you are to assume what I have researched. I grew up in a deeply relgious family, attending church weekly and reading the bible and (the entire New Testament and most of the Old Testament) in school untill my sophmore year of college. I've been a memeber of of both protestant and Catholic churches in my life and have spent countless hour researching the history of the bible, The new testament was written by wise Greek and Roman men based on historical records from from the Roman-Jewish scribe Flavius Joesephus. The Jesus of the gospel is clearly an amalgamtion of ancient Egyptian astronomy gods, like Horus and many others(watch the video I posted above in the first thread you commented on). The bible is a product of man, a reaction the Jeudain War and occupation by Rome, Gnostic Greek and Jewish philosphy, and political motivated propaganda from the Flavian Roman Empire, class dismissed.
What? WaAAT WhAAAAT? No retort S4NL ??? Damn.................
lol^
I doubt @saved4newlife will respond to this logic, the same way I doubt that his demi-god, Jesus Christ exists. I don't know if there is no god, however, the bible is very weak empirical evidence for the claim that there is. The devout make a conscious choice to ignore the credibility of the bible.
Oh, I'm not one to agree with man's version but I do believe in a higher power/spirit. Just walk outside and look around. As for the bible, great book,wonderful stories, not that old. Ancient Sumerian sanskrit is much, much older and has it's place in my mind with the origins of the bible later on. It's all very interesting and although we won't ever have all the pieces of the puzzle one must at least gather as many as they can. The human race, IMO, is far older than we are told with a hidden past. We're led to believe specifics and that's where most are............. I digress.
Your opinion. I just can't even imagine how you will call him a demi-god to his face on judgement day. I hope you have asbestos armor. :)
What would you want me to say. It's obvious that he and I think differently. I will say one thing. The Bible is written in such a way that if you read a verse and I read the same one, we come away with a different perspective for the most part. I pray before reading my Bible so that God reveals to me the true nature of his message. Others that just read or memorize may get a totally different idea of what was written. That is the wisdom of God. To some many things will be revealed. To scoffers and Mockers not so much. Blessings!
What I would want is that you stop going up to secular people (I've even seen you do this to a Muslim too) and tell them that Jesus loves them or that the rapture is coming and that they are going to burn in hell. All Im saying is that I dont know, but what we do know is that the bible is not evidence for anything, in fact it has been discredited as fiction, plagerism, and propaganda time and time again with real world data, not metaphysical mumbo jumbo.
OK :)
You know what Im going to do after a life for full "sin?" Tell god I love him right before I die so that I can see you in heaven for eternity, We'll have a nice angelic beer and laugh about how easy it is to get in those pearly gates.
Blessings
Zero may be a stretch on your part. If you are really interested see here, just as one example of hundreds:
https://www.amazon.com/New-Evidence-That-Demands-Verdict/dp/0785242198/ref=sr_1_2/134-4363447-8714920?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1503591206&sr=1-2&keywords=evidence+that+demands+a+verdict
This is the best description of that book,
"This book, like it's earlier version, is a "20 pound term paper." Josh props up his premises with as many quotes as possible. But tons of quotes don't make something true. It's very human to trust that any book this long must be true; why would anyone do so much work putting it together if it wasn't? Sorry, but some guys like writing long books. Length doesn't not add up to truth, necessarily.
I have no contempt for Josh at all; he got where he is sincerely, looking for happiness. But people get addicted to painkillers the same way.
My space here is extremely limited, so here are a couple of things to think about:
ETDAV is infested with flaws of reasoning that most individuals, especially young people, are defenseless against.
Falacies of logic are primary tools of most major media and advertisers; after so much exposure to them, many individuals reason like their brains are installed backward. They want easy answers because their culture has reinforced the idea that answers should come easily: Buy a book, read it, believe it. Easy.
Life's not like that, though, and serious Bible knowledge is not easily aquired. It wasn't until I took a logic course in college that I knew there how much my thinking and analytical skills could be improved. It was through such learning that I came to question my American Christian experience, to seek clarity and a more realistic though life.
Some of the hardest questions about the Bible are the simplest. Here are a few McDowell does not cover.
Agreed the facts show he was here in the form of his son (God on earth) and there is proof that the people of the Bible also existed but we still need faith. We are saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus.