Hey! Good to see you.
The flow of thoughts here, of course there's still a lot more to say, about everything. A lot more still locked inside. Plenty of things that all require heavy deep thought to process, all at once.
The AI art stuff. I could release something and to those new to my work, they might just overlook it thinking it's just another AI image. There's so many now, the sights have become a part of the background noise. Imagery is like clouds now. So I'll need to be a fucking thuderstorm.
Thanks!
I'm sure you have plenty to say and a multitude more locked away. Processing.....all at once sounds overwhelmingly intense. Got any secrets you want to share about how you do that? (yeah, that's a serious question)
I'm afraid of what I'll say if I talk most of the time, especially irl. It's spilled over into blocking my ability to write. I've nudged myself to get on today to engage to help nudge a post out of me (loads of images ready...but the words...).
The ai art stuff, if you look closely at any of it, it's very obvious all of it is missing an essential element, one that isn't machine or human, one that defies word labels but becomes apparent when one can see. The more something is automated, the less of this essential, indefinable element it has within it.
A note on ChatGPT. I have not and will not use such a thing, but was in conversation with someone (offchain) who proeeded to ask that thing questions and then reply to me with that thing's answers. This individual said to me that ChatGPT can remember for them, etc, etc, etc. It spoke volumes to me about how sick society has become. I don't see the point of creating if one is not involved in doing the process itself. Not a new opinion of mine, since a professor I had farmed all her sculpture designs out to be made by others. I better stop before this goes into a rant.
I wouldn't describe it as intense. How do I describe my thoughts? I feel like that's impossible. Words aren't enough. I can hear my thoughts and see my thoughts but there's no sound or light bouncing off objects. I don't know how others think so I can't draw comparisons. Impossible to answer that.
I can also see how AI art is missing that element. That element is about as hard to explain as thoughts are.
And I've messed around with the new Bing search chatbot, and actually enjoy it. But I'm not having conversations with it. Sure it can respond in a way that feels like a conversation but I know to not let it manipulate me, because if I did, that's actually me manipulating myself.
Well that's quite an answer. Complex. Multi-faceted. Visual. A full bodied thought about thoughts. Words are never enough, but I find they have the potential to create images and whole worlds, despite their static quality.
Yeah, that element, you know what I mean. It's something I pick up in all of your art, also your writing, which is the appeal for me. It's what I look for in all creations by anyone...the degree to which that element is present.
LOL! I didn't know there is a Bing one. I admit that I ignore a lot of what goes on in society, have done so for many years, so it never makes it onto my radar. I guess this is the direction society wants to go in, since it seems to be ever growing with more and more support for this direction.
Now I'm thinking.
So, that element, is not created or manufactured. Manifested, maybe? A sense? Hmmm.
And thoughts are so damn hard to explain yet there are people attempting to simulate actual thought artificially? Perhaps communication but not actual thought. Can't even call thought an ability. It's just there. Chaotic; chaos (but I don't mean running through the streets burning shit). That can't be coded. As soon as it's coded it's no longer chaos.
So here I am thinking but the words coming out are nowhere near what I'm actually thinking. Sure I could use more words and give this more thought then add even more words. But I saw something that triggered this thought process. Painting a picture won't describe it either.
If it's "artificial intelligence" and you think you have a full understanding of thought, show me how a dog thinks.
And the Bing chatbot just makes googling more like a conversation. Makes searching a little more efficient, for quick stuff. And it remembers context so you can dig deeper but be vague with your queries. Sometimes it'll give you a reasonable answer. Other times it provides sources and links, as the answer.
I stumped it talking about time travel. It was restricted by a definition and couldn't think beyond that or what's known.
That's closer. It's impossible to put into words. Words are probably the most problematic form of communication for many reasons, imo. A way to witness it in process is to observe while doing. I suspect you're already familiar with self-study and observing oneself, one's thoughts, etc., so this is just an expansion of that.
Yes, thought is just there, or rather many thoughts are there and ongoing.
All of that is how it goes. It can be frustrating, limiting, and other things. Thoughts are fluid and constantly changing. Words, images, 3D, video, are all static. This is one difficulty in attempting to put thoughts into words, images, etc. It is an attempt to confine something fluid and ever changing into something frozen and static, such as applying a word, or words to do so. This is why I refer to words as "word labels", so that I don't forget that all words really are, are at best, agreed upon static labels for whatever is in that particular box.
Hilarious. Have you ever attempted to communicate with a dog, or any animal, without words, eye contact, and/or gestures?
Interesting how the Bing chatbot works, thanks for explaining. It's still learning. Its hard to fathom so many changes rapidly developing within a 20 year time period.
That's even more hilarious.
It's funny. I added some shit to that response about chaos, rather chaotically. I apologize for those edits. Suddenly became lost in thought and was basically jotting down notes outta nowhere.
https://alpha.leofinance.io/threads/view/nonameslefttouse/re-leothreads-c4bkszsv
To follow that you have to click the response to see the next one. I've already been thinking about this stuff a lot. In a site like that one must cram an actual thought into 240 characters or less. Kind of like Twitter; not the right place to be thinking and converting into words.
There's a lot of dumbed down data out there AI uses and requires in order to be "smart".
And the thing about the dog thinking. In order to simulate that artificially, the human has to guess, then put it in code, and the result is not an artificial dog, thinking.
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