Get used to saying that.
"Welcome"
People will start coming back soon.
Don't hold a grudge.
It's been an incredibly difficult time to be here. Not just lately either. For a long time.
A lot of little projects popped up. Some of this community, original diehard "Steemians", as they were called; they left. A lot of those little projects, knockoffs, and clones of what we're doing here, copied some of the same problems or went backwards, or screwed up, royally, in no time.
I won't mention any names of those projects though, and I'm glad I didn't waste any time double posting.
I'm a huge fan of mistakes.
Once you make one, and see yourself, honestly; there's the new and improved you.
I don't blame those people for leaving. Majority of us here are powerless. Doesn't matter what you say, how you say it, where you put it; yelling at the clouds.
Until the ball finally starts rolling again. Maybe I did make an impact. Maybe some of things you said did matter. Maybe they were listening; instead of talking.
Palnet
The epitome of perfect timing.
The answer to so many questions.
Will 50/50 work? Yes. Even though many said, without any proof, that nobody would work for 50%, and even though many said, without any proof, people would earn less; Palnet proved them to be wrong.
People are flocking to Palnet, even though curators take 50%.
And look at this:
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Currently, one PAL is worth $0.16. I earned about $1.40 more in PAL. Forget about the selfishness though. Who cares about me. That post generated $9.12 for the entire Palnet community members who contributed to that post versus the $4.06 placed in the hands of the Steemit community.
Of course I'm happy to be a contributing member of both communities. It's all STEEM. All I'm noticing is how much more value could be placed into the Steemit community under a 50/50 system with more curators willing to contribute. More people willing to vote means more to the content producer, even though the content producer takes a smaller percentage, plus more value generated and dispersed to curators.
Everyone earned more in this example.
If I'm not mistaken...
That's a good thing.
And I'm certain once people begin to contribute again, instead of getting paid to look away, like they do now on Steemit; I have a strong feeling many who left, will return. I have a feeling, they will want to contribute.
I'm not going to hold a grudge. I know some folks aren't going to like me too much, for being so outspoken about a few problems in the past. If people are voting again and skipping over my work if they see it, just because it's mine; that's fine.
I can start again.
Anyway
I just felt like writing down some thoughts tonight.
My humor posts lately haven't been performing too well. I've been experimenting with comedy again so of course I miss the crowds. It was cool though to see a few stop in and tell me I brightened up their day. As ridiculous and obscene as some of those bits can be, the goal is to make someone out there smile. I know that sounds lame to some of you out there but trust me when I say, it's important to me.
Art posts have been doing well but again, the art is nothing without eyes to see it. I think I can do better once the crowds form.
Here's an old one:
One of my favorites...
And the first one who can share the song that went along with that image above when it was first released will receive a 100% vote. Simply place it in the comment section below.
And more interestingly, it created 13.18 for both communities combined.
When distribution is decent enough, 50/50 will work well enough and better than it is now on Steem. Most of the big stake is non-voting so it will put more in the hands of creators and active voters. Those that don't deserve it in their hands, ,it will be up to the community to adjust, not whales. People like to talk about community when placing votes, they shy away from it when they have to do the dirty work.
I just want to add in regards to some comments I read ...
Fuckity, fuck, fuck.. fucked up fucks.
Keeping it family friendly ^
The thing about distribution is it always gots fucked yo once something is valuable. Once pal becomes more and more popular, whales will start to emerge. If I wanted to I could sit back and buy up all the pal and become a mega whale and what then? Eos did a year long ico to shoot for a perfect distribution and still ended up with whale collusion. 50/50 works no matter the distribution, it works because it makes curating profitable to everyone, minnows and whales alike. I bet if you made pal 75/25 - over time you would see the exact same issues steem has been plagued with. I love pal, and the idea of communities, but as long as you have a free market to sell and buy coins, that is the beginning of the end of your great distribution.
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Some will never power up, others have no need to powerdown. It is no different anywhere else in the world.
while I understand that the EIP is going to cause some disruption while it finds a new base, isn't that what we are here for - to disrupt?
Btw, I hope married life is treating you well. =)
There are solutions to the problem that are ignored. The problem is not the rate of financial incentive to manipulate rewards via stake, but that potential to manipulate. It is stake weighting itself that creates the problem of distribution. Curation rewards at any level can only worsen the problem if it exists. Absent unlimited stake weighting, curation rewards no longer are mechanisms that encourage profiteering and extraction of the value of the investment vehicle.
There are reasons that stock corporations do not preserve healthy ecosystems, and generally off shore expenses while extracting value maximally, and it is unrestricted stake weighting behind all of them.
Nature is proving to be a font of wisdom to researchers developing technology and biomimicry has been critical to many cutting edge advances of late. One thing you see in natural ecosystems is a balance between predators and prey, both in population and body size. The predators are confined to limits that reflect the ability of prey to succeed.
Only successful prey can support successful predators sustainably. Nature has crafted ecosystems and species that reflect this reality. Predatory species are limited to consuming ~10% of their prey, and this weighting is demonstrated in every such relationship on Earth I have familiarity with. Business has not. This produces the unsustainable economies we observe today. [Edit: I have been both a professional biologist and an accredited investor, for what it's worth.]
On Steem, unrestricted stake weighting enables the whales to extract ~90% of rewards and leaves content creators sharing the rest. This is the opposite of what is observed in predator/prey relationships in nature. It is hubris to think that the result of more than 3 billion years of experience can easily be improved on, but fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
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Good point.
That dirty work. I'll be wearing my gloves, don't you worry.
L O fucking L
Your early morning call. You must wake up. Wake up. Wake up, man! Wake up, child!
Isn't it because STEEM inflation 8.43% + PAL inflation 10.00% = 18.43% Inflation?
Isn't what because of what? And who you calling child, son.
palnet huh? That must be what @clayboyn was telling me about, a last push by some very dedicated steemit folks. Pal is the only discord I ever hang out on other than just some individual convos. Can you drop the link to me?
https://www.palnet.io
Do you use google chrome? You might be interested in Steem Keychain as well. Steem Engine is another good site you'll most likely start using if you haven't already.
Jump into Discord and either look at the pinned messages in general or just ask for help in the help room and they'll link you to the walkthrough, most likely you have a nice claimdrop to pickup on steem engine :)
Reading the comments is often as much fun as reading your post. I'm late, busy painting a deck.
I painted a deck once. It didn't go so well, and that's why.
"I don't blame those people for leaving. Majority of us here are powerless. Doesn't matter what you say, how you say it, where you put it; yelling at the clouds.
Until the ball finally starts rolling again. Maybe I did make an impact. Maybe some of things you said did matter. Maybe they were listening; instead of talking."
Haha I hope that's the case.
Part of why I stayed was because I saw opportunity in the loss of users. I was new and they made room for me by leaving. If anything, I should thank them for giving me a chance.
"My humor posts lately haven't been performing too well."
I like your humor posts. A ton of people are here trying to be serious all the time and I think we need more comedy.
It's always a battle doing humor here. For one, the internet has grown attached to memes and cat videos. Some people will see humor in the written form and not even realize they're reading humor. Most who know me get it but since it is so serious out there, a new member might see my work and think I'm just trolling or something weird like that. Some view fun as a waste of time. It has happened before. I've straight up been asked why I would write something that's meant to be funny.
Haha yeah. I can see that. Even in person, I run into a lot of people who don't catch super obvious jokes. I imagine that those types lead very boring lives where they only listen to slow jazz for entertainment and give up eating boiled eggs because they're too spicy.
Oh well.. Here I am on another platform, this time thanks to you. ;P
At least I don't need any new keys here :) Probably wouldn't have joined otherwise. I wonder how this will turn out.
I wouldn't be interested either if it wasn't STEEM. I wonder as well, and I hope it's good. So many mistakes were made and now it's the perfect time to learn from that.
More than you might think. I for one am glad that your hiatus has ended.
I can sit here and talk all day. Then I read something like that, and I don't know what to say.
Thanks.
Although I am not very optimistic about 50/50, I really hope it works. What matters is a strategy that attracts more accounts
Accounts that curate. That's what's needed.
On the whole, I think most people are more concerned about free downvotes than 50/50 curation.
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How many times have you been downvoted?
Only camillesteemer downvotes me occasionally, but I do tend to avoid commenting on certain people's posts, because they've attracted some crazy downvoting. The flag trash bot even threatens to flag anyone who comments on the posts it's following. Upset the wrong person...
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Yeah but let's be honest about some of them. Not all but some who get consistently flagged do act antisocial, and try to bother people. They can't just run head first into a fist and then not be able to figure out why they got punched. People are afraid of downvotes because other people are saying they're scary. I say, look at any Youtube video. You'll see thousands of downvotes. There's so much trash around because it's up to all of us to clean it up. Nobody does. I've dropped a few downvotes here and there, on abusive posts only there to offer misinformation or it's fraudulent somehow. The shady types then always play the victim card as if they're being attacked, just like a thief acts innocent or gets angry when they get caught shoplifting. Keep calm and carry on. Stay out of the immaturity if it happens. And if you get downvoted for no good reason at all, just know that brings a lot of attention. People always gawk as they roll past the car accident. That post might go down the crapper but you'll get some new followers out of the deal. It happened to me once. If I could go back, I'd do it all over again.
It's the "not all" ones which bothers me. However, you make a good point, uncalled for flags do often get the people standing up for them, if they realise what's going on.
I generally do. That's why, most of the time I don't even know about most of the drama. Easiest to stick to your communities.
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It's a bit disingenuous to ignore that the flaggots fit that shoe too. Shoes come in pairs after all. Given that fact, the downvote pool is directly weighting the stake on one side of that dynamic. That's not the result of ignorance, but a mechanism knowingly being employed that will deliberately censor people here, and drive folks from the platform.
I think we have to ignore the baffling bullshit we're being fed and look at the actions we can observe. Bernie is one of the original ninjaminers and is possessed of a significant portion of the stake from that event. Looking at things from that perspective, it's possible that the downvote pool is entirely Bernie's baby, and thrown into HF21 as his bone for his support for other's bones being in the mix; his part in the scheme to extract money from Steem.
The 35 whales are who has designed HF21, because they hold the stake, and they are the ones in charge of development as a result.
Considering particularly the downvote pool as a critical illustration of the economic policy HF21 is intended to effect, the retention of users and their remuneration appears to be specifically intended to be reduced by the HF.
In business, profiteering is a means of extracting ROI, just as it is on Steem. The content creators can't be sold like forges or presses necessary to allow the victim business to expire, and thus enable profiteers to leave it in their rear view as they move on to the next profit center. This is a problem because it leaves the community able to remodel the platform, and create what they want it to be, and does not leave the profiteers with a clean exit.
I'm not privy to their internal communications, but their actions demonstrate their intent. Rational folks pay attention to facts that impact their circumstances. All substantial stakeholders have shown their chosen means of attaining ROI on Steem to be profiteering. The destruction of the means of production is a necessary part of that business model historically, and having a look at the history of Bain Capital or Kohlbeg, Kravis, Roberts will support this, and that leaving functional mechanisms behind creates liabilities.
People prefer to believe in a world where malice does not exist, because most people aren't malicious. Malice hurts them, and they don't like being hurt. Nonetheless, it exists, and this is why we have courts. Litigation may play a part in the future of Steem, and preventing that liability would be advisable for malicious actors. Ending Steem is one way to reduce that potential liability, to Bernie personally. He's made death threats, committed extortion (see the comments of his bots here), and sexually harassed folks, and those actions are preserved on the blockchain. Ending the blockchain will destroy that evidence.
The downvote pool seems designed to make that possible by destroying the community, the evidence, and the liability for it that might otherwise bite the profiteers in the ass later.
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Why do you write random essays all over the place?
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I missposted my reply to you. I just speak my mind when I think of stuff. You made me think of stuff. Sadly, I am excessively verbose IRL too.
Excellent point, very well made. I have not had chance to look into Palnet yet, but your example just proves what I already believed that the changes in the next hard fork will have a positive effect on the Steem Blockchain. But I think it is just human nature to perceive receiving less in the short term without considering the long term gains.
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That short term thinking stuff kicks a lot of people in the butt. On Palnet, we get proof of concept, but there's still a long ways to go yet; still early in the game. People will need to decide now: Stake now and earn more later, or earn now and complain later about having nothing. People have the perfect opportunity to learn from history.
If/when these changes come into effect on steemit, it'll be slow going at first. That first little while might be enough to trigger some people into freaking out, again, because of the short term memory problems.
i think 50/50 should work and increase overall the votings. Because Steem gets more valuable to holders.
How things work out exactly, we will see after some time.
Yes, it'll take time. Hopefully nobody expects perfection because they'll be in for a world of hurt if that's the case.
it very very bad time here many people are leave this blockchain
but it does;t matter because many of people like us are still here in the
hope for better future
That's right; but they are not only hoping, they are doing. Gettin' shit done.
hun not only hoping
Good morning @nonameslefttouse, your publications are strange, welcome back or something, errors help us grow but the same mistake for the second time is not an error, it is a decision that is consciously under our responsibility, happy Saturday.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Thanks or something!
Congratulations @nonameslefttouse!
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