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RE: → America's Border Horror Stories

in #link7 years ago

I give you a little hint:

Every time Trump goes: But Obama!... he is either
A) lying or
B) trying to divert attention from his doings

But the point is not what happened in history. That may be interesting for historians and you may learn for it.
But problems today are far more important. And if they are started by someone else in the back, that is interesting, but not of interest. Of interest is who did not solve the problems today.

The Afghan war was started by Bush. Bad.
It was continued by Obama. Bad.
It is still continued by Trump. Bad.

But there is only one of those that can end this war, and that one is the person we should look at, right? If I say "Trump, why you don't stop that war", and he says "But Obama!", then he is trying to divert the attention away from the fact that he could have been doing somethign and didn't.

btw. Just a few weeks ago I learned about the name of this tactic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

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Whataboutism
Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.
The term "whataboutery" has been used in Britain and Ireland since the period of the Troubles (conflict) in Northern Ireland. Lexicographers date the first appearance of the variant whataboutism to the 1990s or 1970s, while other historians state that during the Cold War, Western officials referred to the Soviet propaganda strategy by that term.

without directly refuting or disproving their argument, that part is important

It is.

So if I say that are cages like in a zoo, and you are saying "What happens with your kids when you are arrested" then you
A) neither disprove my point
B) nor defending your position that this is okay.

Actually I said that modern zoos don't have cages and that neither are these temporary holding facilities cages, despite the fact they have chain-link fencing in some locations.

If it looks like a cage, is build like a cage and is used to cage people in, then it is a cage.

I don't know why so many people cry foul at that word.

If I drop an big explosive something on you, it is a bomb, even if the military likes to call it propelled shell, autonomous neutralization device or whatever.

That's funny, you are not using the word "cage" with a negative connotation?
The reason that word has become important is because we have the media pushing a totally false narrative that the president said that immigrants are "animals", that is why the word "cage" is important. I have chain-link fence in my backyard, is it a cage?

C) The media is using pictures from the Obama admin to try to denigrate Trump and to divert attention from more important things.

It doesn't matter if the pictures are from the cages today or from the same cages 2 years ago.
Not that I have seen any border detention official saying that that these pictures are old.

Where would you see that? Would the MSM play such a video if there was one?
It matters because you didn't give a shit two years ago but you claim you do now.