Seeming order is what you get to experience at the surface of things, ignoring the inner workings. I gave the example with the human body. Perspective is key here.
Read the article I send you and focus on this premise: "What is order for the spider is chaos for the fly". Again, examine the argument intellectually honest from the economic perspective we are dealing with aka. Ponzi Scheme.
I answered almost every single argument you made about what is Ponzi and what is not. As I mention in the article most people have an issue with the concept of "fraud". The "product" or "return" almost never dictate the nature of pure "Ponzi" (perhaps the very first from Ponzi himself). Every single one after that was no different than let's say selling futures for the housing market that caused the whole system to come down.
So what is actual order?
And you haven't answered anything about ponzi schemes. A ponzi scheme is a criminal enterprise where an individual promises high returns and does nothing but payout older investments with newer money. There is no real economic activity. I say that EVERYTHING does not fall into this category. There are many many many legitimate and legal investments out there.
I gave you an entire article that explains (based on my perspective) that there is no such thing as order. I could be a higg's boson and perceive every electron in an atom perfectly "ordered". I could be a human and everything would seem to be chaotically moving around the nucleus.
I am not sure if its wise to keep repeating myself.
So if there is no such thing as order, what is it that is holding and controlling reality in such a way that we can continue to have this conversation? A higgs boson or a human looking at an atom will see the same orderly atom with electrons zipping around it. We can exploit the orderliness of electrons to make electric power.
time
nop. a boson will see the position of the electrons in an entirely different manner due to its size and place.
irrelevant. one could say that electrons exploit you so you can keep breathing.
So time built the computers and wires and power stations. Time dug out the raw materials and discovered the physical laws of the universe that allow us to manipulate these materials. Time holds electric running along the wires. Time is all the physical laws that we have discovered and use. Time is the strong nuclear force, time is the weak nuclear force, time creates chemical bonds. Time is gravity. Time is the interaction of all these forces that are actually just itself.
A boson will look at the same atom that a human will in a different manner, of course. But they will be looking at the same atom.
We know how electrons interact with reality. We know they interacts with reality in an orderly fashion. With this knowledge, I am keeping my pot of coffee warn on my kitchen counter.
for a specific amount of time. thank you for answering your question
So it is the passage off time that is keeping the coffee warm. Sounds legit.