Washington DC – As the lies that keep the drug war alive begin to come unglued, many of the police officers and government agents who made it possible are now going public with the truth of their experience.
Matthew Fogg, a former US Marshal, and DEA agent is one of those people. Ever since leaving law enforcement he has been speaking out against police brutality, profiling, and the drug war.
Fogg appeared in an interview for Brave New Films, where he discussed the drug war and how race and class play a part the enforcement of drug laws.
In the interview, Fogg said, We were jumping on guys in the middle of the night, all of that. Swooping down on folks all across the country, using these sorts of attack tactics that we went out on, that you would use in Vietnam, or some kind of war-torn zone. All of the stuff that we were doing, just calling it the war on drugs. And there wasn’t very many black guys in my position.
So when I would go into the war room, where we were setting up all of our drug and gun and addiction task force determining what cities we were going to hit, I would notice that most of the time it always appeared to be urban areas.
That’s when I asked the question, well, don’t they sell drugs out in Potomac and Springfield, and places like that? Maybe you all think they don’t, but statistics show they use more drugs out in those areas than anywhere. The special agent in charge, he says 'You know, if we go out there and start messing with those folks, they know judges, they know lawyers, they know politicians. You start locking their kids up; somebody’s going to jerk our chain.' He said, 'they’re going to call us on it, and before you know it, they’re going to shut us down, and there goes your overtime.'"
In 2014, I met up with Fogg after a panel on police militarization at the Cato Institute in Washington DC.
Although Fogg was a former law enforcement officer, he had some of the most radical opinions on the panel when it came to solving the problem of police accountability. Fogg was outspoken about the extreme changes that need to be made to the entire criminal justice system, and was not convinced that body cameras would honestly keep police in check.
I wrote this on my blog @ http://thefreethoughtproject.com/dea-agent-drug-laws-intentionally-rich-communities/
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Not enforcing drug laws - not opposed to that, but id prefer to get rid of those laws.
Change is coming!!! I love hearing about this stuff. More and more need to be less afraid to speak, to tell the truth. And what that guy said was true, "...they know judges, lawyers...". Meaning loopholes in the legal system would be exploited for the gain of criminals all while the pocketbooks of the officers of the courts are getting nice and fat!!
Change is coming!
the pocketbooks of the officers of the courts are getting nice and fat?
Lawyers by extension, are considered officers of the court legally. So when I say officer of the court I also mean lawyers.
Our criminal justice system was designed by and for criminals to some degree.
To be fair, this might not be as nefarious as one might think. Yes, the discrepancy in how they are enforced shows prejudice against lower income demographics. However, the drugs in the lower income areas cause more crime. For whatever economic or socioeconomic reasons drugs in lower income neighborhoods directly correlates to more crime and destruction of the neighborhood. People in rich neighborhoods don't tear up their neighborhoods. Drug use in higher income neighborhoods isn't directly contributing to crime.
Of course we can go into a slew of underlying reasons for the issue. However, as an agency already struggling and failing miserably at their job a choice needs to be made. An attainable choice providing the set of circumstances and their limited ability to change them. A DEA agent arrests some high school kids in a rich neighborhood they just took out some drug dealers. Sure, a good win, dealers off the street. However, taking down that drug gang that's been in a neighborhood has much more of an impact. Crime rates go down. Neighbors feel safer. So they focus on the most bang for their buck.
I dont think a causal relation is shown there. Do drugs lead to crime in any case or does being a criminal lead to you being more likely to access drugs? Could it be that a gang offering you drugs might entice you more to join them if you cant buy these drugs in the corner store(which does however provide one of the if not the most harmful drug out there, alcohol)?
This doesn't surprise me one bit. The police don't want to deal with the rich parent's if the kids get caught, and they certainly don't want to have to deal with good lawyers. On top of that, in the US rich people can basically give as much money as they want to politicians and their campaigns, so some of these rich people have a politician in their pocket who can give the police department shit.
It's the same reason that laws are not enforced as strictly on most college campuses.
That sux...
Rich privilege.
And I'm both money and cash challenged.... D'oh
The problem never was drug usage but the people who can't afford but want them anyway. They are the problem about drugs and so they have good reasons to handle like this.
Why enforce stupid laws where it does not help anybody?
Always the US Government, since ever. Like over in Switzerland, cannabis was banned in 1951 under pressure from the United States of America. One of the main reasons was that US soldiers, stationed in Germany, went in their free time to Switzerland to smoke marijuana.
But the whole change came with the introduction of cotton in the 20th century. Cotton was much cheaper and easier to process than cannabis. Together with the synthetics emerging at that time, it displaced the hemp products from the market.
At the same time, the state in the US created strict laws to ban cannabis. This is called "prohibition." It was directed primarily against the poor, often colourful population, in which marijuana was widespread.
So thanks USA, again I guess...
How can we stop the stand-down orders?
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Do they sell drugs out of there or into there?
Yeah of course, but there are two reasons they don't go after them, one is that those people have lawyers and so will be hard/ expensive to try to convict and the other is that those folks in the suburbs are not having shootouts in the street every day. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, if there are lots of murders in your neighborhood there will be lots of cops there. Should they ignore those neighborhoods with murders caused by drug gangs to go after upper class people for drugs just to be fair?
they should go after those people for the murders...and not go after anyone for the drugs
In most cases they are the same people and the murders are because of the drugs. The reason they buy guns in the first place is to protect their drugs and drug turf. Then murders ensue. The only actual solution is to end prohibition and then all drugs will be sold at stores and not by criminals with guns on street corners. Walgreens and CVS sell billions of dollars worth of opiates across the street from one another and their employees never have shootouts do they?
If the crips and bloods could actually do the same then the block would not be hot. But of course they can't because they are not regulated like Walgreens and CVS. Nothing brings the cops around like a homicide.
I agree its the black market that is causing the crime, and thats why I think we should legalize the drugs and stop arresting people for them
arresting people for drugs because it might lead to murder is very similar to pre-crime
most of these problems are caused by prohibition
I am ok with people getting arrested for directly hurting someone, but not for carrying inanimate objects like drugs or guns
as for the argument that it is harmful to sell an addict drugs...drug users make their own decisions, and no one is responsible for those decisions but themselves, and i say that as drug user lol
If i drop dead from drugs someday its my own fault lol
Not arresting them because it might lead to murder, arresting them for drugs after it has lead to constant murders in certain neighborhoods. It's not precrime after the crimes have been committed. That is called good police work.
If we believe the claim that there are drug dealers in every neighborhood at the same rate, despite that being a false assumption based on rates of usage in various populations, then it would make sense to target the neighborhoods were violent crime is a problem and ignore the ones where it is not.
It's not harmful to sell an addict drugs, it is harmful to sell anyone random unknown, unlabeled, inconsistent and deadly substances intended for human injection.
As a drug user I am sure if you had a choice between buying your drugs at 7-11 or behind it, and the prices were similar, you would buy the labeled, clean and consistent product in the 7-11.
If 7-11 sold you a slim jim and it had botulism in it and you died wouldn't it be their fault to some degree?
Then how is a drug dealer selling you baby laxative and fentanyl and calling it heroin not putting them at fault to some degree when you die?
you do raise some fair points at the end there, in those extreme cases I guess there must be some type of responsibility for their product. But I think we both agree that the ultimate long-term solution is to legalize drugs and bring them onto the legal market instead of throwing more people in cages.
Indeed, we need to free up space for cyber criminals.
Hello friend excellent information thank you for sharing, the change will come soon you do not have to be afraid to say the truths ... happy night
I believe it. The underhandedness and idiocy of the DEA and its existence boggles the mind. The only time I ever really felt "dirty" when I was doing federal government background investigations was when I had to go interview a guy at a DEA field office. That place was more secure than the Homeland Security and FBI offices I'd been to....it even had darkened windows from the outside so no one outside could look in. The entire time I was interviewing the agent, I just kept thinking, "You guys are the worst. There shouldn't even be a DEA. I hate being in your evil office. You shouldn't have a job doing what you do." I was happy to finish the interview and get out of there.
How can we get rid of the DEA and maybe also the IRS?
the drug war isn't about race anymore. It's now about $$$
I agree, if we could follow the money and see where it leads.... Ill bet a dollar that it leads to the CIA.