BRAINSTORMING our PH participation in recent steemit_awards 2020 contest

in #ph4 years ago

INTRODUCTION

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First of all: I would like to wish for all of you to still be a part of our community by the end of 2021. Every year, new members are joining and some older ones are disappearing. Hopefully, this year we will manage to grow without losing anyone from our community.

I also want to THANK YOU all for your supportive nominations towards Project.hope in the "Steemit Awards 2020" challenge.

Hopefully, I can take 10minutes of your time as well today, as I would like to brainstorm some issues with all of you and learn your opinion on the discussed topic.

IMPORTANT DISCUSSION with Adity

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Just today, I had an interesting discussion with @adityajainxds, which I would like to share with you (some of our Project.Hope core team members).

Just a short introduction first: several weeks ago Adity suggested an idea of launching HOPE token on hive-engine. As much as I liked this direction, I've shared my concerns with him.

Those concerns are strictly related to support, which we've been receiving as a community from Xpilar (our current major rival in "Steemit Awards 2020" challenge).

He has been supporting PH since the very beginning, and he was the first one of a very few large "whales" who joined our curation trail. Which allowed Project.hope to spread its wings. So losing his support would hurt, and it's something I never want to do.

So why am I worried?

MY DYLEMA

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I'm concerned that by launching HOPE token on Hive-engine we would look like we're taking sides in conflict between those 2 blockchains. And he potentially could limit his support towards PH in the future.

It's not a secret that Xpilar has been targeted by some HIVErs in the past and currently he doesn't like Hive at all.

I've been worried that creating our own token on HE may affect support received from Xpilar and his community (he is managing a few large accounts, having total over 500k SP).

At the same time, SMTs were not delivered yet and Steem-engine is dead. So Hive-engine may be the only option. And I'm not saying that HOPE tokens will be launched, but I would like to have such an opportunity. I would like to be able to make decisions without feeling much external pressure.

Hope so far I'm making sense?

SUGGESTED SOLUTION

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Please allow me to copy+paste part of my chat with Adity:

I've an idea how to handle Xpilar and reduce risk of him stopping support towards PH (in case if we would decide to launch HOPE token on hive)

Currently, PH is his main competitor for Steemit awards 2020. We've tons of nominations.

I want to pull out in second round from this challenge and officialy give my vote to Xpilar to his community "World of Xpilar" and ask all our members also to support him as a community builder and as a best community

This way he will more unlikely reduce his support towards PH.

At the same time, I'm afraid that if we would win (even second or 3rd place) then we will only attract more hostile attention on hive. And that it would only backfire. Plus STINC is pressuring everyone to post ONLY on Steemit.

So I'm not sure if I would like PH to be one of winners. And if I would decide to pull-out then ... let's do it in a way which would help our allies (xpilar community) and "cement" our current friendship with Xpilar.

SHARE YOUR VIEW

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Naturally, I would like to hear your opinion as well. So please, think about it and share your feedback ASAP (before 5th of January).

DO NOT RESTEEM

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Please do not resteem

Yours,
Piotr

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All I'm saying is... if it were up to Steemit L33td (Tron) project hope would have more support.

But after the first month of steemcurators when project hope was cooking, STINC led by Blocktrades threw a tantrum...

Project Hope on Steem has 1400 more members. Would it be ok if some inactives recieve emails about a Steem only oppurtunity?

Asking for a friend. It has nothing to do with fighting for users. When the time comes Tron Global can onboard plenty. It has more to do with reestablishing connections with those left behind by STINC's actions.

  1. How many "engine-tokens" do you know which are successful in the long-term? Most of them are inflated and their prices begin somewhere with 0.000...
    The issuance of a token should be a well thought out, long-term process. You need attractive use cases and incentives for people to hold, stake or buy it. I think we should examine the few successful examples further.

  2. The current cryptocurrency-bull didn't reach Steem and Hive, they even fell further in last weeks. Maybe you should thoroughly prepare the issuance of a new token, but wait until the bull reaches Hive (and/or Steem) again. (Like in December 2017-January 2018.) In a bull run, I see much more chance to a success. (But the bull may come fast, in some days or weeks.)

  3. What if the bull never comes? In this case, it may be futile to create a new token.

  4. A good example of friendship and collaboration may be a twin-emission on both chains, engines, with an airdrop for all, proportional to their staked Steem/Hive tokens. So, whales receive more...

Hi

I don't agree it's time to create a token for PH. I believe that PH has the potential and needs time to develop more as mentioned above that it relies on a community's power. I have seen a bunch of unsuccessful token on Hive-Steem Engine.

I didn't know the "World of Xpilar" situation for PH. If so, it is sensible to pull out in second round from the challenge and support World of Xpilar community.