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RE: Raw meat eaters debate vegans?!

in #philosophy7 years ago (edited)

"All the meats he described are cured meats when aren't actually raw by definition."

You have a funny definition of "Raw". Beef jerky is dried raw meat.

I think of "raw" as "uncooked", not "undried".

Silly me.

I cheerfully eat raw beef. Raw, as in undried, uncooked, although I do add salt for flavor.

This entire argument is absurd. meat and vegetables can both be spoiled. In many cases, people prefer them to be spoiled. There are those nasty "bury a fish-head on the beach" foods, and there are the fermented (rotted) vegetable foods. Chacun a son gout. Chinese people eat "thousand-year-old-eggs" and "stinky tofu" (yuk).
And then there is Natto.
Basically, fermented protein is highly stinky. Whether that is stinky cheese, cheese with maggots in it, sharkmeat thats been rotted for months, soybeans that have been rotted, fish that have been rotted as fish sauce - its all highly stinky.
Fermented carbs, if you are lucky, just go sour. If unlucky, you are talking aflatoxins. You know those dented cans that can kill you?

The take home is this: bacteria can kill or cure. The difference between probiotic and killer toxin is the toss of a coin. Badly canned tomatoes? Dicing with death, not dicing tomatoes.

This is not an argument between meat and veg, its an argument about which bugs will kill you and which wont. Its a debate on food hygiene, and whether its best to kill all bacteria or to eat "live foods".

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Beef jerky is a meat that is hard dried. All the moisture is taken out of it and can last for several years. You can brine and cure bacon for several years as well in salt and water. Once you want to use it you have to wash of the salt.

Do you really think this guy buys salami, keeps it at room temperature and waits 4 months before eating it? He's likely buying groceries every week like most modern people and isn't eating meat outside it's date.

Can you also tell me what statistic you got the 90% of all meat eaten is cooked and the fact that all restaurants stress the importance of cooked meat. Last time I checked most places offered blue rare that are steakhouses.

I'm on mobile ATM but I can show you how most of the vegetables you eat are not good for your body either (I mentioned it in my last comment)

What I think we have here is an interpretation problem. We have an infinite amount of facts at our disposable to prove both points.