Hive runs well, but only well. It can be great, spectacular even!
There's definitely room for change and improvement. But what what are some of the things you'd want to change that might benefit the blockchain?
I'm also a gamer with heavily vested interests in some of them out there. For a long time, it was SteemMonsters #splinterlands. Nothing has really taken the place of that on chain as of yet, which is why I'm building one I want to play called #NISM. Progress is there, albeit slow, it continues to take shape.
I'm also a gamer and dabble in game development. In my free time I'm tinkering on a card game in Godot and if I ever decide to publish it I want to do it on Hive. So let me start by wishing you the best of luck, bringing a well thought game is definitely one of the more difficult projects you can take on in this space.
However I often have the feeling games and gaming content are always in the shadow of Splinterlands. Hive definitely has what gamers need but the communities their appetite for it is rather low. Do you think there is still enough appeal for gamers? Some of the web3 gamers that I used to be in contact in didn't care for Hive since they thought Hive was only for Splinterlands (which is while fun for many here, not for everyone's appetite) or they tried Splinterlands, hopped onto the next web3 game they saw in their Twitter feed and where never given a reason to return to Hive.
And last, what is your opinion about the 20% APR on HBD?
I'm sorry if I'm asking all the wrong questions here (nothing is meant as criticism) I'm honestly interested and trying to learn more about what each witness (wants to) bring to the table
You kind of covered the things at least my half of this wishes for, a return to the "reasons to stay", and those included a much more rewarding reward system systemically than the current iteration, a lot more platform solidarity, not in opinions, most certainly not, but that this was the place to have some, hard, passionate and tightknit, that place where you fight with everybody, but everybody would fight the outside world together.
And frigging splinterlands. If I see one more piece of spl related game noise in my signal (feed) I'm going to pop. I came for the people who interact, with words, music, art, philosophy, science, stories... humans. Not an xbox lobby. Games are great, I have over 11,000 hours in a game called DayZ and thats not including many others, even web3 card games at times, but ffs, I play them, I dont need endless posts about them overshadowing all the sentient content.
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See what you made me do here? :P
My bad, sorry 😅
I don't mind an XBox lobby thread from time to time. Some friendly rivalry posts can definitely be fun to engage with from time to time
But to be clear, the SPL posts (or the majority that I encounter) do not fall under that category. It's like the same posts over and over again.
Imagine how much more fun our feed would be if all "share your battles" posts where a comment put under a one daily thread everyday?
Overall I feel that comments are highly undervalued on Hive. You can't have a good thread without comments, and when people comment that means that they engage with your content.
Exactly. What you said is exactly what I am talking about.
If I go to a site like say, Medium, to read, I can find all kinds of engaging things to inform, amuse or educate myself with there. But if I load up our "All Topics" feed and I find myself wading through endless game spam for lack of a different label, I quickly lose interest and tune out.
Play the game, that's fine. But just like going to lunch or the bathroom. Everybody does it, nobody cares that other people do it. Unless you are an entertaining let's play streamer who is well... entertaining or extremely interesting to watch for whatever reason such as performance playing or speed runs or something, then who cares that you "just played, here's a screenshot just like everybody's screenshot and the one I posted after the last match".
BORING.
Content engagement is everything here, its what makes this a sticky platform. It's not supposed to just be a coin farm or an arcade, though it can be those too, they wouldn't be much without the communities, content, comraderies and connections made possible by human to human communication.
I like your sentiment on this.
Hmmm. The solution exists.
Check out the @leothreads account. See how every five hours a new "post" is created, then under it, hundreds if not thousands of comments?
On the Inleo frontend, those comments are displayed like tweets. It's called Threads.
Pros and Cons to that.
Tell me what you think. I'm not in charge of SPL or the community. You're concerned about people with common interests sharing similar thoughts on a decentralized platform.
If there were tens of thousands of people posting, you'd never be able to keep up with the content on the main feed, regardless of what's there. Every individual on the planet would discover they're not interested in majority of things, if they didn't already know that, just by looking at that particular feed. Luckily they have other options like communities and the ability to create their own feeds.
I've provided a solution. A forum within a forum removes clutter from the main feed. It's SPL community responsibility to see a problem and solve it. It's their own image at stake. It's commonsense playing the same advertisement constantly only annoys people and turns eyes away. It was being rewarded and people follow the money. Asking them to stay ahead of it and on top of things probably won't go over too well.
Honestly, you've kind of lost me, I'm not really sure what you are saying or driving at.
I was here when tens of thousands of people were posting. And there were no communities, and honestly the platform at large felt more cohesive and invested together in the common outcome of the furtherance of the Hive chain and ecosystem than I see now, and seemed to achieve more momentum as a whole in a lot of ways than it does now comprised as it is of ever more and more niched out silos. I simply believe both are possible.
And neither one have to do a whit with "decentralization" or "centralization", they have to do with shared and globally common purpose, keeping this chain vibrant, alive and thriving. Because people do that. A big collective lot of them that all want the same thing.
And to be honest, its been speculated by others I've seen here that SPL players in the majority, don't really even know this ecosystem exists beneath the game layer they play and came to engage with. That's fine, but if they don't participate in governance by witness selection or operation, and they don't participate in chain support by proposal voting or project creations of their own, and if they don't support the myriads of dapps that aren't games, then the core will rot out from under them... or disintegrate for the rest of us -- and then this place and chain will either be a dead end, or just another copycat card game with nothing else of value left attached to it.
Choose your destiny.
I think the same applies to any topic. Do we really need thousands of individual posts about the same thing when we could all discuss it in the comments of one post?
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That's decentralization, babeeee :) But I do like it when a community comes together in one place to discourse too :)
Everyone definitely has the right to make those posts - whether necessary or not :) It's just that there might be a somewhat more useful / unique post they might make 🤣
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One of the biggest issues is the hive-engine node operation being so sluggish. Not entirely sure how to fix that, but I do know of a few solutions. Another one, is what I alluded to a bit and the community aspect of it all. I'd like to see a more unified Hive and more people that can relate to the 'normies' and noobs up in the top 20 vs nothing but developers that have a hard time communicating. Representing Hive is a privilege and I think all the little voices asking for help are going to get real loud.
Gaming, I sincerely believe what I'm building is going to change Hive. That's all I'll say on that for now.
Believe it or not, and whether I am given credit by any of the larger wallets, I was the one in a conversation that pushed for any kind of interest rate on HBD and made it a thing. I initially said it should reflect the APR on staked HP (roughly 3%) since other chains have a much higher PoS reward system in place and even exchanges now - dwarf that 3% for staked HP. How it got to 20%? I'm still kind of shocked and think that is too high but appealing nonetheless.
Being able to pinpoint problem areas is always the first step (which not everyone is always able to do). And those are indeed some problem areas. I especially like shifting the focus to the "normies". I massively respect the people come here, invest their time and don't power down because they want to do the grind, those I respect the most. When an account like that suddenly goes dark it feels like such a big loss.
The 20% is way too high in my opinion, and this is coming from someone that profited from it. It has about the same APR as someone that actively posts on Hive without having to do the effort or have to deal with the risk from price fluctuation. I definitely understand people that prefer to convert their Hive to HBD since you have to do less effort for approximately the same rewards. It Results in the opposite of what we want, people should be encouraged to engage with the blockchain. I think 3% would hit the sweet spot indeed.
The appealing argument is interesting, and I think it's true for people that are in the Hive ecosystem, but I'm not sure everyone agrees with that. I was in a discord call with some online friends two months ago and we where talking crypto (they aren't on Hive). And I told them that we have a stable coin with a 20% APR, I heard the word "scam" more than once after that. They actually thought it was dodgy rather than appealing. This shows that the perception towards high return promises in crypto has shifted immensely in the post-FTX era.
One call between 3 dudes talking nonsense in their free time is of course not an indicator for a wider audience. But it is that call that started to make me question the 20% APR
I've been in a few conversations that resemble the scam one you just mentioned and there were scratched heads wondering how it was sustainable. Not necessarily scammy, because there are some legitimate chains and tokens that have roughly the same APR. Cosmos (ATOM) has just under a 15% APR on staking (where I do it anyway) and it is vibrant. Can look at others here if you have time and want to see. You'll notice that HIVE and HBD isn't even on that list.
Addressing the 20% question separately here, mostly because I didn't notice it the first time through.
I think it's a tad bit high in general and opted for 15% to at least not get too far out of line from the other witnesses. But I also think having it a little high when interest in the currency and platform have waned so drastically in the last couple years is good for retention and attractive to crypto savvy interested onlookers to become part of our world.
If we were back at the 30K active dailies we had when I was a witness the first time, I'd say lower is better to best support both the community savers but also the health of the ecosystems financial profile.
@enginewitty and I discussed it and decided, for now, 15% on @pollenation, is a good happy medium for the moment.
I think it's more than a tad too high, But you can't just lower it a huge amount from one day to the other of course. I further shared my sentiment in my comment to Enginewitty about the 20%
I saw that conversation. As you can see, we answered separately but sort of the same way. And we didn't even discuss it or see each others replies first. That's why we make a great team! 😄