Yes, you (and the teens) can get 15 years in prison for the activities of your teens. This bill I think is completely ridiculous and will have unintended consequences. Or maybe the consequences are intentional? What is gained by putting parents in prison for 15 years over this? Should it even be a crime if it's between two teens? Do mandatory minimums ever make sense?
Really!? Like can we focus on more important things in the world LOL?
I posted this blog to highlight the viciousness of the legal system. Lawful evil, where good intentions ruin more lives than they protect.
I'm not even sure what positive outcome this law is aiming for. Who are the victims here?
Mandatory minimum of 15 years in prison for CONSPIRACY, not even successfully obtaining photos:
How many teens on the Internet cannot be guilty of conspiracy of this sort? How many teens will even know that this is the law? It's almost as if they take a behavior they know to be extremely popular among teens, and criminalize it as harshly as possible. This law is just evil and serves no purpose besides to criminalize millions of innocent people.
But here is a quote from the congressman:
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They aren't going to enfore it on wide scale now. It's just a way to create more dirt on people. Always handy to have some dirt on people when they start getting restless and threaten the system or when you need to use them and they won't cooperate. And since these stupid kids can't help but using social media, collecting all that dirt is trivial.
I think this is ridiculous. To what extend a parent should be held responsible for a teen's behaviour is highly debatable.
Maybe sometimes there is no victim and no one is responsible? Teenagers will be teenagers.
We need to give teenagers enough space to grow and find their own identities.
Practically the entire government needs to be removed from office at this point.
YESS GOOD JOB.. put everyone in jail 15years.. will the teen get better upbringing/education...innocent parent gets life ruin.. -.-? seriously..
Maybe next time when the billionaire's kid recklessly drives his lambo and crashes. Lockup the billionaire..
The USA has become a prison slave system and needs more and more inmates to feed the privatised companies now running most jails. It is a shock when they come after parents but this is aimed at poor people, not those who can afford a lawyer.
My thoughts exactly daydreams. We have private prisons in my area. These prisons get paid per head/per day. So they have an incentive to fill the prison with more prisoners. The easiest way to do this is the simply create more inventory to send them. Cue.......the war on drugs.
And your last sentence is dead on. This is a direct attack on the poor.
thats true @crewjohn i am now following you
I really hope this is not the case but I haven't the evidence to prove otherwise. You sure know the right words to say to make millions of readers paranoid though.
i dont know how a comment on a thread could ever affect millions of readers - i am simply commenting with facts as understood by those who have watched the growth of the industry with dismay -- the whole article makes me sad and i hope the law never passes - have a great day too Dana
More people in jail means more money in the pockets of politicians who are invested into the private prison industry. I'm not one bit surprised at such a stupid law. We the people need to stand up to these crooks or its only going to continue to get worse
What a bunch of crap!The house overwelmingly supports this OMG!
It's completely absurd. Every day I remind myself that reality is stranger than fiction.
Our age-of-consent laws are whacky enough as is. I swear they're trying for a legal version of loony tunes.
The age of consent laws have always been whacky. They were originally put in place to stop children from working and causing adult-unemployment as well as to, eventually, curve child prostitution.
It was never intended to stop consensual sex, or strip a child of all their rights and put them as complete dependents and essentially property of their parents.
I did not know that.
While I certainly agree that child prostitution is very bad, the laws surrounding it have long since ceased to ammorelate sp? the problem. They seem only to serve to propagate 'progress' towards socialism, and the further destruction of Western culture.
Sadly, killing this Hydra of destruction seems impossible forgoing a mass uprising. Which would ultimately serve their goals of destruction.
I always find it funny when people claim it's a socialist thing, yet they also claim us socialists are too tolerant and accepting and will one day legalize child-adult sex.
Are you not like that or is there an explanation you have if you understand that line of thinking?
Age of consent laws are currently used by the ultra-elite to strike fear and promote their toys and plagues through the use of their media.
They classify any child rape or murder as done by a pedophile, they make it seem like there's a pedophile in every bush (or that they're even the rapists, they aren't), that men are pedophiles and not women (it's really equal), etc.
It's about destroying the strength of the youth and causing them to be more mentally ill and badly developed, thus maintaining the status quo for the elite.
The socialist/Communist perspective is that as long as no one is being hurt it doesn't matter, and typically acknowledging the fundamentals and structure of pedophilia and no longer vilifying it.
You may think I'm crazy when I say this, and rightfully so with how you likely see them, but I'd genuinely trust an average pedophile to care for a child than the average normal person. Most people don't love kids and they do, whether we'd like to admit it or not they do. They just so happen to also think they're a little too cute and too aesthetic.
Western culture sounds like the very thing you're against, and that's exactly what we're against. Age of consent laws were and always were forced by the West onto the rest of the world.
You'll note I used the word destructionist. While the current crop and possibly every previous crop of socialists falls into that group, so do many others. Destructionist are the people that kick over the little brothers sand castle because all they can manage is a poopy castle. They're the people that break things and call it building. They are the barbarians at the gates of Rome, the ones on the inside.
Are socialists the big bad evil? No. You're the useful pawns of these destructionists. Noisy fools.
belated edit: I did not use the phrase destructionist in this comment. That must have been in another comment from last night. My bad.
How the heck can they make that a thing? There is no way a parent can know what a teenager is doing or texting or sexting during a given day. Its not like we can watch them 24/7, nor would we want to.
This is the most idiotic waste of taxpayers dollars, to actually put this forth and vote on it, is insane and ridiculous.
Does this mean that teachers, principals, counselors, and all the other staff (including cafeteria and maintenance staff) will be sent to prison if a student sends them during school hours when staff are responsible for keeping them safe and getting them educated?
It just gets more and more idiotic.
What's next...we get charged for whatever traffic infractions they get when we aren't even in the car with them? No wait...maybe we will get charged with cyber stalking or bullying or for whatever they are surfing the web for if its illegal like porn....
Come on, where the heck did common sense go?
You'll have to literally spy on your children to protect them and yourself from the feds. The law says what it says and treats teenagers as children on the one hand and adults on the other when it's time to dish out the punishment.
I know its just ludicrous, you can't have it both ways, if they are children/teenagers then they aren't adults and vice versa but no one can watch another person 24/7 and this is the most insane law I've heard of in recent years. :(
Somebody needs to give their head a shake and wake up enough to quash this bill. :(
looks like a lot of parents are going into prison Inc.
Waiting for the bill that criminilize masturbation .... -__-
This is none sence Lol. Parents can not be responsable for teens actions.
If the law says so then it becomes enforced and 15 years in prison is enough to make some parents murder their children rather than get arrested for this. The law is senseless but it doesn't matter because a lot of laws are senseless but if enforced it will change parent behavior. Don't give your teenager Internet access and a smart phone.
The state is looking to make criminals cause real crime is on the decline. I hate the government. The government schools can teach kids to put on comdoms talk about anal/oral sex to kindergartens. It can take your kid to get an abortion without parents notice. It can counsel a minor to drug and sexual areas without parental consent.
I have a great teen and love being a parent. But, let's face it, teens aren't exactly known for making awesome decisions at every moment. I certainly wouldn't have wanted my parents to possibly have gone to jail for any immature or poor decision I made in my youth!
Thank you for bringing this to our attention, thats just insane!
what about a bill to give congressman and lawmakers mandatory minimum sentences and also add a stipulation where any legal entity in the United States commits a crime should and cannot self investigate, rather is should should be held by a complete independent civil council (regular people) that aren't tied in conflict of interest! oh! thats right they would never pass a law like that since most of their hands are tainted in utter filth!
Have to make up something to feed the big businesses of the Prison Industrial Complex.