Trying communism wasn't the best phrasing i could have used, but it was more of the factor that no society has quite gotten to that point in where they can explicitly say they've gotten close, like sure Cuba is the closest that a country has gotten to Communism, and yes i've read Marx, i read marx in high school, it was expected of me, to read not just the communist manifesto but all 3 volumes of Kapital. But when i say that Cuba has a variation on a "capitalist" idea eg money, im meaning in the Economical Anthropological sense in that they use a monetary basis of exchange, which at least in the market use of it is a capitalist thing, even though i'd argue that Money is more feudal than it is capitalist. I agree when some Socialists back Socdems but i've seen some pretty horrific examples in the past where Socialists agree with some pretty egregious things that probably woulda been better if they never called themselves Socialist in the first place.
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