I don't follow "western media" much. I know very well that it's very corrupted and biased. But that doesn't mean that everybody who also oppose it are the good guys. On the contrary, some of the bad guys are using this fact to spread their own propaganda.
Actions of Russia and Putin are very clear. It stole Crimea from Ukraine and it's continuing the war in the Eastern Ukraine without giving a shit about peace negotiations. Thousands have died and more than million individuals have had to flee and lose their homes. Russian army shot down a passenger plane and haven't admitted it yet even though the evidence is clear.
Putin is a classic mafioso. Being a head of the state makes him even more dangerous to everybody. Anybody who is even a little bit leaning towards libertarianism should be hating the Russian state and Putin. Some of the so-called "anti-war" people oppose only actions of USA and don't say a word against Russia which makes their integrity very shallow.
p.s.: Just to understand, where you're coming from: Do you also believe the Russian "hacked" the election and Trump is an agent of Putin? ;)
I live in Finland which is a neighbor country of Russia. Maybe that explains something? We actually have a reason to be afraid.
I know Luke and I do not think he is "a good guy, just because he opposes the bad guys". I research on my own and I saw him being a neutral reporter on any topic and being at the core of the news much more, than most other alternative media.
The claims you make against Russia about Ukraine I do keenly disagree Any reporter worth his reputation clearly tells you, how wrong the recent claims against Russia, regarding Ukraine or also Syria are. Well, I live in Germany and I think it's an absolute false fear to think, that Russia will invade(?) your Country these days. I'd ask you to research the downright fascist situation in Ukraine, before pointing fingers at Putin. All in all, I think we have to agree to disagree.
The single thing I can agree with you is, that Putin is a mafioso and a corrupt politician. But that isn't anything big news, and no politician I know of is any better. And I'm well sure it doesn't make him the initiator or warmonger of all the conflicts. As corrupt as he is, he puts up much more diplomatic efforts at eye level, than any other global player. And the russian officials are the ones being far more transparent in any occasions, than our side. There is no way to deny this, unless you agree with "western media".
Best wishes
That is exactly the kind of Putinist bullshit that pisses me off. Yeah, politicians of Ukraine suck like they do everywhere, but at least they don't actively kill people who disagree with them. The narrative of "fascist Ukraine" is pure Putinist propaganda.
If you want to see real evidence what is happening in there, follow groups like Bellingcat. They have done great job by publishing open source intelligence reports that undeniably show how Russia is the aggressor who is attacking while denying everything (which also pisses me off – if you want to attack somewhere, fine, but at least don't lie about it).
Especially Bellingcat's reports on MH17 are very well done.
Sry, I don't get my info from putinist propaganda.
I told you already, we have to agree to disagree. I'll look into bellingcat for the sake of being open about new info, but I made up my mind about Russian actions and especially Ukraine years ago. It will be quite hard to convince me otherwise.
I am also vary of making statement about the MH17 incident. Let's see what Bellingcat has to say about it, because it is *intriguing *, that you are so sure about this.
The language you use indicates that you do.
Don't you think it's a problem if you can't change your mind even when you see evidence that shows you haven't been right?
Here is the direct link to the report from last year: MH17 – The Open Source Investigation, Two Years Later
I did not use any language, that indicates that. This is a bold and unbackable claim. The only thing you criticized is me saying "fascism", while referring to the Ukraine issue. Not only, that I come to that conclusion, without Putin telling me that through his Ex-KGB agents, you were already admitting their fascism (and omitting any other points I made) and dismissing this with the notion, that they at least do not kill people (which they did). There was no other "language" that indicates, that I am being brainwashed by Russian propaganda, it's a baseless claim.
And please read again the part about making up my mind. I made up my mind about Russian actions. it will be >quite hard< to convince me otherwise. meaning there must be some great evidence shown.
thanks for the link, I already found the article.
Btw.: Whatever I find about Russia and Ukraine, or Georgia or killed dissidents, it is ridiculous to paint a picture of a Russian threat to Finland or any other country. That's a far bigger red flag pointing towards warmongering and propaganda, than anything I said, ever.