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RE: Russian Collaborators Series #1 - Hyundai

in #politics6 years ago (edited)

Propaganda or not, the consequences are real. The sanctions are hurting Russia and a lot of other countries, too. And nevermind that there are confirmed criminals governing some other countries, who never get hit with sanctions. Ever. The UN, unfortunately, is a mere pawn.

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The interesting thing about sanctions. They have NEVER worked. The sanctions are not hurting the Russian economy and the West knows this. Every day that oil stays above $50 a barrel is a good day for the Russian economy. Every day that a European uses natural gas is a good day for the Russian economy. Russia's economy is experiencing "real" growth and not the inflated numbers used by Western governments to hide true inflation and debt in national vote buying schemes (free stuff from the government).

If the UN were legitimate, we wouldn't have NATO and Israeli planes bombing Syria.

Very true. I think the countries who are getting hurt the most are the ones that were already in crisis... and used to deal a lot with to Russia. Like Greece, for instance. They were already in bad shape. The sanctions have made it even worse.

It's like the EU is shooting itself on the foot just to please a far away country on the other side of the Ocean.

And the irony of it is... when Portugal needed help to control the forest fires, the EU said it couldn't help. They had no resources, no money, no people... But the Russians had no problems helping us.

So, we got more help from the country we were sanctioning... than from the group of countries that forced us to join the sanctions. If that's not ridiculous, I don't know what is.

You are right on so many fronts. Victims of sanctions and Russia's counter sanctions are certainly EU member states. Greece tops the list, but also Poland's meat and cheese industry. Greece got more debt restructuring as a reward for signing on to sanctions (and the threat of no debt restructuring if they didn't). The Polish leadership is delusional and will eventually collapse their sovereignty and become just another beggar to Germany like so many other EU countries.

Wow! I didn't know that about Poland. I was there in 2008 and they seemed to be on the right track.

The more reliance people put on the government, the more power over there own lives they give up. The problem with so many places, Poland included, is that they think government is the solution to problems. In some respects, this is very true. However, when you start sending all that power far from your hometown, the people getting the power and money don't really give a shit about your small town. To make matters worse, Poland goes deeper in debt and pisses in everybody's Cheerios (Germany's, Russia's, Ukraine's, etc.).