what is the reason behind the 10% beneficiary charges on the proofofbrain frontend? are you satisfied with this?
This is something have thought about too of recent,I noticed that thier are beneficiary on every rewards I get too,but to me I did not see it as a bad thing, cause I want to believe this is part of the way of giving back to the community too.
So to me am sincerely fine by with it too,apart from the fact that we have to stake whatever we earn just as I am doing,the 10% beneficiary fee too is not bad at all boss.
Aside that don't know maybe see my suggestion as regards what I dropped as topic too.
Have a blessed day boss
The 10% is for community and development. I am satisfied with this.
OK, nice.
Then I have a few questions for you (and everyone else on this tribe):
Hey @onealfa, long time no speak.
It has to be in the tens of thousands now. It would also be good to calculate the generated POB from @proofofbrainio votes since the 10% beneficiaries have been powered up to the account to then help spread the token distribution (successfully? well we both know that spreading tokens within the DPoS model is hugely flawed, so defining success is highly subjective). POB started with 1 token at the very beginning and due to the flawed nature of the DPoS model, the @proofofbrainio account has always been running a losing race in terms of "completely authentic token distribution while utilising the PoB/DPoS mechanics". I'd say they've done a good job overall, even if the task was a losing battle to begin with.
link)There were funds transferrred for the ecency POB front-end development (@leprechaun can provide some accuracy on this, or we can check: https://he.dtools.dev/@pob-fund?symbol=POB for transaction & memo details from the @pob-fund account). If we look at this in a more abstract view, the 10% beneficiary has been used for community development, just not in the sense that technical development has been the main focus. There was a back and forth between POB and the community on Discord (not an ideal method of communication, but it's still written for all to see) where he stated that @proofofbrainio and @pob-fund aren't used for personal gain. (Link to my comment in this thread with screenshots:
It was for a while, then it was reverted back (mentioned in the above comment thread screenshots) so that the @proofofbrainio account could retain its stakesize for assistance with token distribution, as well as tackling abuse (you know better than most how important it is to have a sizeable token stake in this game).
link to the post hereTo fund development, it was initially created back in April when @madstacks came up with the idea (including pob-fund friday), . For a long time, the community was sending funds to @pob-fund via beneficiaries (not sure if it's still happening). With 18K POB generated, I'd say it was pretty successful. It's nice to know that all those POB's were backed by the community in a definite manner. Hopefully these tokens can be used to fund the upcoming upgrades to the platform. Little bit of Proof Of Brain to fuel the Proof Of Brain.
Hope this helps.
Yes, this was voted and the ecency like proofofbrain site is here. It turns out Ecency has closed source components, which cannot be accessed and instead need to be recreated. It also uses services which are not part of the project. @good-karma the creator of ecency has given me permission to use the ecency image servers so people can use images in their posts. A search backend relay server has been written and added by myself to enable searches. Ecency must have something like it for things to work. It has a fully featured Hive Wallet and POB wallet builtin.
Our private API parts related to Pointing system is semi-closed but everything else should work just fine. If you guys need guide on some component that's essential and missing from codebase, do let us know 😉 New update coming out with Engine wallet support, so expect more ease integrations.
Come to think of it. You might say the private-api source code is rather missing...
The 10% beneficiary to proofofbrainio private account is not right for a decentralized system like this and that's one of the reason why am afraid to invest largely in pob. How would some people keep buying pob and creating content and earn pob through Curation and a private account would receive 10% of all.
So that means he will own over 2.1 million pob out of the total supply without doing anything.
Am not against the 10% beneficiary but am not satisfied with it sent to proofofbrainio account My suggestion is that people would misunderstand this so this 10% benefiary should not be for private account. If I invest $20,000 in pob so proofofbrainio would own $2,000. Let the 10% beneficiary be sent to another account @pob-fund.
This is one of the biggest question of the moment,but have gone through what @calcumam and others too gives as an update on this discussion,but honestly I still felt like something is still hiding on this.
I stand to be corrected as am open for learning,aside that don't know maybe I can say that here boss,but let me quickly say that I noticed an unvote on my comments and post from you.
Just want to be sure it is from you or system error.
That's real. The dead are walking.
I'd have to say others here have answered and I would like to see Brainio come up with an answer in a post that isn't be downvoted.
The reason is that there is no difference between proofofbrain account and pob-fund because both of them does not have privacy and every transaction can be monitored
Huh, I don't know. That is a very good question. I will start digging in to it next week.
Not satisfied with the 10% beneficiary because he it's not enough to maintain proofofbrain community.
It should be increased to increase pob scarcity and more funds
That is an interesting point. I don't pay the electric bill around here but I would really like to see some remodeling.
if it is for the development of the community it should be allocated to another account not a personal account.
we have pob-fund and we are planning on decentralised token fund so this is enough.
if it will be for the development i think the beneficiary should be changed to pob-fund. or what do you think
I think that these beneficiary should be used for community development. I think we are all in the same boat and would like to see the beneficiary money spent on POB. I'm not sure but it seems like that requires some consensus.
If you say so then there's no reason to worry, Community development is a necessity.
How do you know this ?
Do you have any proofs it goes this way ???
Have been wondering too,even though me as a person thinks is part of what it is been used to run the maintenance of the community in my own view.
But I stand to be corrected and enlightened on what the 10% is been used for and I wish @mineopoly too can come out to help with prove on that base on his comment
Glad to see @onealfa.pob too here.
Best regards sir.
Indeed. Where is the transparency?
It would be nice to see some regular updates about the development or even better; a road map (or is there a road map I missed?)
One roadmap was published, but due to IRL stuff and lack of communications I haven't written another one. I am due to write another one now that POBio discussed his plans with the new 2.0 outpost for our frontend.
I have included a link to our first roadmap below:
VAST Proof of Brain
Thanks for sharing. What is your role in this community actually. I see your name popping up everywhere in discussions, the Discord and now again the first roadmap. Why do you make a road map if you are not the owner.
Or is @proofofbrainio your alter ego?
My role is that I'm a community member. I curate and check articles for abuse. I started out volunteering. I volunteered to do the first roadmap. Project Management is part of my education.
I'm not proofofbrain, but I like this place. I don't know that there are official community roles here.
Regular?
Sounds rather pathetic, when we can get tribe leader (?) to show up only once every five month. 🙂
True....
With this response I'm wondering why you keep investing in this token.
You must still believe in the token which also means you believe in the community, or am I wrong about that?
But this is a whole other discussion 🙂
How ppl say about politicians and banksters ? (and no, I am not one of them)
Look what they DO, not what they SAY.
Yes, I still believe in this tribe. As much as I believe that my patience can be far bigger then any of my rivals.
I'm hodler. And I'm ready to HODL (and accumulate) POB as long as it takes.
2, 3, 5 years. 8-9 years, if it takes. 10, 15+ years.
I can be even silenced (muted) on this centralized tribe.
But nobody has force to take away my tokens. NOBODY.
Technically, yes, you could be muted like any of us. Realistically, your voting/posting/comments will never get you to that point. The community will rally against it. It's happened before.
If you are muted, I will leave the POB. And will gather a community to attack people who mute you, but yeah that will never happen
Why do you do believe so much in pob that you are willing to hold 489 10 and 15 years.
Is there something you know about pob that I don't know?
And this is the problem I have with the community admin proofofbrainio himself.
He is not well socialized and he doesn't respond to anything going on here to know his mind.
No matter the kind of development the 10% beneficiary is used for, it's we don't go to proofofbrain personal account but to another developing account because he also used his personal to curate which is not supposed to be so but the 10% pob must be stored
here shortly after it occurred, but below are the Discord screenshots:I documented the public Discord conversation (which was in the #general channel of the POB discord server)
There is no problem with the 10% beneficiary and I even support increase of the beneficiary but the problem is that it's going to proofofbrain account and he use it to upvote content. It's should not be so.
Although for the first time I saw it and I was how come about the 10%,also one thought came up to me that is it the 10% wil be remove for the very day reward or will be remove for the whole reward of pob in total?
If any of us can share more light on that I think it wl go a long way.to be is Also awesome and am good to go with that so far is for the betterment and progress of the community.
did you drop a topic?
Yes I did,you can check yesterday engagement again boss
when suggesting topic add #topic for recognition. thanks