I've had a vague idea in my head for 2 months now that doesn't leave me alone.
I'm thinking about a subscription service around Hive Power Ventures.
Main idea is simple.
You set up a recurring payment in HBD to a designated account (created for this purpose) and you get a few things:
- 1 - 1 Private Mentoring. (1 session per payment; 45', not cumulative).
Definition of medium and long-term objectives, portfolio balancing, Tax tools and tips(Spain).
Of course I'm not doing any of this on your behalf, I'm just providing and teaching about the tools.
Basically I put my experience at your disposal for 45' .
- @empo.voter upvotes (~750K controlled HP)**.
Since the beginning @empo.voter acted like a proxy curator for other curation trails on Hive. But why not using it to slightly "emPWR" (project) holders? However, a few strict rules would be required. Like a manual and "ongoing" review in order to avoid abuse.
Price
I'm not sure yet, but I had in mind a figure around $10-20/month to get started.
10$ is too low, but
- to start with I would like to see if there would really be a demand for this.
- English is not my native language, so It would be a way to practice for me and compensate for an initially "clunky" conversation.
In addition:
If this gains some traction and I see that there is a group of interested people (say 10-20), I will increase the price permanently for new subscriptions (but it will be maintained for those already signed up).
I am also thinking about offering discounts to PWR holders. Let's say 50% off for holding something like 1000-5000 PWR . Dunno, you get the point.
Initially, 100% of revenue would go into @vventures ( Although I reserve the right to change this if the volume is high and starts to occupy a relevant part of my time).
Feedback? Would you be interested in this service? Yes? No? What would you change?
Honest feedback will be compensated with empo.voter upvotes :)
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I feel like going fully this wouldn't be great. To put it in perspective, imagine if leo would only vote for people posting through their front-end or only those who pay the premium subscription it may alienate others while increasing their own earnings (beneficiaries/premium), it'd be a bit of a race to the bottom for users as we saw with some other shadier projects that would 99% of the time only vote authors who'd give them beneficiaries which isn't fair to the authors to take a lower cut than the default.
There needs to be some room to also use the vp to attract others who may get interested in the project I suppose, to use hive as a "marketing tool". Another example; we've started voting hivegaming community posts with @zingtoken lately as well as we're getting closer to the game being released to attract new players and that's something that could scale further eventually without becoming aggressive.
Anyway, curation and anti-abuse are important but I'd say some spare voting power put to use for other things would also be good and not focusing too much on how much they hold compared to the actual content/activity/effort of the authors as that wouldn't be in line with general curation. If it's votes with l2 mainly it'd be another thing and people could do as they want but when a majority of rewards come from hive I think it's best to proceed with caution so things don't get out of hand and paint the activity negatively.
100% agree with what you said in the first paragraph (and the second, and third btw).
In no case did I propose that this was a substitute. Maybe 10-20% of total VP would be enough. I'm very happy with the way empo.voter's VP is distributed (+400 posts/week) and that's not going to change. In fact, empo.voter proxies ocdb (along with other accounts).
In no case I would also like this to be a derivative of vote-selling. That's why I put emphasis on the manual part.
Have a good day acid, and yes. Saw the latest updates with Holo and I really like them. Do you believe you'll launch before end of Q4 or that's too optimistic?
Ah yeah sounds good then, on the other points I didn't see an issue!
it depends on a few things, funding probably being part of it and if we want to launch with only few parts of the game being 3D ready or use placeholders for them which wouldn't look great. Since we'd like to focus on quality and the artwork and style looking nice it might be that it might get delayed until we have more creatures 3d'd along with the environment and the healers (latter being the most expensive part)
the other thing would be how long balancing takes in the upcoming alpha, we want creatures to be different from one another but still not branch out too much to force people to always look for the same ones and use them in PvP while at the same time making sure no healer class is too overpowered or underpowered either for the same reasons. All while making the game fun to play in PvE for casual players but challenging and still fun for PvP'ers focusing on stat increases. :D It's a lot and I guess most games wouldn't consider themselves in alpha with all the additions we've put in place already but better good off the gates than sloppy and boring! Hopefully q1 for a beta release where everyone starts from scratch and progression along with playing & collecting rewards begins!
PS. I'd love to see projects in general spend more voting power on comments as well compared to posts!
Wanna trade a free subscription to my OF for a pwr subscription?
Serious note, it's a good idea. Maybe a private discord too for members?
I don't think it is a horrible idea, but it might put you on the radar for people who aren't a fan of vote buying. While it is sort of indirect and there are other groups doing similar things, I'd hate to see PWR or the holders get unfairly targeted.
That's one of my biggest concerns for sure.
I'm also thinking that what I'm offering it's too cheap, and Hive overall maybe isn't the best place for this kind of service.
Dunno, probably won't do it but I wanted to see if there was interest.
Thanks bozz.
Yeah, I just don't think people have that kind of money to play with here. I mean, there are likely a few, but right now I have maybe $500 in ETH to play with (if you decided to do something on that chain), so is it really worth it?
Yes, too many people here fighting for breadcrumbs, probably would only pay 10 HBD just to try and expect gettin the full 10 HBD and more back in upvotes
I believe ETH is a good holding right now vs BTC btw
I've been thinking for a while I wish I would have been DCA'ing into ETH over the past three years.
Generally, promising vote is a bad idea.
We have tried this on hive on many projects many times, and it never works well.
If someone wants to pay you for your expertise, and services that is great and totally cool. I like that. However, never promise anything in return other than your service.
Also never give your service for free.
The more I think about the way I worded the post, the worse the deal seems to me to be honest.
Dunno, it's strange how an idea can live in your head for weeks or months, you can one day sit down in front of a sheet of paper, let go of what's going through your head. You read it the next day and think “what a piece of shit”.
Best case scenario with this model is doing 3-4 hours of calls on weekends for 200$ or so (burning out my little free time, which should use for proper resting btw).
Thanks for this words. You have made me think about it and realised I was probably selling myself too cheap.
Have a good week sir
This is a common thought process. Most freelancers work for too cheap. It’s a common problem. What is worse, the moment you start giving your services for cheap the consumer begins to feel, you are cheap because you provide a service that is lower quality than the other person who service is expensive. There starts the death spiral!
Moral of the story. Always offer a competitive price for your services and never offer a free service.
Reeading this reminded me of something that happened here a few weeks ago, basically these guys we called to come clean the AC's of the house said it would cost a certain amount. Since it seemed quite like a low amount we went ahead and rounded it up to give them a tip which they were grateful for.
The funny thing is after a few more months we call the same guys again and either they remembered us or had just happened to increase the price, they quoted us for the amount we had rounded it up to when being generous last time.
Guess no tip needed anymore. :D
@empoderat we have arrived at that point with respect to DHF proposal again! Please help!
Sorry, just came back home.
I See that the proposal is above now the threshold, Ill keep the vote on the return proposal for now.
Yes, it worked out. Thanks for the help from the community.
I'm in.
I like the part of discounts for PWR holders. It will encourage people not to sell their rewards and this will allow the protocol to use the Hive that would have been wasted maintaining the peg to curate and create more Hive for the project.
Everything that encourages people not to sell their PWR gives the protocol the ability to print Hive at a faster pace.
Thanks sir.
I've never heard of anyone offering this kind of service here on Hive, so it feels unique to me, but it's certainly viable. A good reason for its potential success is the upvote support you're offering as a "bonus" or like a "cashback reward."
I'd like to see this approach applied to other types of services or crafts too, e.g., coding, artwork, writing, or other skills.
After all, Hive is "SocialFi" - a mix of social and finance - and what you're offering could help create a circular economy here.
Thank you for this valuable feedback :)