Ok, this is a quote from one of Pauls letters. But what did the Messiah himself say about who he came to save?
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Ok, this is a quote from one of Pauls letters. But what did the Messiah himself say about who he came to save?
Are you saying what Paul said contradicts what the Messiah said?
11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12That seeing they may see, and NOT perceive; and hearing they may hear, and NOT understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them."---Mark 4:10
These words, and the books of Moses and the prophets, suggest that we should be careful with what we think Paul's letters are saying. There's even a warning in the bible about misinterpreting Paul's letters.
Yes you should be very careful. Because given your understanding, the gospel is reduced to anything but good news. They say context is king. Jesus didn't want to have a Damascus road experience when he was walking the earth. That's why he spoke in parables and only drew a few people to himself. But he himself said that once he's lifted up, he will draw all people to himself. John 12:32. But not all who are drawn are going to accept his invitation. This is completely in line with what Paul said about God wanting everyone to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth. You didn't answer my question. Are you saying Jesus contradicts Paul?
I'm sorry, I thought I did answer. Yes, the Messiah and Paul appear to contradict each other several times in his letters.
Also, it's STILL good news, but from a different perspective then the mainstream claims. He said He must be lifted up as the serpent was in the Wilderness. And the people He will draw to Himself are all of those that are His. Also the invitation to the world is to be "grafted in" to the Bride. Did you respond to my question about The Day of The Lord? that helps to shift perspective.
We can't have contradictions. If you think the scriptures are self-contradictory then you should look for a new religion. I don't think cherry picking from the Bible is the right way of going about seeking the truth.
Cherry picking would be ignoring the rest of the bible in favor of Paul's letters, which the bible itself warns against.
It's not just Paul. Everyone else in the New Testament is preaching the same thing. Your problem is not with Paul. Your problem is with the New Testament.
I still await your description on what happens during The Day of the Lord.
We'll find out in the future. I'm not really obsessed with prophecies and the future. You shouldn't be either especially if you don't believe God wants to save everyone. You could as well be one of those He doesn't wanna save so why bother trying to figure out what the Bible says... If God doesn't want you to understand then you won't, given your worldview unless you think you're smarter than God. This is really the logic behind your worldview. I see no point discussing things further because logically it is pointless.