Agree fully with all Fabian has said. I know the entire story on both sides here, and frankly much of the stuff floating around is flat out not true about mark and his situation.
I can also say that a large majority of the stuff on the internet about his situation is flat-out opinion and mischaracterization of statements. I have personal visual proof and knowledge of his operations previous and present the communication that happened.
I'm not even going to address the majority of the stuff that is completely false on dimartino's articles, but let's just say at least 80% of it is 100% false and 20% of it is subjective to how you see things in a situation.
Everyday millions or billions of people out there try to start a business or invest in something to better themselves. Sometimes they're successful and sometimes they're not. Sometimes business start-ups rely on other people's Investments and rely on other people to build their business and sometimes they are successful and sometimes they fail. When they fail do they deserve to be mobbed for life?
Mark knows that he didn't handle all of this situation the best that he could have in previous times. There's other decisions you could have made after looking back in hindsight, and there's some things you could have done better. He knows that. And we all know that too.
I'd like to think he's learned from those lessons and is applying those lessons with his new Ventures going forward.
Just like how we learned lessons with bitshares, the failures in the problems we had with the platform, the challenges that we went through and are now applying all of the knowledge we've learned to what we're doing now here and in other grapheme based ventures.
Right now people are calling what he's doing here a scam. I'd invite you to tell me exactly why it's a scam. He is not ask for any money from anybody at all. He's providing a service to the community by educating people about what can be possible on this platform and pushing new members here.
As of right now he's not selling any information made publicly available on the Forum and last time I checked this interview with Fabian was not publicly available until Mark made it.
In addition if he wants to sell a training course for a website or how to do something on a website he has every right to do that. People do that on everything from Reddit to Wordpress to everything else and none of you scream scam.
People will pay for convenience. I know that might be a New Concept for some of you but I have to tell you that even though there might be public information available on how to code a certain language or paint a picture, people still pay for art classes and for tutoring.
If Mark wants to put together a really good product that concisely explains everything and shows people how to use this platform and brings people a greater level of knowledge ana quality to it, then more power to him.
In fact I chose to work with him on this project because I know what I'm putting into it and I know what he's putting into it in terms of effort and intention for education and bringing people to this platform.
The reason why you don't scream scam to them and you do to him is because you have a personal problem with him and it's very obvious. I understand why you may not like him and you don't have to personally like him but you can't pretend like your bias isn't 100% obvious.
Most of you don't know that Mark spent lots of his time and money promoting the bitshares platform and trying to find potential investors to help with progress in development.
If you want to put that in perspective the work he's trying to do to bring investors and to help people is what would be paying salaries for a lot of people that are commenting and talking s*** on this thread right now.
He was literally working to try to find money to help pay you development salaries while you were all saying horrible things about him in a forum somewhere else. And he never mentioned that fact to you.
This is mob mentality here.
If you want to discuss academically this so called scam attempt let's go ahead and do that, if you just going to continue to base statements on opinion and just say things arbitrarily without knowledge, then it's obvious you have other motives than to help people.
Pm me on slack or rocket. Any of you. I will answer any question I can about Marks operation on this project and I'll even answer questions about any knowledge I have of his previous and former projects.
I'm willing to discuss things rationally. If you are, feel free to join me.
Why not? He has done pretty good job with his articles. If he has lied, @marklyford or you shouldn't have any problems proving him wrong.
Instead of explaining what is false in Demartino's articles, @marklyford has been attacking him personally and trying to discredit him. I think that pretty much proves that Demartino is on the right track. @marklyford is acting like a typical scammer.
You do realize point-blank that dimartino is personally attacking and trying to discredit him and now you're sitting here trying to blame Mark for something that's similar and pointing it out as being bad even though dimartino's doing the same thing. He's just doing it under the auspices of quote-unquote Journalism.
Kind of like it's okay to be prejudiced as long as it's in the name of religion.
No, I don't. Please explain. Demartino's articles are full of proofs, unlike Lyford's answers. I don't see anything that would implicate that Demartino has some kind of personal vendetta against Lyford. He is just showing the facts – and those facts tell that Lyford is clearly a scammer.
So far you and Lyford have been claiming that Demartino is lying, but you haven't pointed out a single thing that he is lying about. You have now made several comments to bash Demartino but you have only used rhetorics to discredit him and not revealed any proof that he is lying.
That is a typical behavior from a scammer so I'm now assuming that you are also a scammer.
Actually, Demartino is doing the exact same. What attacks tdo you refer to? The fact that demartino was publicy tied to a few scams himself, his reporting was found biased and paid off from previous places as reported in several discussions, he brings up marks arrest for marijuana cultivation, which honestly has nothing to do with the article than other to....OMG...ATTACK HIM AD HOMINEM with that and other things he fabricated to fit with his use about questioning Marks judgement. Yet when Mark questions the Ian's judegement about repeated drunk driving offenses, it is a "person attack" and "how dare" Mark?
DO you even understand the hypocrisy you are spouting? You are now guilty of the same thing you are trying to accuse him of.
I do not think Mark is an angel. He will be the first person to tell you I have been a very strong critic of some of his decisions. Likely I will still at times. But I also know the truth of matters, and who the person is as a person.
I find Demartino's articles really well written. @marklyford is the one who has been using ad hominem attacks instead of reason and facts.
They have been addressed several times by Mark.
Again, feel free to ask me specific questions if you have one.
He has in fact several times lied. But trying to reason with idiots or people that have an agenda is basically impossible. No matter what you do or say they're just going to twist it and turn it and do whatever they're going to do with it because it doesn't fit their narrative. That's why. But I already made the offer to discuss this with you in private and to tell you all sorts of information if you have any questions.
Have you even tried? Just state the facts and let everybody see the truth.
This is highly suspicious. Usually when people don't want to discuss in public, they have something to hide.
Steem is actually great platform for this kind of discussion because nobody can delete anything. If somebody lies, it's recorded permanently in the blockchain.
Yes, I am trying now with no avail.
Lol suspicious. Keep coming up with excuses to not address the actual matter and keep spreading FUD. Private shouldn't be a problem, and you can "report back" your findings.
Hi Michael,
and yet Mark Lyford & Banx Capital was a complete scam & given that Banx Capital is alive with ML as director & secretary the scam is ongoing, even though ML declared that "he had closed it down", he didn't close anything down,
look at the share issue,6.000.000 shares at (for easy reckoning) $1 per share, ML then doubles the share quantity to 12.000.000 yet keeps the share value the same, how does the value of a company double in value overnight without doing anything?, ML not being satisfied with this increased the share issue 10 fold to 120.000.000 without reducing the share value, so overnight the company is claimed to be worth $120.000.000, how is that legal or possible, it is total misrepresentation to anyone purchasing shares,
what about the fake profit statements?, I had 30k in Banx, ML issued me with online statements showing me that I had made a monthly profit of 10% until my share ownership was valued at 51k, completely bogus profit declaration, in writing too, Lyford has never issued any accounts, they will be overdue at companies house very soon, he won't & can't post any accounts so like most of Lyfords other entities, Banx Capital Ltd will be forcibly struck off,
so Lyford pretended to close things down, possibly,just possibly he turned off the website for a while, he added the word "now" so "Banxnow"& then turned it back on,that is the sum total of Lyford closing Banx down, so where did all the money go? somewhere between 750k & 1m pounds vanished, the investors haven't been repaid, the ones that fell for round 2 of the scam accepted Entrepreneur Action "tokens" (why not be real & call them shares?) as replacement value for the share value they held in Banx, once again Lyford trots out the usual "this business will work because I am passionate about it, I'll work all night long ..ad nauseum ", so what has actually happened to EA?, has it been the unparalleled success that Lyford claimed so that all investors would be repaid?, not quite, it hasn't actually kicked off yet, Lyford has his monthly clock counting down to zero hrs at the end of the month when it will all spring into life, unfortunately the clock is on round 5 of counting down, I hope that ML makes a ton of cash from Steem so that he can repay all of his investors but I do not believe for one second that he will repay, whatever he does he does it for himself,
I am only scratching the surface here, the fraud goes on & on, and Michael, I am being rational so willing to discuss sensibly, I have tried talking to ML but he refuses to answer the most basic of questions & he gets verbally abusive & combative in a heartbeat, I understand the mentality, he cannot answer the questions so frustration sets in & he loses control, perhaps you can answer the questions Michael, you were on (are still on) the team sheet for Banx, you're also on the team sheet for EA, ML has blocked me in all mediums my only open avenue is legal,yet like any scammer he claims to "not have anything" this is not true of course, the legal entity for EA "entrepreneur International Ltd" has the same person as director & secretary, that person is Lyfords brother, Carl Holyland ( yes different name, Mark Lyford was Mark Holyland).....it is odd that Lyford has nothing to do with the baby that was going to resolve all of the Banx investors problems, sorry to be banging on here, I have uncovered enough for a book!, cheers Phil Winfield
and that's my real name BTW, contact info freely given to legitimate folks
How do you know so much?
He's God
Actually, Jesus:
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