Even though, yes taxation is theft, I agree, there is more positive systems in place that the extortion money is used for here then in USA.
I read your comment fully. You are arguing that Norway uses the money it steals at gunpoint for "better" things than the US. Sure, maybe they are, that's debatable. What is not debatable, is the stealing of the money in the first place. Your profile says you are an anarchist, but your argument here in favor of Norway's govornment programs says you are not.
Definition of Anarchism~Wikipedia
Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions. These are often described as stateless societies, although several authors have defined them more specifically as institutions based on non-hierarchical or free associations. Anarchism holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful.
you want a LONG rant? sure. But before I do, I wil point out that you are agrument for ignorance. and I didnt explain every detail in my reasoning as it was besides hte point i was making.. But fine you seem to not be content with anything but EVERYTHING.
Yes i know what an anarchist is and no i did not at any point in that comment claim that taxation is moral or right. If you DID read (somehting your comments clearly to me shows you did not, and if you did clearly did not udnerstand it) you wil find that I wrote " I agree, taxation is theft" There is the teaspoon for you.
Further more i do not adhear to gouvernment being lawfull or moral at all, i did not at all declare anything that should be seen as meaning that i did. Since any gouvernment is as the word actually means, Mind control. And any gouverning entity is in effect a ruler or archon.
My point was, AND I REPEAT, that there is positive sides and negative sides to all situations. The totallity of hte sociatal situation is, yes (take a note here, so you dont forget), YES i agree that its a imoral and as i did also write "mafia oranisation" that we live udner in all socalled civilized nation. Meaning, again, that i in no way considder it right to steal money from others in order to "be a good ruler and give some of it back"
If you are still not sure of my position. then go watch all of Larken Rose's material knowing that i agree with 90% of it (I havent watched 100% of it so cant say 100%).
Back to the point. Even though (asuming you now know my position) things are far from optimal, there is liht in the darkness that one myst not ignore. And to cast aside everything jus because msot is bad is to betray yourself by trashing what can be usefull. Whould you trash 1000 oranges just because 400 of them was rotten? Do you trash your gasolene car because it exist electric once?
I am also aware teht because we ahve it easyer, one might argue, in norway - results in yes less inovation because its adversity that creates true potesials in people, but it is also a more peacefull country as there isnt that insane level of police brutality as there is in USA.
But in terms of longter sustainability, No socalled civilised country is working. So focus on what is hte overall issue, not what this or that country is doin that is worse or better then what "my country" is doing.
Socialism, patriotism, "democracy", "laws", all have theyre issues, bashing 1 of them does nothing.
Sorry for what typoos there likely is. You content now? mr @choosefreedom ?
I had to laugh...because you said: "My point was, AND I REPEAT, that there is positive sides and negative sides to ALL situations."
However, prior to that, you said, "there is NOTHING POSITIVE gained from replying without actually reading reading"
There may be some some more wrangling you have to do with some inconsistencies within your own mind. Thanks for the interaction.
I see can Jostein's point of view. While I agree wholly with anarchy and voluntaryism at heart, it is logical to conclude that given today's collective level of consciousness, we are not mature enough spiritually for it, as a whole. Those of us in this thread are but realize we are a tiny, tiny minority. Too many people still, have low or no morality and would take the opportunity to be aggressors, seeing no force other than their own conscience stopping them. Freedom is the answer, but the question remains, how do we get from here to there? These awful governments have paved the path, and we are slowly crawling out of the muck.
There is a significant percentage of the population that are psychopaths (~3%), and our rulers are highly weighted by them. There is another far vaster portion of H. sapiens that are born slaves.
At least a third of people want nothing more than Norway offers: a particular role to fill in exchange for 128 hours off a week.
The rest of us are scattered into every other possible political stance. Those of us that are here are outnumbered by all the rest, and the largest group, H. domesticus, drives society.
This is why revolutions fail, and why evolution will succeed. The eventuation of libertarian, agorist mechanisms of wealth distribution, which we can see in cryptocurrencies, potentiates free peoples commerce, outside of the control imposed by psychopaths enslaving willing servants.
The old game in town can be left behind, to those that find they are fulfilled by it, while the rest of us do everything else, at our sole options.
Much beter articulation that my response! Well said.