My First Politically Incorrect Thought

[doodlebear]

They call it "Public Viewing": Masses of Germans gathering to watch a football match.

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[lifenbeauty]

interesting article with pros and cons of immigration.Today, @vieira published an

The conclusion was that some immigration is beneficial for everybody, while mass immigration often represents a problem.

I added in a comment that the level of problem caused by mass immigration depends on the cultural difference between the immigrants and the natives.

I'm also liberal and tolerant, but prejudices shouldn't be confused with statistical facts. You would be a bad person (in my opinion) if you said that someone must be bad/uneducated/impolite/etc. if he is Turkish/Arab/Muslim/German. But I'm 100% sure that statistical analysis would show that ethnic Germans are on average more educated than an average immigrant in Germany, and there is no need for you to be ashamed of thinking something that's obviously a fact.

"Anatolia? Nope, Germany." :D

Cheers!

[lifenbeauty]

I agree with you, but the problem is in defining "can't behave". You can behave in an extremely annoying way for everybody around you without committing any crime.

[lifenbeauty]

The thing is - you can't make honking less loud without making loud honking illegal.

And with the billion annoying examples such as permanent honking in the traffic, yelling around the markets, backward social attitudes, low personal hygiene, and similar staff often (but not always) found in certain groups, you realize that you can't really make regulations on all that, and even if you did, the police officers would simply lack the time to control and sanction all of those widely spread minor "offenses".

Which leads us (or at least me) to a conclusion that immigration should be very selective in the first place, as it's almost impossible to throw out the annoying but not quite criminal people later.

[lifenbeauty]

Great points. I think that the reasons behind the bottom line problems you described are:

• The politicians don't care much about doing anything that is long-term (and social cohesion is something that requires a lot of time to create notable positive effects) as they are judged and (re)elected in short-term cycles.
• The people who have the money or public influence don't care about this much, as "it's not their problem" and they will get no money back from getting involved in it.

[thedeceiver]

Welcome to the dark side.

[yaanivapeji]

You need to be a politician, so that this can all change or else nothing will change with the present crop of politicians Germany has.

[levitation]

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